03 Jan 2014 17:29:03
hey guys hope you had a good new years, sorry to read about your grandad killahvirus, just got back yesterday and read on twitter someone was saying that we will be all charged when we go to a+e?now I know there is a large proportion of society that are not interested in what's happening around the world but I can not see this proposal getting passed as it affects everyone and I can see mass demonstrations/riots all over the country.
It's been happening in Ireland for quite a while now Franky. €100 FOR A&E. €500 for a fire engine call out. Getting more and more like the USA every day. If you're not loaded you're f*%$ed.
Ryan.
What the F*£k there is no way I will ever pay for health care, I already pay national insurance, and that is still charged a much to high a rate. I will be the first person protesting on the streets if they ever try to charge me for a visit to A&E. If this happens I see this being the end of the british establishment. As franky said, the majority of people don't care but we will not let them destroy OUR NHS.
I have a hell of respect for the Irish who have been fighting the establishment in one way or another for years but I though you guys would have fought this , I really think if they try to force this on us it will kick off and once this does I hope the Irish brothers and sister's join us, remember the more they take from us the more they want!
Rather than debate these issues fully, they are usually introduced as part of a govt. budget, and seen as a fait accompli. We have a version of the NHS called the HSE, which employs 100,000 people and costs €14m per year to run, but nearly 2m people still have expensive insurance policies to gain treatment in the same hospitals mainly out of fear. The perception on Ireland is that if you're not insured, you will get second class treatment.
The wealthy can skip the queue to gain quicker access to consultants and treatment. Consultants who have mega contracts with the HSE (200k+) are playing both sides of the system, and openly freelance in the private sector earning vast amounts on top of their obscene salaries. They are arrogant untouchable scum, who the government is afraid of taking on.
Don't ever allow the NHS to be taken away. It is flawed, but it is a million times better than the Irish or US version. Countries like Sweden have apparently great systems, but they pay higher taxes for the service. Also the French model which is much lauded is in deep debt and needs overhauling. The NHS is the least bad option and I hope you fight tooth and nail to keep it.
Ryan.
Just want to correct a typo on my post above. The HSE costs 14 billion not 14 million to run each year. Thanks.
Ryan.
Well mate if the people allow this to happen without a almighty fight like the bedroom tax then we all deserve to get shafted, I WILL BE PROTESTING AND MORE IF IT COMES TO IT.
My reading of it is that it only applied to "migrants" or "visitors" to the U. K. Which begs the question, what happens if one of these visitors has an E. H. I. C. card? This statement, " The card holder will have access to state-offered healthcare in Switzerland and all European Economic Area (EEA)", (from the. gov website), contradicts what they're saying?