03 Jun 2014 14:25:33
I've seen written on this site before that some members believe that all politicians are only in office because the illuminati or shadow government or builderberg allow them to be so. Please tell me I misread that and that you don't seriously believe that every single elected politician is a member of the illuminati or chosen by them?
Jg
{Ed033's Note - Do you have a timestamp of when this was submitted on this site, or are you exaggerating a previous post or making this up off the top of your head?
The timestamp of your post is: 03 Jun 2014 14:25:33
Oh shut up you deluded frat ****! Everything comes back to some sort of crackpot conspiracy with you people - is it not beyond comprehension that bad acts are carried out by bad people because they want to carry them out?
{Ed033's Note - Above post from Jg, the original poster. I guess you made your original post up off the top of your head after all.
Ed you and that franky bloke talk so much s***!
{Ed033's Note - Above post from Jg, the original poster.
Jg, nobody is forcing you to visit this site and look at any of the info are they?
Jg, I have a feeling you just like stirring sh*t. I can't speak for others (try it, its liberating) but my view is that the system was put in place a long time ago to condition people into believing that they have freedom in almost all aspect of life. Media reinforces the beliefs that the education system first teaches us.
In short, politicians almost in all cases wholeheartedly believe that they have control, when really they just go ahead with decisions that have been put in place to make it seem they are doing what's right (certainly not always). They are puppets of the system while believing they pull the strings.
I'll elaborate when time permits.
Melbourne CFC
I believe 90% of politicians go in to the job for the right reasons the other 10% are groomed to serve there master.
I am currently reading a book dealing with something similar, although much more widely-believed - the control of popes by outside agencies. Cannot remember the title off the top of my head but by a Spanish author.
Geordiesteve
Thats how I see it too franky, some are primed, influenced or blackmailed (those near the top) but most at least get into politics for the right reasons.
Jg you have issues - do you run into churches shouting "god doesn't exist"?
Your posts show a clear lack of understanding on your behalf and is no reflection on the good people who use this site properly.
Harold
Jg I see on skynews david cameron talking about politics I turn over, when I hear on bcc radio obama chat about the war on terror I put music on, and when I read about benefit cheats and immigration on mainstream newspapers I turn the page and read about football, I would recommend you to do one of the three feller.
OK, I apologise for my outbursts, they were wrong and I'm sorry (doubt we'll ever hear Blair say that!) But does this mean that, in your opinion, that one of the 90% of people who go into politics for the right reasons will never get into the higher positions, such as PM? as this would surely upset the grooming master franky?
JG
And Ed, Franky just about supported my original post (apart from the swear words, for which I yet again apologise for) by basically saying that all politicians who hold the real power are groomed - you wouldn't groom a back bench opposition or insignificant Lib Dem member would you?
JG
{Ed033's Note - No, your original post said "all politicians", which is 100% of politicians. Franky did not anywhere near support your original post of 100% of politicians.
But Franky, surely that's just trying to turn a bind eye to the world you live in - how is that going to help! If you're that concerned, then why not run for council or even parliament?
JG
TROLL
Why not run for council or even parliament?
the same reason I will not play for liverpool or be a male model or a rock star.
i would not get chosen. (flame thread alert)
04 Jun 2014 18:09:05
But Franky I though you were the Liverpool version of Beckham.
Sorry babushka but I can't really reply on the main topic.
Kim Philby
Nah never that handsome kim.
If one of the 90% get into a position of power then they can be easily bribed or even threatened into doing whatever's next on the agenda. JG do you feel like a free man?
RM8
Franky you are a rock star. jg I live in a close community and we have a home grown mep. I agree some are destined to rise to the top ie. groomed, picked cultured even. but the chap in our village is a proper home grown guy who really cares about his constituency and his voter's. not in the 10% of grooming.
05 Jun 2014 10:05:13
Tbh I believe the illuminati is a load of s***, it's pretty damn stupid imo, I also laugh when everyone goe mental when a singer pulls an illuminati sign am everyone I like 'illuminati' as the singer artist is obviously just stirring things.
Don't take this as a dig I do believe that there is a secret government but the illuminati idea is silly
Aron
Aron,
I would think it depends what precisely you mean by the term 'illuminati' because its a loose term used by different people in slightly different ways. I certainly don't believe that there is a definable club called the 'illuminati' to me it refers loosely to a power structure that governs the politics, media etc in our countries. This structure includes secret societies, think tanks and pressure groups, big businesses using lobbying/funding to influence political parties and so on. Some of this activity is there for all to see whilst other elements are a lot more covert, perhaps even blackmail/threats at the highest level. When you say you believe in a secret government, I would suggest that many agree with you. Things are taken too simplistically IMO with regards phrases like illuminati/nwo which are just buzz words loosely used to describe very intricate structures of power. In terms of the celebs etc. I agree that they are clueless to all this and are used as puppets. When they make signs etc. IMO its either because they have been told to do or to just stir up attention like you said. I do, however, believe that they are used by TPTB to push certain agendas such a the sexualisation of young people.
Harold
{Ed033's Note - Here's the way I see the bigger picture at the moment, There are 2 elite groups.
Group 1's agenda is to reduce the population to 500 million human slaves (who spend their time as slaves on the coastlines) and have a small elite class who own everything and live on a pristine Earth where the interior of most countries has been returned to nature (This is Group 1's Agenda 21. The agenda for the 21st century).
The other group (Group 2) may appear to be human but do not think as humans (they maybe clones or possessed by 'Walk-ins' or Archons). This group wants to eradicate all humans and turn the Earth into a radioactive wasteland with some type of artificial life forms only, being on Earth. (This is Group 2's Agenda 21. The agenda for the 21st century).
So both groups appear to be acting as 1 group at the moment in the lowering of the population except if you're in Group 1, things like:
1. the use of depleted uranium weapons (which they said they would never use as they would turn the Earth into a radioactive wasteland)
2. Huge radiation leaking from the 4 damaged Fukushima nuclear plants (potentially will turn the Earth into a radioactive wasteland)
3. the gulf oil crisis
4. fracking,
4. chemtrailling/some of the geo-engineering stuff that ruins the Earth
doesn't make much sense to you as this goes against Group 1's Agenda 21.
So, it's Group 2's Agenda 21 that's being implemented and everyone in Group 1 will be taken out with everyone else.
A very small part of the evidence is:
In the NASA war document. Deborah Tavares interview on the Nasa War Document (War against humanity)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4J7NLlloN0
Dane Wiggington presentation on Geo-Engineering
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x8BVyodH0Y
Fracking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEB_Wwe-uBM
JG
Are you a plant? did someone send you here?
Its a conspiracy.
This all leads back to the elite bloodlines imo and the question has to be asked are they as david icke claimed not human?
Thanks for reminding me Franky, I meant to say the bloodlines are at the heart of the hidden 'power structure' that I referred to above. Being somewhat of a novice I know very little about the origins of those bloodlines being anything but human though. That is a subject I need to look into in more detail.
Very interesting theory Ed033, thanks for sharing the links.
Harold
{Ed033's Note - It's actually inescapable that there is an agenda to turn the Earth into a radioactive wasteland because on top of what I said above, it's obvious that one group wants to start WW3, which we have always been told is a no win worldwide nuclear war that would turn the Earth into a radioactive wasteland.