17 Jul 2014 16:51:55
Malaysia Airlines MH17 en route to Kuala Lumpur from Amsterdam has just crashed in the Ukraine. 295 people aboard.
Ryan.
Looks like it was shot down by a surface to air missile. Everyone is denying responsibility.
Ryan.
{Ed033's Note - Maybe they'll blame it on ISIS, Syria or Putin
Not great on geography, is that a standard route to its destination?
Apparently it is, someone retweeted a guy took a pic of that plane and joked this is our plane in case it goes missing.
17 Jul 2014 18:02:42
Anyone want to say that now we know what happened to the one that disappeared.
Kim Philby
Same make and model as the missing plane!
17 Jul 2014 18:15:48
To expand, that plane was supposedly cruising at 30000 feet. Your not going to get near it with a portable hand held Sam like a stinger or other such. We're talking proper military ground based radar controlled anti aircraft or a fighter.
But it seems someone desperately wants to provoke things. So steal a plane operated by the same airline. Wait several months. Crash it and frame one side. Wait for tension to crank up.
Ok I could be wrong on the second part. But this whole thing stinks.
Kim Philby
No doubt kim, people have been massacred to be used in a political chess match.
And seperatists have apparantly taken the black box. Interesting.
You inevitably have to ask who will benefit from this? The US has the most to gain.
Ryan.
Malaysian airliner all over the news verry little about the 4 children killed by israel in air attack
This is a bit creepy.
Flight MH17, a Boeing 777, first flew on 7-17-97 and crashed 17 years later, on 7-17-14.
Ryan.
Hey guys, malaysian here.
just to share, the plane that went missing was mh370.
this is a different plane, mh17. same model maybe, but different plane.
This was written in April. shortly after MH370 disappeared.
http://bollyn.com/14671/
The timing of the shooting down of MH17 co-incided with Israel escalating it's bombardment of the Gaza Strip, I commented to a friend that while the world wonders what happened to MH17, Israel would push out the Palestinians. Ten minutes later, they announced a full scale ground invasion.
The White House is now on lockdown and the planet is plunged into further crisis. Just what 'they' want.
Khakipillowslip
Khaki I tweeted this 11 hours ago "call me skeptical but a plane gets shot down by a unknown as israel go in and do a Nazi extermination in Gaza #divertattention
plus thousands of militiamen go in to Tripoli, this is to much of a coincidence for all these things to happen within hours of each other.
Passports and flight documents have been retrieved fully intact, just like some passports found in the aftermath of 9/11. Does this mean that they are all a 'plant' and this is actually a pre planned tragedy? It's amazing this is being linked with the isreal/gaza atrocities
AP
I am no way a expert on this but I would assume that its possible for passports and bits of paper to be found as there was a visible wreckage of the plane and sadly bodies, 9/11 a different argument, the planes or missiles melted in to the twin towers.
18 Jul 2014 12:46:16
Its bad that we're now going to be blamed for something we haven't done.
Kim Philby
Very interesting info in that link Khaki.
And yes Franky, Israel's offensive in Gaza has conveniently been pushed off the headline news by MH17, which may or may not be a coincidence. But knowing how propaganda savvy they are, I doubt it.
Ryan.
Whatever information emerges about MH17 will likely provide fodder for speculation. Late Thursday, RT.com reported that MH17 was following almost the exact route that Russia’s President Vladimir Putin’s jet had traveled shortly before the crash, according to Interfax news agency reports.
RT.com quoted an unnamed source who reportedly told Interfax, "I can say that Putin’s plane and the Malaysian Boeing intersected at the same point and the same echelon. That was close to Warsaw on 330-m echelon at the height of 10,100 meters. The presidential jet was there at 16:21 Moscow time and the Malaysian aircraft - 15:44 Moscow time. The contours of the aircrafts are similar, linear dimensions are also very similar, as for the coloring, at a quite remote distance they are almost identical.
Reading between lines the 'unnamed source' wants you to think someone (Ukrainian) tried to take Putin out. But if Putin's plane never flew over Ukraine yesterday?
Ryan.
Sorry- but if the Malaysia plane was shot down at 15:44, would Putin / Russia, allow his plane to fly the same course at 16:21? I highly doubt it. that's what the are saying in that statement. Mike
Sorry Mike but when I hear the words "an unnamed source " I usually translate that as the reporter, journalist or someone controlling either or, has made this up. let's just say my B. S. alarm goes off.
This is horrific and I hope we find the true cause of this, gut feeling is that the West has done Russia up like a kipper but who knows.
Just a quick mention being a Newcastle fan the response from Sunderland has been fantastic as well as other clubs in the region goes to show there is good in the world
Jonty