16 Sep 2014 15:21:21
closer to the Scottish independence vote, I am 50/50 on this, if it is like George Galloway suggests that breaking up the union is going to harm the lower classes then I am against it but if its good for the Scottish people and it harms the establishment then I am for it, like I said I am 50/50 and I am unsure about salmond, what do you guys think.?

 
16 Sep 2014 21:39:01
Badly thought out, the working class will lose out, but Salmon and co line their pockets. How does signing up to the euro, which will be the price of admission, give them independence? How does wanting to keep using the bank of england give them independence? How do they explain the massive shortfall in nhs spending?

 
I think this doesn't belong on a conspiracy page

 
I'm voting no Franky. I don't think we have the resources to go it alone. The oil spoken of is not ours, there's no central banking system. Currency's up in the air. Taxes will hike especially on imports. Nuclear weapons do we really want to hand them over to someone else because there not ours to decommission, Retired military men getting screwed out of pensions unless they move South. Salmond doesn't have the answers there's been no transparency from the SNP but I was anti Salmond & SNP beforehand. On top of all that as screwed as our country's are & no matter how anti establishment & Royals I am I'm still proud to be British.

 
Frankie I'm 100% yes. IMO yes will win by 2% on Friday. I believe Scotland Will grown into one of the world's richest country's in the world.

Regardless I think this is a wake up call for Westminster as Scotland Wales & north of Watford are going to want more power for the rest of the UK or what's left of it.

Salmond, wasn't his biggest fan however I trust him more than the rest. my family have funded and supported Labour since before I was born (26 years ago) however I don't think Labour will ever be the same in scotland as they have stood shoulder to shoulder with the torries etc.

Also don't read too much into then icm or any other poll, every poll that's been in the MSN have been based on max 1, 500 people. Only poll that matters will be on the 19th September.

Lenny

 
Franky, I'm Scottish and bricking it that the vote doesn't go thru!
My aunt and little brother were going to vote No as they were worried about Northern England and what would happen to them, yet they've changed and are voting Yes as Scotland's vote counts for nothing in the grand scheme of things.
I was away on holiday last week and read English red tops for a few days, spoke to a few members of the "Union" from most of the countries and we are thought of as uneducated fools! The whole my sons sixteen and wants a motorbike, you know its a bad idea but sometimes your just aswell letting them maim themselves to learn a lesson haha. Come on Scotland's a developed country and it's about time we're able to run our own affairs.

Sorry if its a ramble, English was never my strong point.

Stuart nic

A Scotsman worried that he ain't going to get what his country needs.

 
Im 100% yes guys, and this whole debate is filled with conspiracy theories from a bias BBC to using the official secrets act to hide the Crone report, to massaging the figures to suit whichever side your on.

Time will bring in all out

{Ed007's Note - Good man, Vambo. It's been a very loud YES all along from me.}

 
17 Sep 2014 00:05:32
I had to laugh at the guy ranting about nationalizing everything and creating a socialist paradise. I grew up in one, its not all its cracked up to be.

Kim Philby

 
I read somewhere that if Scotland do get there independance they would become the 11th richest country in the world.
Not to shabby to be fair.

 
Stuart Nic

Don't worry about us in the North pal as we will get screwed either way, Salmond is a git however he is your git and not some pretend Scotsman who has lived most of their life in the south of England.

Good Luck!

Jonty

 
Vote yes, give them independence it will be one more passport for me and England can leave the European union as there is no longer a uk of Great Britain and Northern ireland. and i'm a cockney red called O'Neill with a Scottish grandmother and I only care about London and Manchester

 
Sorry I do think this topic deserves to be on the conspiracy site, because either Westminster or snp are lying like I said in my post I am 50/50 because until recently I have not took to much notice, I do understand the no voters but you do realize it is a propaganda scare tactic that prices will hike up and you will lose jobs etc and look at the msm on this, all of them are bringing so called experts in telling the scottish public the only bad things, never the positives.

i will be honest if this was a vote now for the north west of england to go alone, I would vote yes because this system we have now is and has never worked, it has has only worked for the wealthy Westminster corporations.

{Ed001's Note - so the scare tactics would surely be a conspiracy then franky?}

 
Everything that Cameron, milliband and clegg etc are saying to the scots about how much worse off they will be is exactly what they will be telling the english when it comes to a referendum on Europe. quite simply if a politician tells you don't do it you will be worse off what he really means is don't do it I'll be worse off. they are terrified if Scotland vote yes then the english will want a vote on Europe

 
Damn straight we want a vote on Europe :-)
My ol dad is a Scotsman born in Scotland but lived in England near 50 years, will he be classed as a foreigner lol.

 
Yes edd scare tactics are a propaganda tool to for the undecided voters to vote no, and this subject definitely belongs on this page.

 
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