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Discussion #5960Talk Sense

29 Dec 2019 21:22:37
NASA Documents state they assume Earth is flat and non rotating.

Southern Monkey
30 Dec 2019 11:39:54
If you were anywhere on a flat earth, and its was sunny. Would it not be sunny everywhere on that flat earth?
{Ed033's Note - Maybe looking at these series of videos might help you comprehend:

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Southern Monkey
30 Dec 2019 17:21:38
Cheers, Ed. Knew you'd have a, albeit mind-bending, plausible explanation up your sleeve.
{Ed033's Note - You could install The Flat Earth Sun, Moon & Zodiac Clock app on your Mobile Phone (costs $3)
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Southern Monkey
31 Dec 2019 10:12:50
So, hypothetically speaking. If the flat earth dome system existed. Pretty much everything we have been told is fake.
Is everything outside the dome real? or a projection onto said dome? .
Gravity or the effect of the force we know as gravity, would become very complex to explain with what would become defunct main stream science.

I have spent a very, very long time outside in the cold, looking at, and collecting digital camera data from such named objects as M51, horsehead nebulae etc etc. I'm going to be pretty pissed if it turns out I was taking an image, of an image. haha :)
{Ed033's Note - How do you have a vacuum (the alleged vacuum of outer space) directly next to our atmosphere / atmospheric pressure? unless one of them is inside a container.

Try creating a vacuum anywhere on the surface of Earth. Can't be done unless you have the vacuum in a container. Then try recreating a pocket of atmosphere / atmospheric pressure inside that vacuum without it also being in its own container.

Also, If you take a Nikon P900 camera and zoom into any 'star' in 'outer space' (luminary is a better word for star), this is the type of thing you see:

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Southern Monkey
31 Dec 2019 12:19:10
The vacuum argument has me perplexed, Ed. The main stream answer would be gravity does it. Yet this doesn't make sense as gravity is weak and the force of which is easily counteracted by ourselves by the mere act of picking something up. If the same said object was the seal of a vacuum that was fixed point. The force used to break the vacuum would be exponentially greater than, that of gravity. So, by that very thought experiment, the system is flawed. And as you suggest, the atmosphere would be instantly ripped away.

I have seen the light show that is what we know as stars. And yeah its puzzling, but I have always put this down to atmospheric conditions being turbulent. That's the narrative we are taught anyway. Having looked at the moon a lot, you see whatever this effect is, very clearly. Almost like watching something through crystal clear waters. Having dabbled in the world of parachuting/ paragliding I have been trained to think of air acting the same way as water. So this effect of the moon and stars has up until now, always made sense.
{Ed033's Note - I wonder whether the atomic/nuclear blast tests in the upper atmosphere is them trying to blow a hole in / crack the 'Dome' above us.
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Southern Monkey
31 Dec 2019 14:11:18
They would probably think it was a good idea and be stupid enough to try. Has there been any recent updates on what HAARP is up to?

My yt searches just bring up the opposite of what I'm trying to find these days. Is there anyway of searching yt without using their search algorithms? a back door so to speak.
{Ed033's Note - HAARP, i don't know, but they probably bounce frequencies off the Dome.

I don't know of any alternative Youtube search.
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Discussion #5959Talk Sense

26 Dec 2019 16:56:02
If the Earth is approx. 4 times larger than the Moon, shouldn't the Earth look 4 times larger from the Moon than looking at the Moon from Earth?

Below: NASA Apollo 11 Earth photo from the Moon.

Shouldn't the Earth look 4 times larger in the below photo, if what we're being told is all correct?

Apollo Earth shot

 

Southern Monkey
26 Dec 2019 22:31:09
For the moon to be that big in a photo you would have to use a telephoto lens zoomed into a distant horizon. Do you know what lens was used, Ed? . I would think it was probably a lot smaller lens. If you used the apollo equipment to take a photo of the moon it would look at lot smaller than the earth in the above image.

But this is by no way me saying that the photo isn't fake.
{Ed033's Note - I'm thinking that if i stand on Earth and look at the moon with my eyes, the moon is a known size to me. Therefore if i am standing on the moon and look at the Earth, the Earth should look 4 times bigger to me than when looking at the Moon from Earth.
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Southern Monkey
27 Dec 2019 07:44:11
I agree with that. The problem is you would need to be standing on the moon to see that, from that point of view (your own eyes) .

I was trying to get the point that, for instance, If I look at the moon with my yes and think i'll take a nice picture of that, then use a cameraphone let's say, to take a pic. Then moon appears a lot smaller than what i expected it too, when I looked at it using my eyes.

Hope you follow me, Ed?

You statement question is valid, but you would need to compare photos using exactly the same equipment. Or we can start a crowd funding page to get you too the moon? :)

I will see if I can find out the Apollo camera specs and take a picture of moon using same specs then we can compare.

Just a quick follow up. As far as I can tell it was taken by the 70mm Hasselblad.

lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/frame/?AS11-44-6552.

Sadly I have left my camera charger at home and won't be back until the new year. So can not take a 70mm comparable pic just yet. Not that I expect to see the moon anytime soon with this weather we're getting, anyhow.

For the time being here is a photo of the moon someone that is not me has taken at 70mm. It shows the point I am trying to make quite well.

{Ed033's Note - Another point is that if you're an Apollo astronaut on the moon, aren't you at some point going to look at the Earth and isn't the Earth going to look pretty big in the sky (4 times larger than the moon looks from Earth). Aren't you going to comment on the Earth? Where are all the commentaries, videos and photos of the Earth from the Moon?
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Southern Monkey
27 Dec 2019 13:54:33
If you were there, the sight would be incredibly overwhelming and yes, you would expect there to be some more references to the amazement of seeing what would probably appear like a super earth. Even so much as speechless moments. But there isn't, that I am aware of.

The only footage I can recall offhand where you can see the earthrise from lunar orbit was some VT on what were these lunar flashes that 2 astronauts describe. On more than one occasion they saw flashes coming from the same lunar location. The footage doesn't show what they see, just voices and lunar landscape which then shows an earthrise. All would be easy to fake if you had the resources.

You could make a case for only a few "apollo" photos of the moon because the cameras were fixed POV apart from one? I believe, which was manual. And what with limited time, they were trained just to get their job done. But to counter argue. They had time to play golf and test Newtons theory of falling objects, but not to film the earth?

The big question is, why have we never been back?
{Ed033's Note - It is interesting that the Chinese recently went to the 'Dark Side' of the Moon, but didn't show us any video of the Earth on the way to the Moon that i'm aware of.

In the below documentary between the 36 minute - 40 minute mark, you see the Apollo 11 Astronauts faking the video of the Earth when they are allegedly half way to the Moon.

A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon:

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Southern Monkey
27 Dec 2019 16:31:50
Great footage, Ed. Thanks. I think I just heard hsf's head explode ;)
{Ed033's Note - Ok thanks
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Rian
27 Dec 2019 20:04:59
Doesn’t the moon appear different in size depending on how close it is to the horizon? Could that happen in reverse?

Of course if any of us were on a flight to the moon I expect we would be taking endless shots of the earth both from the space craft and from the lunar surface. But the lack of pictures makes scrutiny of their one that much harder because there’s nothing to compare it to. Unlike the lunar footage photos which seemed to have the same background despite being allegedly taken in different places on different days.
{Ed033's Note - The Moon does appear slightly different in size depending on position.
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Discussion #5958Talk Sense

26 Dec 2019 11:59:34
Richard D. Hall gives his conclusion of what he thinks about the Rendlesham Forest Incident based on statement analysis from Peter Hyatt on the statements of 3 incident witnesses and a co author of a book about it. Parts 1-4 are long and have conclusions at the end.
PART 5 OF 5 - Rendlesham UFO, 40 Years of Lies.

 

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Discussion #5957Talk Sense

23 Dec 2019 13:30:31
Mudfossils - the heart of the matter: Part 1 of 2.

 

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Discussion #5956Talk Sense

22 Dec 2019 23:49:53
There are no forests on earth!

 

Southern Monkey
26 Dec 2019 10:42:51
Never really delved to these depths of the rabbit hole without the pre-programmed mindset shutting down any unbiased thoughts, before.
Very compelling, Ed. Thanks for sharing.
{Ed033's Note - ok thanks.
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Discussion #5955Talk Sense

21 Dec 2019 21:31:38
UNVEILING A TITAN: PART 1 of 5 - Conclusive Proof Titans Existed.

 

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Discussion #5954Talk Sense

20 Dec 2019 11:42:19
Max Igan video: Australia - Wake Up Or Else.

 

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Discussion #5953Talk Sense

16 Dec 2019 20:05:58
David 'Avocado' Wolfe talks about Flat Earth.

 

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Discussion #5952Talk Sense

13 Dec 2019 13:16:36
THE-CORPUS-JURIS and the Magna Carta.

 

Southern Monkey
15 Dec 2019 00:42:48
There was some old YT videos of a Canadian women/ legal case, where she bought her house using her birth certificate (bond) . She documented it over several months. Using notices to keep people from entering the property etc. She eventually got the house. Lawfully. Can't find anything about it any more.
{Ed033's Note - yt have changed the search algorithm to remove stuff they don't want you knowing about from appearing in search results. The same with other popular search engines. Duck Duck Go search engine apparently doesn't alter search results.
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Rian
21 Dec 2019 14:37:29
If you ever find that video I hope you'll post it here SM.
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Southern Monkey
26 Dec 2019 10:35:29
I am trying to fight the algorithms, Rian. No luck yet. Hoping its on an old hard drive in a friends attic. Watch this space.

I did stumble across yourstrawman.com which has a lot of info on this subject for those that don't know.

Wishing the Ed's and everyone else, all the best for the new year! Thanks for all the research.
{Ed033's Note - Happy New Year.
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Discussion #5950Talk Sense

11 Dec 2019 13:30:37
Are all large rockets balloons?

 

hsf
16 Dec 2019 16:36:08
No, no they are not.
I went to watch the launch of the Atlantis from the Kennedy Space Centre in Florida. I've also seen them assembling the rockets during a tour of the facility a week later.

Also, that video doesn't even look like a balloon. It looks like it's thin sheet metal collapsing under its own weight.

Additionally, the uploader is a flat earther, enough said.
{Ed033's Note - No hsf, most of the large rockets are balloons. Video from a non flat earther.

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hsf
16 Dec 2019 18:59:48
It's still not a balloon. The rocket had something called "balloon tanks" which keep it structurally sound. The tanks failed and the rocket collapsed in on its self.

It's not a balloon.
{Ed033's Note - This site is too advanced for you.
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Discussion #5949Talk Sense

11 Dec 2019 13:23:38
Latest video from Richplanet TV (image from richplanet.net).

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