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Discussion #12004Talk Sense

17 Nov 2015 20:21:03
Truck bomb outside football stadium. Forgive me for thinking that lt could almost certainly have been intercepted long before arrival at destination also forgive for thinking the device might not have been primed.
German and interpol security is a lot more airtight than that.
Paris could have been prevented, this latest was a scaremongering exercise.

 

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Discussion #9325Talk Sense

17 Nov 2015 10:20:34
i have a horrible gut feeling the way the russians have broadcasted to the media that it was a terrorist attack that brought their plane that they had something to do with it.

it was definitely not the west who done it, they don't want russia anywhere near syria plus I can't see it being a isis type military group because they are already up against assad and putin airforce, this plane getting bombed can only mean one thing, a step up by the russians to step up its campaign and now have the excuse to be legitmately being there now.

 

{Ed002's Note - This is simply not the case. There have been arrests.}
Rian
17 Nov 2015 12:01:22
More likely Mossad pulling the strings on this imo Franky.
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MrJonesy
17 Nov 2015 12:57:28
In my not so professional opinion it always seemed to me when a government or some sort of organisation declared a terrorist or some kind of false flag attack. It was reported immediately in the msm with some underlying agenda. I just don't feel the same about this one, the Russians again in my opinion would just go in without needing a pretext and it took a while for them to break the news. But again you never know, anybody can be up to anything.
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frankyscouser
17 Nov 2015 14:54:38
it really makes no sense for isis or whoever to get russia involved,
the west do not want russia anywhere near syria so you can rule them out, isis now want to get bombed from everyone?

who really gains from that plane getting bombed? before it went down msm were hot on putin backing a so called dictator, threatening many things against russia. anyone who thinks how could a government use an incident like that to justify military action should google the gulf of tonkin incident, as for arrests made, the guilford 4 and LHO to name a few proves its not that hard to frame people.
{Ed033's Note - Good points, franky
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Telemicus
17 Nov 2015 20:51:15
ISIS are rebelling against the nations bombing Syria. Russia are one such nation. Its also why the US have been threatened next.
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Discussion #10872Talk Sense

17 Nov 2015 08:57:36
Just come across this site and it's great to see all the opinions.

The thing I don't understand about it all is how do we expect to kill/stop IS. Fundamentally it is just an idea therefore how can it be quashed?

The media coverage is awful, i. e. asking someone how they feel in one word or `look the dog understands the sadness`. Surely the most important thing is getting the facts out there and people making there own opinions and not force fed drivel.

Just come across the term false flag, and in my naive ways I would like to think that the powers that be wouldn't use this for there ulterior motives but who knows. Personally I'd like to think that the `passport` is just an easy way of saying we know who is to blame rather than using it to lay blame at someone else's door.

 

frankyscouser
17 Nov 2015 10:04:58
how do you stop them?
find out who funds them
take them alive instead of killing them
stop the bombing of the middle east that will create even more sympathises.
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Discussion #11815Talk Sense

15 Nov 2015 23:56:14
Ed, what are your general thoughts on this Paris attack?

A ploy for boots on the ground?

Thanks.

 

{Ed033's Note - This was another false flag. What may have happened is that some people who were part of ISIS were helped by an intelligence agency to carry out the attack. But it doesn't matter who carried out the attack only why it was allowed. It was obviously allowed to forward some agenda.

What this attack allows is exactly what happened after 9/11 (and just like 9/11, 7/7, Boston Bombing, Sandy Hook, this Paris attack was a drill that was turned into reality. The drill was practising for mass shootings + bombings)

You blame a 'Baddy' and which ever country you say the 'Baddy' is, you can use any amount of military force on that country.

It also allows any amount of government legislation to gain more control over the people in any western country.

Why France in particular? possibly France has many colonial ties in many countries so now has an excuse to activate those ties and become another 'Iron Fist' war monger in the world, alongside the USA.
Stured
16 Nov 2015 23:54:13
So this could help push through things such as the increased air strikes in Syria, the so called 'snoopers charter' the Tories are trying to push through? Just as an example.
{Ed033's Note - Anything and everything they want to do during the window of opportunity when most everyone is in agreement that 'something' has to be done.
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Discussion #9766Talk Sense

16 Nov 2015 08:07:38
The house of Saud is propped up by the Wahhabis. As such the royal family back the Wahhabi and fund their schools around the world.

The Wahhabi are an extreme Sunni sect. Their treatment of women has been called unislamic by moderates.

Bin laden was a Wahhabi.

Obama attended a Wahhabi school in Indonesia as a child.

Iraq was a secular country with large non Sunni minorities. Shia and Kurds. The secular regime was overthrown. In the insurgency that followed, orchestrated by Wahhabi funded and bin laden (Wahhabi) trained groups targeted Kurds and Shia.

Syria is another secular country. With large non Sunni groups. Assad is a member of a sect related to Shia Islam. There is an insurgency of groups trained and funded by the Wahhabi.

The Wahhabi main target is Shia Iran.

The Wahhabi control Saudi Arabia through the house of Saud. Saudi Arabia controls the oil. The Americans are used as tools thinking its part of their new world order. Its not its the Wahhabi new world order.

 

frankyscouser
16 Nov 2015 09:53:42
interesting view kim, what has made you come to that conclusion?
{Ed033's Note - i've just read Kim's post above, it is a different view. Who controls the Wahhabis?
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Rian
16 Nov 2015 20:40:07
Here's a quote from King al Faisal Al Saud in 1969.

“We, the Saudi family, are cousins of the Jews: we entirely disagree with any Arab or Muslim Authority which shows any antagonism to the Jews; but we must live together with them in peace. Our country (Arabia) is the Fountain head from where the first Jew sprang, and his descendants spread out all over the world. ”

The Wahhabi are an integral part of, but by no means running the Zionist new world order. It's very difficult for most people to think they could be aligned with the Zionist agenda, but they are and have been for a very long time.
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Shan UNITED boy
16 Nov 2015 13:20:14
Rothschild, Rockefeller anyone?
{Ed033's Note - Rothschild, Rockefeller are in there somewhere but they're not the top of the tree.
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hsf
17 Nov 2015 12:20:03
Rothschild bloodline replaced with Tesla's. Alternate Earth timeline image

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Discussion #9459Talk Sense

15 Nov 2015 19:38:24
Itv cancelled jeyckll and Hyde in light of the weekends events. Unbelievable. Well I'm going to closely monitor itv and complain on sight of any violence and voices raised on any of its programs tonight.

 

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Discussion #2377Talk Sense

15 Nov 2015 17:00:34
I will hold my hand up and say, I'm not the most politically minded person on the planet, but have just come across (unwittingly) a very interesting video.

Remember the Charlie Hebdo shooting, where you see the French policeman lying helplessly on the floor, and one of the 2 terrorists kills him by a single gunshot to the head?

Just seen a video of the incident.
The terrorist clearly does not shoot him in the head, but completely (intentionally) misses him.

Without being too graphic, an Ak-47 bullet to your head would splatter your head and contents across the pavement.
But, he misses and there is absolutely no blood at all.


Like I said, I don't pretend to understand politics, or even all the terrorist atrocities that are going on.

Could anybody explain the video I have just seen?

 

frankyscouser
15 Nov 2015 17:22:36
we spoke about the video mentioned on here when the event happened, what you saw dagenham was a drill then used by the media that the guys dressed in masks, hiding there identity decided to bring there passports and shoot and miss or firing blanks at a cop on the floor, that is called a false flag.
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HERBIE
15 Nov 2015 17:57:09
False flags.

9/11
7/7
Boston marathon
Sandy hook
Charlie Hebdo

And many more.
There has to be a shock factor to make the general public believe that war has to happen.
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dagenham gunner
15 Nov 2015 18:08:24
Ahh, I see.
Is it derived from what the military use to do when they would 'fly' a false flag to get close to the enemy?
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HERBIE
15 Nov 2015 18:19:25
"Historically the term 'false flag' has its origins in naval warfare where the use of a flag other than the belligerent's true battle flag as a ruse de guerre, before engaging the enemy, has long been accepted but the contemporary terms False flag or black flag describes covert operations that are designed to deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by entities, groups, or nations other than those who actually planned and executed them."

Copy and paste job.
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growbun28
15 Nov 2015 18:26:00
when people talk about these false flags do you 100% believe that all the false flags you print to be gospel . I can see how the world manipulates and how things are never as they seem but until there is hard evidence to support otherwise I never ever talk about those said events. I know that we are manipulated on a daily basis I know we are spoon fed bs every day.

What happened In Paris was in ways the fault of the higer power where country's are rewarded for relaxing borders and the been ill advised to gang up on country's and interfere thus causing war and bloodshed as a result of there fingering of matters nowt to do with them. But what I can't entertain are Ideas of westernised people following orders and planting bombs on planes or flying into buildings or shooting down people as some sort of tactical strike or false flag . Yes I believe there is always more at play but I can't entertain the notion that it's as direct as some would suggest.
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Discussion #9458Talk Sense

15 Nov 2015 13:54:24
Your thoughts have to go out to all the family's who were affected in Paris in the aftermath of the appalling acts.

I don't know why it shocks people that things like that happen (aside from obvious shock of mass bloodshed ) . All the European country's relax their borders and interfere in other nations business when everyone knows that the interference isn't anything to do with protecting said country's human rights but to further their own agendas and goals. What happened in Paris can happen in the uk at anytime . Although the little details will never be known it's plain and obvious that ever life is been used like a pawn and there is no real concern over human life from the top.

France have only themselves to blame and it will happen In the uk before we know it.

 

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Discussion #2379Talk Sense

14 Nov 2015 21:55:13
Why do terrorists carry passports?

It's not like they want us to know what country they apparently come from, is it?

Or do 'they'?

In no way is this insensitive, but why is it that passports suddenly turn up?

 

{Ed033's Note - typically because they're told to or a passport is placed or 'found' by a government agency so we can be told who the 'terrorist(s)' is/are.
HERBIE
14 Nov 2015 23:02:14
The good ol bomb proof/ bullet proof/ fire proof/ blood proof/ blown to pieces in an aeroplane proof indestructible passport.
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DaveyBootle
14 Nov 2015 23:08:43
I know.

I stress that tongue-in-cheek.

That old chestnut.

An act of war they say.

They've wanted this act of war for a number of years.

Them poor people suffer at the extremes of the sadistic elite.

Very sad.
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KimPhilby
14 Nov 2015 23:16:30
Or so that anyone who claims responsibility can use it as evidence to back up that claim.
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bankier bhoy
15 Nov 2015 02:08:39
I consider myself to be open minded andiintelligent. After this event I became for a few hours at least an islamaphobe. This is not me, but how many (I do not mean to be up myself) less intelligent folk, have had their "switches flicked"? Is this the nwo, IS, or whatever controlling the masses? I have never felt such hate (albeit a short timeframe.
{Ed001's Note - I deleted multiple posts across the football sites talking about how 'Muslims hate us' yesterday. People just jump on a bandwagon and that is an easy one with plenty of space for all to hop aboard, sadly. Reminds me of the days following Indira Ghandi's assassination at the hands of her Sikh bodyguards, when Hindus were murdering Sikhs in their thousands throughout India.}
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HERBIE
15 Nov 2015 04:57:37
bankier bhoy
I think we all thought along them lines at one point so please, don't beat yourself up about it, its all about keeping that open mind.
There are far too many people out there who are incapable of thinking for themselves that will always believe what the MSM tells them to think, its hard not to listen to the news because its always there trying to manipulate minds.
Sites like this one are far more credible than any TV news channels, we all know that MSM is controlled by the elitists of the world. These are the people that have kicked the hornets nest. World leaders are the puppets who do the dirty work.
Just remember who created isis/isil and research things for yourself, my advice will always be do not believe anything that the news tells you.
IMO our world leaders are the ones with blood on their hands.
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Discussion #9722Talk Sense

14 Nov 2015 11:38:54
Bit out of their however could it be possible that the elite have now broken up and are at war with each other. Could it be that one side arranged the elimination of Jihad John to try and bring an end to their backed ISIS terror group. Then the other side of the elite who want troops on the ground have had to bring more terror to the streets of France to get support back to troops on the ground.

Whatever it is and whoever is behind it may those who lost their lives last night RIP.

 

TTTS
14 Nov 2015 16:12:27
Was there ever a real jihadi John? More than likely another propaganda weapon used to whip up hatred and make it easier for the agents of war to send young men to their deaths. Unfortunately yesterday's event could also be.
{Ed033's Note - It's all theatre and mind control (of everyone), and people are killed all to forward agendas.
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HERBIE
14 Nov 2015 18:34:35
Jihadi John is about as real as Jesus Crist IMO. No doubt the next made up terrorist will be called Elmer Fudd.
My heart goes out to all those people in Paris who have lost family and friends, terrible news.
I hope our world leaders hang there heads in shame but I doubt it, they will be too busy feasting on there banquets tonight.
The world can be fixed but the people cant.
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Rian
15 Nov 2015 02:04:38
I found the timing of the alleged Jihadi John's alleged demise interesting to say the least.
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KimPhilby
14 Nov 2015 23:17:58
So someone on recordings cutting off peoples heads didn't exist?

No wonder I'm seriously considering not bothering with this site anymore.
{Ed033's Note - People aren't saying someone on a video doesn't exist.
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HERBIE
15 Nov 2015 08:15:18
Kim
Hollywood films look realistic don't they?
Anything can be made to look real.
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Discussion #9324Talk Sense

14 Nov 2015 06:40:45
hey guys this is something I picked up of youtube by accident about 9/11, I watch a lot of howard stern shows and he was on the air when 9/11 happened and it was broadcasted live on he's show that a 3rd blast brought down the 1st tower 51.08 seconds into the show.

 

HERBIE
14 Nov 2015 21:26:44
Quite scary to be honest, things are happening exactly how the cartoon said it could.
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Discussion #11157Talk Sense

14 Nov 2015 00:37:09
100 dead in Bataclan alone tonight. The final number will no doubt be much higher. 140+ is the latest death toll. A terrible night for France.

 

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