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Discussion #10594Talk Sense

17 Mar 2014 23:12:15
Hi Melbourne, thanks for your kind words mate. I can see how you's think that from reading my post. I did apologise to the ed, and admitted I may have been a bit harsh. I was just a bit confused seeing the ed using an arguement that I've used before, only when I made the same point, he or she weren't to kind about what I had to say, which is obviously their prerogative. That's mainly was I was getting at. But I've tried posting in here today twice since the original post, and stating both twice that I was sorry.
I also told the ed that I do think his or her credibility mattered, as many on here, like myself, have asked their opinion on many different matters. I asked the ed questions before as whoever it is, is obviously well educated in the field that obviously interests a lit if us on here, so I do still hold a lot of what the Ed had to say in high regard.

Anyway, not going to keep writing, as like I've said, tried posting twice on here again and my posts are not making it up!

Peace

Jay
Glasgow

 

sidneythecat
Hi everyone has right to a opinion granted. Conspiracies are an extremely open and sometime's very confusing agenda but nonetheless a eyeopener weather or not (spelling) everyone agrees that is why it is such an amazing topic. We only want the truth, chill.
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All good mate, don't let it stress you, its the beauty of this site mate. We can disagree on something and then agree on the next. I've seen Ed001 have a pop at posters before, and he certainly held back with you mate, so it shows you're obviously regarded well around here. Keep posting mate.

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Cheers for the replies, appreciated.
I suppose I kinda did just jump in with no real reason for doing so, not really putting my point over as I intended, so fair play to the ed for his/her response. Hopefully my apology will be taken seriously as I love this site, and I'm always interested in what regulars like yourselves and the Ed have to say on many different topics.
I suppose I've been guilty before of getting myself stressed either too quickly, or without actually evaluating a situation before opening my mouth.
We all have our own faults, and others like me maybe have a few too many! Lol
Appreciate that this thread got put up!

Peace

Jay
Glasgow
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Padawan
It's a Scottish trait Jay, I used to be the exact same but as you get older you learn to hawd yer weesh and think before you talk or type.
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So true Padawan lol
Need to sort myself out!

Peace

Jay
Glasgow
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Discussion #2436Talk Sense

17 Mar 2014 22:11:52
hi Eric Melbourne

I found it on another conspiracy theory site, so take with pinch of salt. I just though it was interesting stuff and had to post it here, that is all. Modern planes have so many monitoring/tracking equipment's, its just pretty strange that the plane vanished.

 

Dr.fate
Here are the link http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1754.htm

and here http://www.cabaltimes.com/2014/03/12/ma370-redirected-to-diego-garcia/

It also goes on about tracking/sat/Gps and stuff like that.

Why has nobody confirmed/announced if there were any transmissions sent via SATCOM? Seems to be the elephant in the room - the media currently appears to have an unhealthy tunneled obsession with; radar, ads-b, voice comms, gps, black boxes, etc. Surely ACARS and engine telemetry data could shine a good dose of light on this incredibly sad fiasco. Many aircraft today also have Panasonic Avionics high-bandwidth eXconnect GCS (Global Communications Suite) to augment SATCOM.
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A spoof news type website had a funny dig with one of it stories headlined with "US military stealth bombers to try turning off transponders instead. "

Eric
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Discussion #10593Talk Sense

17 Mar 2014 21:07:38
Ed001/033 do you know of a substitute to fluoride based toothpaste?

Cheers

Melbourne CFC

 

{Ed033's Note - ORAMD}
{Ed001's Note - I found a couple by a company called Himalaya Herbals that were flouride free. Not sure if they are sold in Oz, I found them while in Dubai.}
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Aloe Vera toothpaste seems easy enough to get in health food stores. Might be worth a try.

As a side note, it's quite revealing how resistant the big pharma are to fluoride free toothpaste.

Ryan.
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Thanks guys

Melbourne CFC
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Ok ed 01 himalaya herbals is India Ayurvedic pharma company. We do have a few fluoride free pastes here like meswak nd vithoba and are vastly polpular too didn't know they r having a fan following in UK! Anyways bit of flouride is good for teeth high flouride levels do damage the teeth but never knew its such a rage in west!
{Ed001's Note - there is absolutely no evidence that flouride, in any quantity, big or small, is good for teeth. There is plentiful evidence that it is harmful to humans, and is a major cause of gum disease. Not so sure those toothpastes are available in the UK at all mate, I got some while in Dubai recently.}
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Discussion #10592Talk Sense

17 Mar 2014 16:47:21
Ed001's Note - and you have evidence that it did happen other than media reports then? A media which has lied to people repeatedly over the years. I would say that a belief in anything they say is, quite frankly, stupid, without any evidence. There is only a problem with doubt if you are trying to hide something, otherwise you don't care if people doubt you as you know you are right. }

Had to respond to this belter right here, more specifically this part!

"I would say that a belief in anything they say is, quite frankly, stupid, without any evidence"

I've said the same thing on here about religion countless times ed, and you've always responded quite brashly for want of a better word towards me. You can't shoot me down then use my arguement for your own purposes. Hurts your credibility pal!

And anyway, in other parts of that "response" from you, you speak about evidence. Well were is the smoking gun evidence that sandy hook was false flag? I'm not doubting some maybe shady acts that allowed it to happen, but you're having a go at someone who has the same amount of evidence as you do. YouTube is not the answer to finding truth I'm afraid, no matter how well a video may be put together.

Great to be back

Jay
Glasgow

Never forget how important free speech is, that's what makes this site so palatable!

 

{Ed001's Note - what on earth are you going on about? I am referring to a belief in anything a proven liar is saying is stupid without hard evidence to back it up. Even then I would still be inclined to be distrustful, as the media has continously lied to us over the years.
Not sure what any of that has to do with religion, which, while not something I believe in, has no way of being proven one way or the other. As for my credibility, I have no interest in that whatsoever, this is an opinion, nothing more. What on earth has credibility got to do with that?
Also, why do I need evidence that anything happened at Sandy Hook? Seems you are just jumping on anything to have a bitch at me, as at no point have I said anything happened there at all. I have no idea about the story, nor have I claimed any knowledge of it. All I said was you can't trust what is in the media.
As for youtube, I don't use that site for anything other than looking at the odd footy video someone links me to, for various reasons. Again I fail to see why you are directing your petty whines at me? Is this free speech or someone having a go for no reason other than they can't read what I have written and interpret it? Certainly doesn't seem like anything more than a petty and completely nonsensical personal dig to me.
Remind me never to bother again, it seems that you just want free speech as a way of attacking, rather than anything else. Even someone who was just defending someone else's right to believe in whatever they want.
Perhaps you should start again, at the beginning, and we can just forget this post ever happened.}
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Jay, I usually agree with most of what you say, have done for years, but this is just confusing.

I've never understood people that use free speech as an argument against someone else, or someone that has a different point of view/opinion. Your not a free speech activists if you take offence at another persons viewpoint, you're a hypocrite.

Good to have you back though, mate.

Melbourne CFC
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Discussion #2435Talk Sense

17 Mar 2014 16:18:44
A grim report prepared by the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces (GRU) on Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is stating today that within 24-hours of this aircrafts "diversion" to the highly secretive Indian Ocean US military base located on the Diego Garcia atoll, no less than four flights, within the past week, containing top American and Chinese disease scientists and experts have, likewise, been flown to there.

According to this report, Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 (also marketed as China Southern Airlines flight 748 through a codeshare) was a scheduled passenger flight from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, to Beijing, China, when on 8 March this Boeing 777-200ER aircraft "disappeared" in flight with 227 passengers on board from 15 countries, most of whom were Chinese, and 12 crew members.

As we had previously noted in our report "Russia "Puzzled" Over Malaysia Airlines "Capture" By US Navy, " the GRU had previously notified China's Ministry of State Security (MSS) of its suspicions regarding this flight due its containing a "highly suspicious" cargo that had been offloaded in the Republic of Seychelles from the US-flagged container ship MV Maersk Alabama.

First arousing the GRU's concerns regarding this "highly suspicious" cargo, this report continues, was that after its unloading from the MV Maersk Alabama on 17 February, its then transfer to Seychelles International Airport where it was loaded on an Emirates flight bound for Kuala Lumpur International Airport in Malaysia, after first stopping over in Dubai, the two highly trained US Navy SEALS who were guarding it were found dead.

The two US Navy SEALS protecting this "highly suspicious" cargo, Mark Daniel Kennedy, 43, and Jeffrey Keith Reynolds, 44, were found dead under "suspicious circumstances" aboard the MV Maersk Alabama, this report says, further raising Russian intelligence suspicions as they were both employed by the Virginia Beach, Virginia-based maritime security firm The Trident Group which was founded by US Navy Special Operations Personnel (SEAL's) and Senior US Naval Surface Warfare Officers and has long been known by the GRU to protect vital transfers of both atomic and biological materials throughout the world.

Upon Flight 370's departure from Malaysia on 8 March, this report continues, the GRU was notified by the MSS that they were going to divert it from its scheduled destination of Beijing to Haikou Meilan International Airport (HAK) located in Hainan Province (aka Hainan Island).

Prior to this planes entering into People Liberation Army (PLA) protected zones of the South China Sea known as the Spratly Islands, however, this report continues, Flight 370 "significantly deviated" from its flight course and was tracked by VKO satellites and radar flying into the Indian Ocean region and completing its nearly 3, 447 kilometer (2, 142 miles) flight to Diego Garcia.

In a confirmation of the GRU's assertion that Flight 370 was, indeed, flown to Diego Garcia, this report says, satellite transmission data analyzed by US investigators showed that this planes most likely last-known position was in a zone about 1, 609 kilometers (1,000 miles) west of Perth, Australia in the Indian Ocean.

Most troubling to the GRU about Flight 370's "diversion" to Diego Garcia, this report says, was that it was "nearly immediately" followed by some of the top disease scientists and experts from the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CCDCP) embarking to Diego Garcia on at least four flights.

As to why both American and Chinese disease experts were taken to Diego Garcia where Flight 370 is now known to be, this report says, has as yet not been answered by either of these governments after repeated Foreign Ministry requests for "explanations and clarification. "

What is to be known, this report says, is that as Malaysia has been forced to admit Flight 370 was, indeed, "diverted" from its flight path as the GRU had previously reported, and as at least 25 nations are now involved in searching for it, it remains a mystery as to what is actually occurring.

Also known, this report concludes, is that Diego Garcia as a designated ETOPS emergency landing site for flight planning purposes of commercial airliners transversing the Indian Ocean, and as one of 33 emergency landing sites worldwide for the NASA Space Shuttle, it is "inconceivable" that any type of aircraft, let alone Flight 370, can fly anywhere in the Southern Hemisphere without being tracked, monitored and recorded in totality.


The Dr.

 

sidneythecat
I believe that flight 370 has been taken somewhere, don't know where may be to where you say on your post. One thing is there may be some important scientist's on board or along them lines anyway.
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Where'd you read this report mate? Can you please post a link?

Melbourne CFC
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I am struggling to find evidence of this report. Where has this info come from?

So far all I can find, and no disrespect to The Dr. is word for word copy and paste stories from other alternative, free speech or dare I say it conspiracy websites.

I like the tone of this "report". show me the way!

Eric
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17 Mar 2014 21:35:06
Unusually competent for GRU. If the veracity can be confirmed.

Kim Philby
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The link is further down the page
{Ed033's Note - This could be the link, "further down the page", the above poster is referring to:
http://www.cabaltimes.com/2014/03/12/ma370-redirected-to-diego-garcia/
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Discussion #11483Talk Sense

16 Mar 2014 23:17:32
Hi this missing flight is a bigee (big) it's intended to do the maximum amount of disruption to our daily lives. I think it is trying to distract us or gradually phasing in some sort of microchip system where we are all registered into the grid.

 

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17 Mar 2014 08:48:55
Or maybe it just got hijacked? Why do conspiracists have to look so far into things

LittleMrSunshine
{Ed001's Note - well, for starters, in case it escaped your notice, which it clearly has, a hijacking would involve a conspiracy.}
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I found this on link shared below on cabaltimes
Four days after a missing flight, a patent is approved by the Patent Office for maximizing dies on a wafer. 4 of the 5 Patent holders are Chinese employees of Freescale Semiconductor of Austin TX. Patent is divided up on 20% increments to 5 holders. Peidong Wang, Suzhou, China, (20%) Zhijun Chen, Suzhou, China, (20%) Zhihong Cheng, Suzhou, China, (20%) Li Ying, Suzhou, China, (20%) Freescale Semiconductor (20%) If a patent holder dies, then the remaining holders equally share the dividends of the deceased if not disputed in a will. If 4 of the 5 dies, then the remaining 1 Patent holder gets 100% of the wealth of the patent. That remaining live Patent holder is Freescale Semiconductor.

Who owns Freescale Semiconductor? Jacob Rothschild through Blackstone who owns Freescale. Here is your motive for the missing Beijing plane. As all 4 Chinese members of the Patent were passengers on the missing plane. Patent holders can alter the proceeds legally by passing wealth to their heirs. However, they cannot do so until the Patent is approved. So when the plane went missing, the patent had not been approved. Thus, Rothschild gets 100% of Patent once Patent holders declared deceased.
This sounds like real motive here.
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Yes that link below is very revealing. LittleMrSunshine you should read it.

Ryan.
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Discussion #10591Talk Sense

16 Mar 2014 12:01:04
Russian democracy in action. I am so proud.

Kim Philby

Not sure if sarcasm works in the written word.

 

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Is there such a thing as a russiaphobe!
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16 Mar 2014 18:15:02
Yes of course there is. Are you implying that I am one?

I happen to be Russian, not all of us agree with the current regime. Do you feel silly Mr Anonymous?

Kim Philby
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I have to admit it looks a lot like a Banana republic at the moment.

If the Yanks pulled something like that on say, Mexico, then rightly people would be kicking off.

Mort
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16 Mar 2014 22:30:14
Indeed, even Mugabe must be shaking his head.

Kim Philby
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Kim Philby, I'm Mr Anonymous, I do feel silly, i'm sorry, I don't why I said that, I really don't.

Bless you

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Discussion #4945Talk Sense

16 Mar 2014 10:02:43
{Ed033's Note - Climate Engineering Weather Warfare and the Collapse of Civilisation. Video presentation by Dane Wiggington

 

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Thanks for posting ed033, interesting viewing

I have question if I can mate - do you think its plausible, if this is all factually correct, that seeing as though we are heading towarrds a sun strength comparable to x-ray, which I'd imagine would be highly cancerous, that this has something to do with drastically lowering the population?

I mean the whole western world is pushed with an image of the perfect person being tanned and outdoorsie. I know its a stretch, just asking your opinion on plausibility.

Melbourne CFC
{Ed033's Note - I heard that a couple of years after the year 1900, the controllers were given an ancient document that was discovered that said the Earth was "engineered" to support 500 million humans. In 1900 the guesstimate of the world population of humans was 2 billion. The controllers believed this ancient document and attempted to reduce the population but nothing appeared to work so they decided to throw anything and everything against us to halt and lower the human population.

Even though we hear on both mainstream media and alternative media that the world population is still increasing at an unsustainable rate, I now believe that the world population is now decreasing because of everything they have been doing, poisoning the air, poisoning the water, poisoning the food, the vaccinations, the millions of times increase in radiation, microwave frequencies being used against everyone, introducing GMO foods and a multitude of other stuff including the geo-engineering.

Here's the way I see it at the moment, There are 2 elite groups. 1 group wants to reduce the population to 500 million human slaves (who spend their time as slaves on the coastlines) and have a small elite class who own everything and live on a pristine Earth where the interior of most countries has been returned to nature (This is Group 1's Agenda 21. The agenda for the 21st century).

The other group may appear to be human but do not think as humans (they maybe clones or possessed by 'Walk-ins' or Archons). This group wants to eradicate humans and turn the Earth into a radioactive wasteland with some type of artificial life forms being on Earth. (This is Group 2's Agenda 21. The agenda for the 21st century).

So both groups appear to be acting as 1 group at the moment in the lowering of the population except if you're in Group 1, things like the use of depleted uranium weapons (which they said they would never use as they would turn the Earth into a radioactive wasteland), Fukushima, the gulf oil crisis, fracking, some of the geo-engineering stuff that ruins the Earth, doesn't make much sense to you as this goes against Group 1's Agenda 21.

So, it's Group 2's Agenda 21 that's being implemented and everyone in Group 1 will be taken out with everyone else.

A very small part of the evidence is in the NASA war document
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Discussion #2017Talk Sense

16 Mar 2014 09:48:33
Interesting reading about the missing flight

http://www.cabaltimes.com/2014/03/12/ma370-redirected-to-diego-garcia/

 

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Discussion #9095Talk Sense

14 Mar 2014 21:13:17
i have across this piece about prince andrew not being of royal blood, all of the queens children were born at a hospital except andrew, the Queen was in difficulty over her labor and supposedly the child had brain damage after choking on the umbilical cord, naturally the monarchy could not have a child in line to the throne with a disability and trawled the local hospitals for a new boy born 18th / 19th February with similar characteristics, then swapped the child.
far fetched?not really, history has proved the monarchy have drowned new born babies because they were the wrong sex and a disabled child 50 years ago in a normal family never mind a elitist family were frowned upon, what made me write this post was something my mum always commented on when she seen prince andrew, she always said "he is not related to them " yes I have heard about the queen having a affair and andrew is the consequence of the affair which is plausible but one thing I am certain of is prince andrew is not full royal blue blood.

 

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14 Mar 2014 23:12:27
I can't see the queen having an affair she's too straight. Philip, especially being ex navy is more likely, and I believe he did and the files are locked away in the 100 year bracket.

I've always had my doubts about Edward personally. Not discounting your theory, but Edward to me really seems the odd one out compared to the others. Unless they did it twice.

Any more scandalous stories?

Kim Philby
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I disagree kim about the queens persona, we have only ever seen her with her game face on and what goes behind closed doors and all that, and all the inter breeding they do having a affair if she did have one would be no big deal, to me charles and edward look like brothers granted edward looks like a girl version of charles but that's more about his sexuality (yes I think he is gay/bi) but andrew to me is the odd one out, I am not saying he is totally unlike his so called brothers but if he was cherry picked to be a royal baby he had to have some characteristics and not have have et black hair a massive nose etc etc.
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Did hear that the Queens mother was as rampant as a rabbit, anything that had a pulse for her.

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Interesting, but isn't there also a theory that the royals are lizard people? Lizards lay eggs do they not?
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16 Mar 2014 20:50:41
Ah but these are super lizards, genetically advanced that have been around for millennia utilising advanced technology both human and lizard.

They may still lay eggs or they may not. They may have moved on using technology. They probably don't even incubate the "Eggs" themselves but instead using technology take 1 lizard egg fertilise it then implant it into a living human "incubator". Of course once the "egg" has incubated then the "incubator" is no longer needed and disposed of.

Similar to the concept of Axlotl tanks in Frank Herberts Dune series, with added lizardyness for an extra creep factor.

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Discussion #10590Talk Sense

14 Mar 2014 20:55:37
Does anyone else have the feeling this missing Plane may be a distraction for something much bigger?

RM8

 

frankyscouser
Not sure mate, the media are all over it meaning they genuinely do not know what's going on or are going to promote a theory.
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Look at this. the picture of the 2 iranian passengers. why is the legs on one of them photoshopped onto the other?. http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2014/03/Malaysia-Plane_Horo2-e1394591135885-635x357.jpg
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The media wouldn't photoshop an image would they?

Just like they wouldn't photoshop Dzhokhar Tsarnaev running away from the Boston Bombing with his back pack missing even though he was still carrying it?

No surely not ;)

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15 Mar 2014 22:47:45
What does it mean?

Dave
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16 Mar 2014 19:23:26
sorry folks have been away so have not caught up for a week or so.

what about Alien Abduction? my wife scoffs, but I am deadly serious
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Discussion #12523Talk Sense

14 Mar 2014 14:29:18
Hi guys,

I'm thinking about watching the Zeitgeist movies this weekend. For those that have already seen them, what do you make of them? Are they worth watching?

Thanks,

 

frankyscouser
Yes they are worth watching, there is more truth than fiction.
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YoungKenny
Thanks Franky. I'm looking forward to watching them.
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Well worth a watch Kenny.

Ryan.
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YoungKenny
Watched the first of them today with my house mate. He's one of those who hasn't really thought about any of it, just rather oblivious to the whole lot! But he seemed to enjoy it and agree with most of what's being said.

It just goes to show that people will take notice if they have access to the facts. Unfortunately that's difficult with this ultra-controlled world we live in.

I'm looking forward to watching the others now.
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frankyscouser
Nice one kenny, its all about spreading the word, knowledge is power.
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