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Discussion #10334Talk Sense

06 Aug 2013 23:40:17
I know a lot of people found their way to this page via the football sites so I would be interested to hear peoples opinion on the theory that certain african players/ players of african origin are older then they say, players such as jay jay okacha, n****wo kanu and freddie adu are just some of the players that people have claimed haved lied about their age. Anyone got any thoughts/theorys or names of other players who have been suggested to be older than they say?

RedPJ

 

{Ed001's Note - it is actually very well known that a lot of them did this, as the countries do not have accurate birth records, it is very easy to just fake them. It was usually just to allow them to compete in youth tournaments. There have been a number of nations banned from competition over it.}
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Got any other names? Taribo west was claimed to be 12 years older then he says. that's some going playing as long as he did if it's true.

and the latest of course is Falcao who has been said to be 29 not 27

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Michael Essien, John mensah and Pantsil had doubts about their ages brought up by someone in their own football federation. Obafemi Martins was also doubted as I remember when he was incredibly young at inter Milan. George weah could have been another. Also showing my age a bit there was a young player I think of African origin years ago at anderlecht I think who played in the first team at 15 or something called Nil Lamptey? Hailed as the next great/Pele. He had to be a "ringer".

Supasub
{Ed001's Note - Nigeria were banned from some youth tournaments due to false ages. They have introduced testing to check the ages now and still a country has had to be banned, I think it was Kenya off the top of my head, but that is probably not right.}
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BigRed
Yeah it is interesting, I wouldn't be surprised if South America has a similar problem after doubts being cast on Falcoa's age.
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RR!
Don't know how true this is but got told in Nigeria because births aren't recorded that once they apply for a passport this then becomes date of birth! This isn't solid info just what I got told over obefmi martins! Funny if true! Think this was the same with Kanu!
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A few years ago I knew a man from sierra leone who moved to England and got a trial at west ham telling them he was 21 when he was in his 30's god knows how he got a trial because he was garbage also nii Lampety played for villa and was a beast on champ manager
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Discussion #9010Talk Sense

06 Aug 2013 16:13:26
after watching the Peter Levenda video below and he is claiming our history should be rewritten it made me think that if you believe in a elite/illuminati call it what you want, have been running the planet for hundreds/thousands of years then all of our documentation has to be a lie from say the plague to the real reason of ww2 basically everything and we are all living in the trueman show, would like to know how everyone else feels that agree and disagree.

 

{Ed033's Note - All of history that we have been presented with by mainstream is wrong.
frankyscouser
I have always known something is not right about the world I live in but this is a matrix moment plus mainstream media thousands of years ago was something called a bible, enough said about that.
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RR!
Agree franky! Throughout history we are told who the evil ones were like hitler and bin laden but never look at how we as a country could invade say Scotland. rape, kill and pillage villages, how we could turn up in Ireland, set off fake bombs blame it on the Irish and just kill who ever they please! This was never brought up in my history class! All I got taught was the English conquered lands! Big pile of BS!
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Garbo
History is written by the victors.
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frankyscouser
Plus we have to look at things that we believe is the norm for instance is the moon real?and a real mindf--- is a episode from dr who that really stuck with me and made me think was about two enemies that fought with each other for thousands of years (they believed ) but they find out of the dr that their history is a lie and there war has been going on for 72 hours, this is going to sound absurd but if we agree all documented scribes/tablets/paintings are controlled by the elite then who is to say our history is not as long as we believe?just thinking outside the box guys ha
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BigRed
Wow that is a real mindf---! It reminds me of the phantom time mystery.
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Discussion #10013Talk Sense

06 Aug 2013 17:35:50
Coast 2 coast last night was about Aliens and underground bases. just thought some of u may be interested.

 

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D.u.m.b.s dulce, phil schneider.
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northernbeasle
Yes Franky another interesting fella. Love coast though can't get enough. Veritas and red ice are ok as well. Been some good shows recently.
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frankyscouser
Agreed mate.
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Discussion #2234Talk Sense

05 Aug 2013 17:37:16
I've been reading a book called "UFO Encounters" there are some abductee reports about a so called Galactic Federation, I was thinking then if exists (I don't know if it does or not) that could we be its equiilant of N. Korea?

 

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Discussion #9578Talk Sense

05 Aug 2013 00:36:46
Hey Eds and everyone else, usually stick to the liverpool page but check this one out daily. Just wondering if the Eds or any other posters here could recommend some good conspiracy documentaries that maybe aren't as widely known as 9/11 for example.
Thanks in advance to anyone who takes the time to reply to this.
Jack!

 

{Ed033's Note - The Electric Universe Theory

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If you just click on the conspiracy video links at the top left of this page. there are loads. just copy and search.
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rank0 rank1 rank2 Ed033
{Ed033's Note - Ancient Giants existed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4642t4dvMc
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reydelmundo
Nephilum?
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Discussion #10333Talk Sense

05 Aug 2013 12:29:56
Just got back from camp bestival, caught a little bit of DJ Fresh's set and everyone was being asked to do a pyramid symbol just like Jay-z's.
Can anybody apart from the obvious tell me what for? Surely even DJ Fresh is not on the bandwagon. Had all these kids doing pyramid signs with both hands and I bet nobody even really knows why. Irritates the f*** out of me. Had a good weekend though.

Supasub

 

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I say, caught a bit of his set, I actually managed about all of 10 minutes as I thought some other act where on before moving on. Had to get to somewhere in my own age range so took the family to listen to some 80's grooves followed by some acid house. Bless em.
I know not a conspiracy but I have my theories on the house generation and the influx of drugs which I will go into at a later date.

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Please do supasud
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Discussion #10332Talk Sense

05 Aug 2013 03:55:04
Currently watching (and enjoying) the Walking dead series, programmes like this do make me wonder though, are we slowly but surely being conditioned to accept such scenarios as the norm in the near future?

 

BigRed
Some councils in England have a protocol set for Zombie attacks just find it a bit interesting. Also regarding The Walking Dead it would be interesting to know if all the countries are like that.
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NI Gunner
Think about it. The gov't wouldn't want us prepared.
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Most commercial and govt entities have policies that cover attacks by Zombies, Godzilla, Independence Day Aliens and/or any combination of these. It's called Force Majeure and it's also used by your insurance companies to deny them exposure in such an event.

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All I know is I sat in a civil contingency meeting at my work which involved, head of council, police, ambulance, fire to name a few. This matter was brought up and quickly quashed, to be fair it was a council cheif that asked, they're all persons anyway
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Discussion #10331Talk Sense

04 Aug 2013 09:05:56
I have been doing some research and I have come to the conclusion that we have technology that is out of this world, such as, 'Direct Energy Weapons'. What are your thoughts?
SUPERJOHN71

 

{Ed033's Note - Yes, on 9/11 the seismic records showed the towers did not hit the ground, therefore an unknown black technology turned the towers to dust and so a theory put forward by Dr. Judy Wood was that someone showed us they have 'Directed Energy Weapons' technology that can at least turn buildings to dust.
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Is it just America that has this kind of technology/weapons?
or do uk/Russia/china/n korea have their own weapon programs
kinda makes me think something must be happening, because of everyone scrapping nukes. ya wouldn't get rid of weapon/anything?
without replaceing with something newer and better.
only me opinion.

dbadger.
{Ed033's Note - At the political level we see, USA, Russia, China are against each other but if you know about the higher level, breakaway civilisation theory, they all work together on a secret space program using black technology.
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Thank you for reply ed.
I`ve never heard the higher level break away civilisation theory, sounds like there all in it together at the top end of it all.
will ground fighting with hundreds of thousands of soldiers be phased out?is it any defence against the introduction of direct energy weaponry?
i. e. north Korea with million strong army, can they defend against such technology? or even the uk if it came to that.

only my opinion.
dbadger.
Radio interview Richard Dolan on Whitley Strieber's Dreamland about disclosure and the breakaway civilisation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxvZWIF5iGc

Peter Levenda - Origins of the Secret Space Program & The Breakaway Civilization

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Thank you again ed.
I'll have a look at those links and watch video asap.
cheers again.
dbadger.
{Ed033's Note - For those of you who want to know a bit more of the background to some of the people involved in the JFK assassination, the beginning of the Peter Levenda presentation is worth a look
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frankyscouser
Interesting conference edd facts stranger than fiction, mindblowing connections.
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Discussion #10330Talk Sense

03 Aug 2013 23:11:42
hello i'm new to this site but very interested and curious about everyones views on differant subjects iv heard lots of theorys about 9 11 the royals iluminata etc but what about jesus god good evil. thank you look forward to reading your views

 

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1) If Jesus did exist he'd look middle eastern. However, trying to convince all those crusaders to go on a rampage in the middle east would be quite difficult if they thought the son of god could potentially be among the soon to die sinners. Money might have worked for some of them but it wouldn't work as a motive for everyone.

2) God backwards spells Dog. Probably means nothing, though it would be interesting as animism existed in the past. Also, I think the personification of god is a defense mechanism for unimaginative, insecure and xenophobic people to cope with infinity. It's more likely it started the other way around, so maybe a way for the powers at be to stop people from being imaginative, feeling secure and believing that everything has equal right to existence.

3) As for good and evil, dualities exist only in the low dimensions.

Bonus) A lot of old monasteries that had painted walls portraying magic mushrooms were demolished. It is believed by some that that is what the holy spirit represents.

Tip) As priests were historically the ones holding on to all the hidden knowledge and thus power, if someone is seeking truth one might want to avoid organised religion. On the other hand if one is trying to understand propaganda and the effects thereof, that would be the place to start.

Zari
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Okay thank you for reply
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You are most welcome.
Zari
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frankyscouser
All I am saying is the bible of ever culture is propaganda.
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Everything paticularly with political motive is propaganda it is not a by word for lies
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Discussion #2233Talk Sense

03 Aug 2013 14:16:05
So your thoughts on Google's new "Always listening" voice recognition on the new Motarola phone? Sounds kinda suspicious, it's bad enough that they listen to our phone-calls and messages.

 

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There is plenty of rumours connecting Google to the NSA and in extension to the whole US spying program to begin with. As for your question, sorry to be the barer of bad news, anything with a speaker/microphone registers all sounds in its range. All that is needed is some reprogramming and a medium to store the data on the spot or some kind of infrastructure for them to be transmitted and stored elsewhere. So even your beeping microwave can be turned into a surveillance device provided you live in one of those "smart" homes.
Zari
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Discussion #9870Talk Sense

03 Aug 2013 09:41:03
Don't know if this is conspiracy as such, but I live in the Stoke-on-Trent area, and on Thursday night at about 10 pm I heard a jet passing overhead very low. Went outside to see what is was and saw what I can only imagine, by the speed they were travelling, two fighter jets passing over the horizon travelling westbound. They then banked and came back overhead travelling east. I heard nothing else so googled it on Friday morning and not much was mentioned, but someone said on another forum that they'd seen two "fully armed" Apache type helicopters on the edge of Stoke-on-Trent about three hours before. Any ideas?

 

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03 Aug 2013 11:15:59
I saw 2 apache looking helicopters a few weeks back flying over Northampton.
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I heard some really loud jets a few days ago over where I live, I didn't see them though.

Probably just some training exercise or the conspiracy theorist in me thinks they could be guiding/flying along side something. I was like half 11 ish so nobody would of seen anything.
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Apaches are silent. When I was in the forces I was walking along a cliff edge then all of a sudden an apache just popped up, their immense
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Discussion #10329Talk Sense

03 Aug 2013 02:20:04
Embassy closures all over the Middle East because that thing that America used to fund and probably still does might do some 'terrorism' this weekend?
Well those of us who find the US propaganda machine as a manipulation of people's state of mind will have obviously looked at this headline news from a less obtuse point of view? So what do we think is going on people?

Matt_RFC hello again regulars!

 

{Ed033's Note - Hello and welcome back Matt_RFC
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Increased police helicopter activity in Cyprus for the last 2-3 days. They seem to be flying close to the Dhekelia British military base.
Zari
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