Talk Sense

26 May 2013 12:44:59
ed I registered for a username on this site, does it mean i'm signed in at other sites like football rumours etc?

{Ed033's Note - What it means is that your username is unique to our sites so no one else can be deakko7 on our other sites but because of internet security measures, you'll have to log in to our other sites

26 May 2013 11:46:12
I'm a British soldier and it makes me laugh what some people think we do in places like Iraq and afghan. No mention of help build their infrastructure such as build new roads schools etc I remember in Iraq we gave a village to new generators because they had no power only for them to sell them to someone a week later. Most people out their know we are their to help them but live in fear of the Taliban and you know when their about because the normally friendly locals won't even talk to us. Yes sometimes their is civilian casualties but we are not monsters we are people with family to.
The big problem with the uk today is bums who have no intention of finding a job because its beneath them and the other half are smack eds. the youth don't respect their elders and their kids will grow up twice as bad.
If you smoke weed which you can tell most people on this site do don't bother to reply. Some of the conspiracies on here are interesting but others are total b*******.

26 May 2013 10:47:06
this country can no longer be called 'great' britain anymore. what is great about it? no trust. no loyalty. no protection. we pay taxes towards state funerals and the nursing of terrorists. the government lies to us on a daily basis and do nothing to protect us from terror. I for one am very nervous/scared for my sons life who is only 2, what kind of a world he has to grow up in to. serving your country is no longer an honourable job to some. what did our fathers and grandfathers fight for 70 years ago? is this freedom? being scared to walk home from a pub 10 mins from your house or wonder down a street you have never been down before because of the colour of your skin?

this country is destined for a number of civil wars all to do with what people call 'religion?

god made us a paradise which we have as humans in the last 2000 years have destroyed.

we are devoloping a space program to attempt to colonise other worlds, what right have we if we can't even co exist on our current one?

it makes me so sad that this is the kind of world we live in where race, religion, gender, sex preference etc are judged and used to promote violence

good luck to all

deakko7

24 May 2013 22:23:04
i understand the anger of the EDL but they have no idea how our society works. they think the upper and middle classes actually give a dam about their lives. if the ruling classes gave a dam about them they would feel sorry for creating drug infested crime ridden areas for them to live in, they don't. the EDL think the police and army sympathise with them, but if they started a civil war their the ones who would be fighting them. you can not beat the system. its the same system that put little kids to work in mines and mills. politics is a soap opera played out in front of us to make us believe we have choices but we don't. nothing changes because its not suppose to. this countries a mess because most people only care about prem football corrie who jordans seeing and how peter andre is getting on. when working class people get angry because they actually care about what's going on the full weight of the establishment goes against them. they just can't see it

24 May 2013 22:17:59
Just seen 2 members of the FBIs elite counter terrorism unit that were involved in the capture of Dzokhar Tsarneav have died training how to use ropes to exit a helicopter due to "unspecified difficulties" what's your thoughts unfortunate accident or removal of possible whistleblowers something else? Doesn't really add up not heard much about it on the news surely 2 Counter Terrorost Agents who captured the Boston bombing would get some sort of Heros Grievance in the States It happened at the weekend and I heard nothing of it before the London Tragedy have I just missed this or has it not really been big news before Wednesday looks kinda swept under the carpet to me?

Rise & Shine

24 May 2013 22:13:25
{Ed001's Note - if that was true, why is the missing link seen as the 'Holy Grail' of researchers? It is not easily identified, simply because we have yet to find the missing link, or any actual links. You are talking complete fiction. I have no idea where you have got your nonsense from, but it is certainly not true. }

Do you believe in these links ed because they say we are 2 genes or something away from monkeys. Yet I think we are also 2 genes away from being a dolphin so I feel these area false ideology to explain something that can't be explained simply.

Kopping a feel

Ps- I believe we are a race that has been to such advancements before then recycled by earth when something ( maybe Nibiru or a higher civilisation) decides we are a threat to ourselves or the earth itself. {Ed001's Note - I don't know mate, I am keeping an open mind on the subject, the knowledge we have available does not give us a clue either way. It is, at the moment, all conjecture, with so many theories, none of which can actually be positively ruled out. Hopefully I will live to see us find out for sure which one is correct, but I am not holding my breath!}

24 May 2013 19:49:48
Evening Folks,
I knew this tragedy which occurred in Woolwich would create lots of conflicting views, and have been keeping an eye on this page to read the views. Personally, I do not think it was a 'false-flag' but that's just my opinion.

I have friends of different religions, from different countries throughout the world, Americans, Czechs, English, Australians, Mexican, and Poles to name a few. I used to travel about a fair bit in my early twenties and got to meet lots of amazing people.

I have learned that critically thinking people are most definitely the minority. I have my views on certain events throughout history, and always seem to cause a stir among my friends. They all can't seem to comprehend the thought of any governments causing havoc amongst it's citizens for their own personal gain.

When I mention how the Military Industrial Complex works, or the oil companies, or the Federal Reserve, things like that, I can always guarantee a snigger from any corner of the room. I won't claim to be the most articulate of people and can sometimes struggle to get everything into one argument without beginning to run away with my thoughts.

Anyway enough of the rambling, I just wanted to have a little say on this current subject. What happened was terrible and I really feel for that soldier and his family. I have seen things on other social networks, some from friends, and some from people I just know about town or from school years ago.

Some are beyond reason, stating things like 'all those Islamists should be nuked'. 'dump them in the sea with Bin Laden' (thought that one was funny). 'how can these people act like this?'. 'our troops try and bring democracy to their sh*tholes'. 'we try and civilise their counties and this is what we get?'.

Many more but I don't want to type them as much as I'm sure you don't want to read. This my friends is what's wrong with society today, way too many people have sucked in this media spin on the 'war on terror' and how the so called 'Superpowers' are only trying to help other unfortunate countries. These extremists have been created by other countries getting involved in their own countries affairs. I am far from religious, and hope I don't come across as racist, but if the likes of Britain and America didn't invade the Middle-East or Africa, maybe, just maybe things like this wouldn't happen.

Soldiers, troops, peace-keepers, what-ever you like to call them, in my eyes aren't heroes, unless they're guarding their own countries, not jumping in a ship or plane and wrecking other places. Well, I already regret posting this, as I have had a few too many drinks already (wife and kids are away for the day/night). I hope what point I am trying to get across will be found in here somewhere.

24 May 2013 18:04:27
First time poster
Reading the comments of Ryan how and when have the British army killed innocent people.
And how is the woolwich killing a conspiracy.
Explain?

24 May 2013 17:50:28
To the unnamed poster blaming the media for spinning it as terrorism the definition of terrorism is
the unofficial or unauthorized use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims

Now apart from sheer lunacy that sums up Wednesdays events the murderer swore by Allah that they would never stop fighting us our children will be killed In the streets like In his land which he's probably never been too before so isn't the real evil the ones who are converting these young men?

If we converted there kids To christianity or a Innocent Asian was killed in the streets London would be burning right now that's the problem we need to act or I fear for our land and I am not saying violence is the answer but there is no place for people who hate every single one of us in our own country for what Obama, Clinton, Blair Cameron & all there cronies have done to them and again I am not talking about all Muslims some are great people infact my local newsagent was in the other night there cooking me
Up his own curry recipe it was the best I've ever tasted before anyone brands me a racist!


Rise & Shine

24 May 2013 14:54:36
listening to glen beck online now and some stuff I agree with and a lot I do not agree with but he brought up a valid point, he said why would it take one women to stop a bus and go to the victim, why was there no men seeing that done to a victim and just watched, why?are they all sheep?then he said would that have happened in past generations?now I will openly admit a guy with a gun and knives I know for a fact I am not getting involved unless it is a family or friend member, but I think beck has a point on this subject I think our forefathers would have confronted these killers which could be why this generation morals are going to the gutter.

24 May 2013 11:52:56
Why is there no blood on the road, when apparently the victim was stabbed and hacked multiple times and then dragged across the road as all the witnesses have said. Nor is there any blood on the clothing of either nutter. It's not scientifically possible for there to be no blood spillage on the clothes after hacking and attempting to behead a man, or for there not to be any blood on the floor.

The witnesses and the media are spinning a story. A poor young man was killed by a car collision and his death is being used to ignite a war. This young soldier would not want anyone to be taking revenge on other poor innocent souls. It's time to wake up when you're being sold a story by the media ala 'WMD's and 'terror threat'.

24 May 2013 09:25:26
I feel compelled to write about the general direction that this site has taken recently. I have for years enjoyed coming on here and reading theories about, mainly historical, conspiracies where there was a wide variety of opinions based on primary, literary, internet sources, occassionally contributing.

However recently there seems to be a common culture from some of the regular posters cranking the irrational paranoia up to 11. Any crank who posts a video on youtube is now instantly hailed as a credible source of the truth, yes some of them make some excellent points but taking a diametrically opposed view to the government/authorities/intelligence services doesn't automatically make it right. Anytime there is some atrocity in the news we instantly have pseudo experts on here stating categorically that "this was definitely false flag" Was it? or do you mean that is your opinion or summation?

Similarly political opinion is becoming more prevalent and extreme. I understand how politics has a bearing in many conspiracies but posters now just stating how much they hate/ed a politician or party is not relevant. Of course it's your right to hold that opinion but it is sometimes so simplistic and out of context for the content of this page. Right wing = bad and Left wing = good is not always the case, as the millions starved to death in China and the USSR under communism show. Last night we even had someone demanding that religion be banned - should we just ban free speech, freedom of thought, freedom of expression unless it fits with your views?

I fully expect to be shouted down on this view but I feel that the opinions are getting more extreme and biaised and that anyone with a different view is essentially told they are being manipulated.
CBP {Ed001's Note - I personally agree with you, I do argue with my friends who are religious over their beliefs, but I would never ever want them stopped from having their beliefs. If nothing else, how do you know your view is correct if you have no opposite view to challenge it constantly? Which is where our current political system fails miserably, as there is no real left and right, they are all just various shades of right these days. By the way, what the USSR and China refer to as Communism is not true Communism anyway, that ideology will never work because of human nature.}