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Discussion #1264Talk Sense

11 Jul 2012 01:26:03
Eds, I asked about a week ago if anyone had any info on the Lacerta Files.

Didn't seem to get posted and as I'm new to this site I just wondered if it had already been discussed?

If not I'd love to get people's opinions on it?

J

 

Just type it in search engine and loads of info on it mate.

NoneTheWiser
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Have listened to the Lacerta Files and like the interview mentions "no one will believe you" if it is a hoax it is fully detailed , i am unsure thou, on the negative side of interview, why pick a random man in Sweden to communicate with? no pictures/no audio on the flip side some of the things the so called alien makes sense to me, i am a believer in aliens but still have doubts about this interveiw, here is the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE1mB58i6FE&feature=related

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Discussion #1263Talk Sense

09 Jul 2012 12:50:20
I watched a programme last night about the illumianti...
Can anyone shed any light on them... I found some off it belivable but some off it very farfetched...
Thanks in advance rickblfc...

 

{Ed033's Note - There are multiple illuminati groups and what illuminati means is 'the illumined ones' and all they're supposed to do is attempt to become illuminated/enlightened that's it. But because they have been corrupted they actually do the exact opposite of what they are supposed to do.
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They don't exist, all farfetched nonsence. {Ed001's Note - and you can prove this? Or are you just a sheep that doesn't believe they exist because you haven't seen them on the news?}
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I dislike the word illuminati or nwo and things like that. We dont need to put a label on them, the fact is the same people have been dictating over us for the last few hundred years. The way media has raced foreward lately means that exposure is out there as it never used to be but half of the stuff you see on youtube and the like is all rubbish but some of it is factual. The main big TV networks and tabloids are all owned by the same people and is as much a propaganda mouthpiece today as it allways has been. Id just call them "The elite", they are powerfull families basically who control money, media and religion. If we have to put a label on them I'd call them "The lying murdering inbred people" - You know who they are, a few weeks ago you will have seen moronic dullards waving flags in a deluded state of mind at them and repeatedly stating how they would like their imaginary friend who lives on a cloud to save and bless the rich and powerfull one. You couldn't make it up!

Matt_RFC
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"Moronic dullards" - :)
Best post I've read in a while, cheers matt

sdk
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A great book to read is Bloodlines of the illuminati by Fritz springmeier.

After he wrote this he was set up and sent to prision for over 10 years.
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Discussion #1262Talk Sense

09 Jul 2012 03:51:05
Hello recently discovered the deepweb, which i never knew existed at all. Was wondering what experience you have with it and is there any information regarding ufos or illuminati/mind control stuff on there? Thanks

{Ed033's Note - The deep web is the part of the www that is not indexed by the standard search engines and is much larger than the surface webthat is indexed by search engines

 

Never knew about it myself, any ideas what sort of things you can search for?
frankyscouse
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I typed it in and it came up straight away about it on wikipedia, therefore, it is 100% being monitored by the guys that know that we know, that they know etc......

Matt_RFC
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Yes but alot of stuff does go on, on there. To use it you need an anonymous browser, i read somewhere there are diferent "levels" to it whatever that means, lots of hackers and international crim organisations use it aswell as the governments im sure
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This is the most interesting post i have ever come across on this site, if you google dark web on youtube it will show you how to get on it, its like a black market that sells absotlutely everything,
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Discussion #1261Talk Sense

08 Jul 2012 22:54:00
Iv never posted or told anyone about what happened to me and I know its not the first time its happened, but when I was trying to get to sleep a few night ago I felt totally stuck to the bed I couldnt move an inch, open my eyes or move my lips and I was totally aware what was happening to me, I also heard a srange noise in my head which sounded like a frequency on tuning into a radio station it was the stranged thing Iv ever heard and if you could imagine waves and waves of the frequency going through your head then being totally paralysed to the bed and cant move a muscle, I felt as if something was there, has anyone else had this stuff happen to them?

Rohan

 

I had this happen to me twice a few years ago, I woke up in the night paralysed and felt like someone was sitting across my chest, as soon as I was able to scream out it went. I think the house I lived in was haunted as it as over 300 years old and when I selling the house I took pics and when they were developed there were numerous orbs in the bedroom where I had the experience, I also found out years later that my brother had the same thing but never said anything. Not sure if it's the same for you but I definitely have had the same thing happen to me.

Monty
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I have read quite a bit of these cases ,i am no expert but what i have gathered is rohan your experience could be a number of things from seizures /sleep disorder to alien abduction, i am not saying its any of them ,and to monty your experience sounds like a classic case of "Old Hag" Syndrome.you mentioned your home was haunted ,if u google old hag syndrome it will explain a lot better than me.
frankyscouse
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Iv had this a few times, its called sleep paralysis (sorry for spelling) first time i had it i s**t myself. google it.
duggo
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Hello, have had simillar experience a handful of times over the last 5/6 yrs. I am in bed and seem to have woken up but im hanging over the edge of the bed and feel numb and fuzzy and paralysed and really have to fight.to try and move and eventually fall off my bed. Weird, after this everything goes blank and i wake up in bed as normal and have forgotten what happened. It seems very real and vivid and i always notice it is early morning and bright
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It's sleep paralysis brought on usually by being a heavy drinker, used to get it all the time when I was in my early 20's, don't get it now as I don't drink as much. My brother and my mates also had same problem.

It can be really scary

Bowbhoy
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Discussion #1260Talk Sense

08 Jul 2012 21:04:10
one thing i've noticed with all these conspiracy theories is that its always some shady shadowy secret group thats running things. However how does that work in reality. You can't run things by committee, there's always differing factions and opinions. In any organisation it always comes down to one man, if you climb high enough its always one man in charge with total power. Below him might be say an advisory group who do the actual running but just one person is directing things. Is that possible?

 

I disagree if it was just one man/woman who was in charge of everything it would be to much temptation to bump them off if there was something you did not agree with,i think there are a small few people who are running the world order.
frankyscouse
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Good point Franky, but what if the 1 person in charge was from some sacred bloodline, or family that is considered sacred, and everyone's sworn allegiance to that person. Based on some of the stuff i've read i think treason like planning on bumping off the top bod would not go down too well. Not saying it doesn't happen of course. Maybe they'd start off as in charge and the "council" has just took over and use whoever as an internal figurehead?
Just thought would offer a different line of thinking.
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Even if it was a sacred bloodline everyone has enemies and its human nature that the more you have the more you want, even royalty threw-ought the centuries have plotted to kill each other to become king/queen.
frankyscouse
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I think its like the mafia, there are powerfull families and they agree on things and help each other out and have to all agree and get each others say so on important matters

Matt_RFC
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Totally agree matt.
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Discussion #1259Talk Sense

08 Jul 2012 20:17:31
Has anyone heard of the theory that the missing 8 minutes on the watergate tapes actually consist of Nixon talking about the existence of et's? Heard about this the other day and couldn't find any info.

 

It was 18 minutes that were missing
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Discussion #1258Talk Sense

08 Jul 2012 04:23:48
Eds, new to this site......find it very interesting, I normally just look at the Liverpool rumours page so..........its a slight change. IVe been reading a lot of stuff recently though about the iluminati and how they control the worlds governments, basically I wanted to get your thoughts on their symbol being the eye of Lucifer at the top of a pyramid and how this eye is being used in many forms of media today such as music videos adverts, and the like?

Cheers

R@

{Ed033's Note - Symbols are known to affect us. There is a sub-conscious communication of sorts that can go on when we see symbols.

This particular symbol of the eye at the top of the pyramid appears to mean different things to different groups and even within those groups, you will be told different things depending on what level you are.

Richard Hoagland is fond of saying. "The lie is different at every level". If you take freemasonry for example, 33 degree freemason, Albert Pike wrote that the people at the lower degrees were told complete rubbish and the funny thing is that there are actually higher degrees than 33, so it could be that Albert Pike himself was being told rubbish himself.

 

The eye is, in my opinion, symbolising the third eye (pineal gland). Everyone has one but as it is coated in fluoride it is not active.
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It's an "all seeing" eye IMO as it sits in the top of the pyramid that could potentially mean different things.
I believe it also is surrounded by reptile like skin which could be linked to reptilians etc. Regarding Symbolism, I was looking at the symbol of Scientology with the snake (I'm presuming reptilian) but the 2 pyramids suggest a group within and above another group. Anyone wonder what or who this represents, ed/anyone?

Supasub

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Discussion #1257Talk Sense

08 Jul 2012 13:12:52
What do you guys think of David Icke?
Ive started reading his book "the biggest secret" after some one posted a link to it on here.
Some of his views i can believe like there are people (or a brotherhood as he calls it) who have control over certain things ie the stock market so thety can make things work for them and the fact that 1000's of years ago ETs came down and had some involvement with early man.
But Icke says that these people that control the world (the brotherhood) are ETs known as Reptilians who can shape shift.
If such creatures were on earth surley they would find a quicker way to control the earth rather than messing with the goverment, stock market, baks etc

RedLeigh9

{Ed033's Note - The biggest secret book is old information that david Icke thought was true back then. You should forget about reading that book and read his latest book as this will contain the latest info that David Icke believes to be accurate.

David Icke seems to get more accurate as time goes on. David Icke's latest book is: Human Race Get off Your Knees - The Lion Sleeps No More

 

Sorry ed have to disagree David Icke is nothing more than a man taking credit for others findings and he makes money from it.My friend says its ridiculous he just had a thought about the moon matrix (f*** off he stole it from others on the internet) we do his investigating for him then he ties it into his own theorys.He does no real work just finds something he can use and makes outlandish claims about it.

Kopping a feel

{Ed033's Note - All i said was David Icke seems to get more accurate as time goes on, I didn't say anything else. David Icke's latest information is about the Archons which I heard John Lash talking about on radio programs over 5 years ago. David Icke used John Coleman's book committee of 300 and Jordan Maxwell's info to start his career but at the same time David Icke has done a fantastic job of "waking people up" and I say great job David Icke.
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Discussion #1256Talk Sense

08 Jul 2012 00:16:55
Scientists suggest that with the advances in technology that there are people alive today who will reach 1000 yrs old.
Sure the rulers wouldn't want this due to over consumption of the planets resources?
What's the likely hood of being able to plant ones consciousness into a cloned body?

NoneTheWiser

 

Cool, 1000 years, I may yet live to see Liverpool win the premier league!

{Ed033's Note - The ruling class want this technology for themselves to live long lives not for us.
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I say to that do you really want to live to be 1000, thats like 800 years in the work place, F that. On the Liverpool point I hope it doesn't come to that.
Andrew
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Discussion #1255Talk Sense

07 Jul 2012 17:31:54
If it even exists what do you reckon is written in the secret book that every president of America has contributed to and receives when made president.

Kopping a feel

 

Well I believe JFK put in his top ten do's and dont's to woo women, Nixon was bowling tips and recipes, Carter was peanut growing tips, Reagan was acting tips, Bush Sr god only knows, Clinton just borrowed JFK's tips.
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Sorry Kopping a feel, that was a bit facetious. I've heard about said book as well, and personally i don't hold much by it. Maybe once, but given the decline of the presidency can't really see it. What would someone like Bush JR put in it?

{Ed033's Note - Bush Junior might put something like, it was all Dick Cheney's fault
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Ah but was it though Ed?

{Ed033's Note - I was joking, Dick Cheney is just a useful idiot for the ruling class like all the other politicians that get to that level.
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It might not be a book per-say but I feel like the deepest secret of the nation are passed down. To be fair Bush had an unprecedented attack. It was not like Saudi attacked an idea attacked and you cant kill an idea.
Andrew
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Discussion #1254Talk Sense

07 Jul 2012 10:10:46
anybody heard of putting bugs in peoples heads,making them hear voices,driving them nuts etc

 

What kind of bug? I'm not a fan of spiders myself :)

{Ed033's Note - They don't require "bugs". There is a remote "voice to skull" technology they have had for years now where they can point a device at you and speak into the device and you hear a voice speaking to you inside your head.
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Sounds like MK ULTRA the CIA were working on mind conrtol years ago, I think one of the rumours about JFK's killer/killers was they were brainwashed by the CIA

Matt_RFC {Ed033's Note - You may mean RFK, Robert F. Kennedy's alleged assassin, Sirhan Sirhan was mind controlled.
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Come on guys, as much i love science fiction and like to ocasionally read a good Conspiracy Theory but Bugs, mind control, sound waves to mind control??
that sounds and is very far fetched, there is a lot of unawnswered questions in this world, some have extremely easy explanations and some because of their difficulty we create theories for them, some may actually be the truth, but some i'm sure you realize that is our extremely questionable mind that throwns you fantasies.
Aliens, i'm almost sure they exist, in this vast universe it would be a completely waste of space, and also extremely ignorant of ourselves to think we are the only ones, but wether they are among us or actually been on earth is something we will only know when they actually either reveal themselves or actually do get here to visit.
I'm not trying to bash your theories but some of them sound more like you guys having a vivid and healthy imagination.

Mayor

{Ed033's Note - mind control is not a theory it is fact. You need to get up to speed.
If you want to get yourself up to speed quickly go to:

http://www.richplanet.net/starship.php

scroll to the bottom and watch all the video interviews
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Discussion #1253Talk Sense

06 Jul 2012 12:58:19
this is a a related post about the girl who claimed she was possessed and stabbed and killed a school girl last summer,my mate has a high position in a mental health hospital and he is a sceptic in fact i tell him about this site and he just laughs, anyway threw out the years he has told me about people claiming that something is taking them or going to kill them,he reckons about 95 per cent of cases are threw drug related or depression issues , the 5 per cent of cases he finds weird and he thinks they are just nuts basically,a few cases were a woman claimed she wanted to die because she was terrorised by the devil and has tried to kill herself numerous of times to a man who claims he goes on journeys in the sky and cant take any more ,they all get sedated and restrained if it gets bad then logged on the computer
,but the strangest case i have been told is(i wont mention any names or places)a overseas male was admitted (which is normal sometimes) but in this case the man worked for the government of he"s country he was well spoken and very very intelligent ,not a normal case my mate said,anyway this man claimed he was being followed by men and strange phone calls were made to him, anything connected with he"s job and there was odd things happening to him anyway to cut a long story short it affected he"s private life and lost or was made to step down(not sure) anyway he was there a few days then when my mate started work he was gone,he asked the staff nurse that worked the night shift were was mr x,he said a few men in suits with documents took mr x,so by law if a patient admitted in to a mental health hospital has to have proof when they leave that they are going to another hospital or a relative or anywhere for legal reasons(in case the nhs get sued) nothing, my mate told he"s boss who interned got in touch with a top nhs manager who done a few checks and said its ok he has gone to a private mental hospital which is plausible my mate said but its very very strange and has never happened in he"s 25 years working in the mental health profession,anyway my point is prob 2 per cent demons/abductions/government agencies stories are being classed as nutcases or psychopaths.
frankyscouse

 

Read about the old lady who was travelling in a car with four of her relatives and a few pedestrians who got radiation burns and sickness when a bell shaped UFO flew over where they were travelling.
A similar thing happened to this old gal who was admitted to a normal hospital then referred to a specialist unit where a doctor was seeing to her.Anyway a short time after being admitted the doctor says men in suits came with paperwork and took her away.Then he asked to see which hospital it was and the paperwork transfer (done between all hospitals ie sending medical records) had been wiped or not even sent.He said in his entire career this has never happened he said sure sometimes misplaced but never untraceable.
Anyway this lady eventually died from her injuries which were well documented by family members who say she was placed in a weird building not a hospital but like a segregation sort of thing.
Other family members were pretty bad as well with radiation sickness and townspeople said that black trucks suddenly came in the night and retarmacced the road where scorch marks had been left.
this was later confirmed through core samples taken by their local council authority who hit a brick wall when trying to find out who had been authorised to just tarmac their roads.
Ever since this doctor starting to leak out pictures he took he says people have been buging his phone make of it what you will but pretty weird.

does anyone else heard about this it was a pretty big story when released.

Kopping a feel
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I have read that or a similar case, i think the case i read happened in the late 70s or early 80s and a a young boy was in the car with relatives.
frankyscouse
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This bloke I was working with few years ago mentioned when he was younger, there were 13 kids in his family so his mum & dad could only send one of them to grammer school so his older brother got packed off to this posh school became fluent speaker in german got a job workin for the government got shipped off to germany to spy on the german war machine & report back his findings, on returning to England he divulged all his info that the germans were actually well armed & quite powerful, on hearing this the government shipped him off home, whilst on his journey home he was arrested at Lime street station for crimes against the nation & was banged up in solitary confinement in Walton so he couldn't speak to anyone & was classed as clinically insane, so this sort of cover up has been going on for years.....CM68
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Wow even for my imagination this is a bit too deep,but entertaining none the less

red blancmonge
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Ha cheers edd love this site.would'nt be here other wise..

red blancmonge {Ed033's Note - great, glad you like the site
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