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14 Feb 2012 19:46:14
Has anyone ever heard of the 0 point research (extracting hydrogen from water for free energy) ? Scientists were apparently offered huge sums to stop the research from saudis etc as it would have changed the world from a financial point of view. Some scientists were poisoned and some had heart attacks. Its been arround for a while I gather but Ive just stumbled on it. It would make sense that anyone enjoying the wealth fossil fuels brings certain people would want work like this being stopped.

Matt_RFC

14 Feb 2012 18:48:25
16.The Business Plot:In 1933, group of wealthy businessmen that allegedly included the heads of Chase Bank, GM, Goodyear, Standard Oil, the DuPont family and Senator Prescott Bush tried to recruit Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler to lead a military coup against President FDR and install a fascist dictatorship in the United States. And yes, we're talking about the same Prescott Bush who fathered one US President and grandfathered another one.Smedley Butler was both a patriot and a vocal FDR supporter. Apparently none of these criminal masterminds noticed that their prospective point man had actively stumped for FDR in 1932.Smedley spilled the beans to a congressional committee in 1934.

Everyone he accused of being a conspirator vehemently denied it, and none of them were brought up on criminal charges. Still, the House McCormack-Dickstein Committee did at least acknowledge the existence of the conspiracy, which ended up never getting past the initial planning stages.Though many of the people who had allegedly backed the Business Plot also maintained financial ties with Nazi Germany up through America's entry into World War II. In 1934, the Business Plot was publicly revealed by retired Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler testifying to the McCormack-Dickstein Congressional Committee. In his testimony, Butler claimed that a group of men had approached him as part of a plot to overthrow Roosevelt in a military coup. One of the alleged plotters, Gerald MacGuire, vehemently denied any such plot. In their final report, the Congressional committee supported Butler's allegations of the existence of the plot, but no prosecutions or further investigations followed, and the matter was mostly forgotten.

On July 17, 1932, thousands of World War I veterans converged on Washington, D.C., set up tent camps, and demanded immediate payment of bonuses due them according to the Adjusted Service Certificate Law of 1924. This "Bonus Army" was led by Walter W. Waters, a former Army sergeant. The Army was encouraged by an appearance from retired Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler, who had considerable influence over the veterans, being one of the most popular military figures of the time. A few days after Butler's arrival, President Herbert Hoover ordered the marchers removed, and their camps were destroyed by US Army cavalry troops under the command of General Douglas MacArthur.

Butler, although a self-described Republican, responded by supporting Roosevelt in that year's election. In a 1995 History Today article Clayton Cramer argued that the devastation of the Great Depression had caused many Americans to question the foundations of liberal democracy. "Many traditionalists, here and in Europe, toyed with the ideas of Fascism and National Socialism; many liberals dallied with Socialism and Communism." Cramer argues that this explains why some American business leaders viewed fascism as a viable system to both preserve their interests and end the economic woes of the Depression.
the truth is weirder than fiction.
frankyscouse

14 Feb 2012 17:42:39
{Ed033's Note - Michael Tellinger - 200 Million Year Old Giant Human Footprint?

14 Feb 2012 15:29:23
someone the other week had the interesting theory of the yanks blowing up the enterprise in the gulf to blame the iranians. Enterprise being a bit old and no loss. But today the abraham lincoln passed the straits of hormuz and as thats a bit more of a recent ship so wondering what people think will happen now.

14 Feb 2012 01:34:56
do you think tupac shakur is dead or still alive sorry ed if this has been asked before ive only just recently found this site keep up the good work. cheers
rapper. {Ed001's Note - personally I think he is dead.}

13 Feb 2012 23:03:14
strange pic this edd .

uk.news.yahoo.com/amazing-%E2%80%98tsunami-cloud%E2%80%99-hits-florida-coastline.html

frankyscouse

13 Feb 2012 23:22:43
itv4 movie called soldiers on now, based on mk ultra, looks good
frankyscouse {Ed001's Note - which one is that? Mario van Peebles?}

13 Feb 2012 16:54:01
Although this too is a football issue, and to all intents and purposes this should be put to bed and forgotten about, I have thought long and hard and feel I should put the following opinion out there...

Regarding the media treatment of the Evra/Suarez debacle. Does anyone agree that the mainstream, sensationalist UK media is constantly giving this issue legs because of the ordered release of Government papers regarding the Hillsborough disaster?

By vilifying Liverpool FC so aggressively on a daily basis, are they trying to soften the impact that the eventual release of this information will have upon themselves? By trying to demonise Liverpool, it's players, the manager, and trying to get every bit of mud to stick, come the day that the papers become public, are they trying to back the club into a corner so that the attention is somehow diverted when Liverpool FC, the families who lost loved ones, and the fans eventually get their day to speak out?

It was passed back in October 2011 following heavy petitioning that these papers should be released uncensored. This will put journalists, also current and former government ministers in the spotlight, especially seeing as these documents must be sensitive as they have been kept secret for nearly 23 years.

By making Liverpool FC appear to be "complaining unjustly against everything", this approach by the media (and the people it serves to protect) may be intended to unseat the eventual public outcry, thus making people not pay as much attention as they should, giving sparse coverage when the time arrives, and sweeping it under the carpet quickly to avoid a backlash on the government and the media themselves.

Calculated pre-emptive arse covering? Or am I reading too much into it?

13 Feb 2012 15:47:49
I hope this might get posted Ed on this page as although it's a football issue, but it would'nt be posted on the page I'm usually on.
I'm going to apologise again for bringing it up (again) the subject regarding currently the worlds best footballer. I'm looking for a bit of clarity on the issue.
Take a young player we have with an outstanding potential say like Mats Moller Daehli. Apparently he is maybe lacking physically but he's still young and will obviously grow. We took him at I think 15 yrs old. If we thought that he would not be up to the rigours of Premiership football would we be able to give him medication to help with his "growth" say HGH for instance for a couple of years (I don't know how the stuff works but let's pretend for arguments sake) that's it's for bulking up/training purpose's.
Would this be legally ok if it were in the past before a professional football career.
I know the odd young player who although skilful enough at a young age was not deemed robust or too "lightweight", I'm sure a few on this site might know of a certain person they knew of personally or even current player. Sebastian Giovinco's career has been hampered by his size and is knocked off the ball too easily and would be left out of the side (juventus at the time) because of it. For this reason if he took the required amount of HGH to enable him to bulk up and gain more growth earlier is that legal? I think personally, no!
Now before people say that I'm bitter or Messi really needed it for a normal life, Barca have seen an outstanding talent playing football at a young age with other players during I presume boy's matches and taken this course, no questions asked. I bet he was'nt playing with leg braces or on crutches like a Tiny Tim character. He has been shipped from Argentina to Spain at a very young age and had medication to help with his growth. Should'nt he of been allowed to grow without medication as a natural selection process and if he were too small then so be it?
I know we would be worse off if we had not seen him play but that's not my point.
Is it legally/ethically ok for our club or other's to do the same when deciding on a player's potential physic?
I would of thought it help's Blatter and FIFA for revenue, to have 1 outstanding club & player of very high performance/profile against revenue going to other sports, is just a part of my opinion on why it will be skimmed over if anybody seriously delves deeper.
Sorry about the long post but needed to give example's.
Would love anybody's/Ed's opinion's again if possible, and I will try not to bring it up again.

Supasub {Ed001's Note - it is a tough one, I am really unsure of the legalities involved, certainly Messi took growth hormones that are banned prior to becoming a pro. I am not sure where the line is drawn though, so will have to leave that to others to have some input.}

12 Feb 2012 09:05:09
Can i ask what peoples views are on this lake in Antartica, Vostok, odd.....

{Ed033's Note - A large magnetic anomaly is there possibly meaning there is something non-natural there such as a buried city under the ice?

11 Feb 2012 11:17:34
Hi all. I had allways thought of Holocaust denial to be hate of jews. Recently I read some scientific evidence that stated why it couldnt have been done (walls werent blue, chimneys would have killed surrounding people, people moving boidies would have been killed, ariel recon photos etc etc... ) knowing as I do these days about the corruption of the super elite its made me wonder if it was at all possibe that it was made up or at least very over exagerated ? Just wandered what peoples honest thoughts were on this touchy subject ?


Matt_RFC

10 Feb 2012 17:35:11
Obama is 8th Cousins with Dick Cheney and 9th Cousins with Brad Pitt. He is descended from 6 other US Presidents, and he and his wife are members of the globalist CFR secret society working toward world government. Did you hear Hilary Clinton is related to Madonna, Celine Dion, Alanis Morrisette, and Angelina Jolie? Jolie works for the UN and is in the CFR as well. It's all in the (royal) family, every us president elected are related to british or french bloodlines,even the opisition are related to each other, George W. Bush himself is directly related to 16 former U.S. presidents including George Washington, Millard Fillmore, Franklin Pierce, Abraham Lincoln, Ulysses Grant, Rutherford B. Hayes, James Garfield, Grover Cleveland, Teddy Roosevelt, William H. Taft, Calvin Coolidge, Herbert Hoover, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Richard Nixon, and Gerald Ford.so in all that time it has been ruled by europe, so much for the land of the free.
Frankyscouse