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Discussion #736Talk Sense

08 Jan 2012 22:10:30
check this out 9/11 debate its very interesting you have a ex mi5 annie machon and some other guy thinking its an inside job on the other side its a american journo and nick pope which has disappointed me as i thought pope was a feller who wanted the truth out, in reality he is a puppet on a string.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD-9cDigUN4&feature=related

frankyscouse

{Ed033's Note - nick pope is still working for a government agency. It was obvious when he first came out that he was still working for them. I don't know why people bother with him on alternative info radio shows or alternative info conferences etc. Just so obvious he's a government agency tool still promulgating the government agency lines/lies.

 

Well edd when i first got into the ufo stuff in the 1990s when pope came out and i thought at the time he was the skully(x files) in that he was saying 99per cent of sightings were x plained and without saying aliens exsisted he was saying something can not be explained,but its more evedent to see hes on the payroll when he gets involved in 7/7 london and 9/11 and how he trys to justify its al queda, it makes me sick he is a goverment propiganda tool, as for shayler who dresses up as a woman now, hes ex annie machon says in the interveiw its normal for people who go against the goverment turn weird,jesus christ this is a f king disgrace.
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Discussion #735Talk Sense

08 Jan 2012 19:11:22
Hi Eds know Jay Z and Beyonce's baby will be named "Blue Ivy", but is there some sort of subliminal message in this? Here's a few theories from the rest of the internet...

Spelt backwards it's "Eulb Yvi", Latin for "Lucifers daughter", meaning devils daughter. I saw this, but i can't interpret latin, maybe you could help out?

I.V.Y = Illuminati's Very Youngest
B.L.U.E = Born Living Under Evil.

Do you think it's just a coincidence or is there thought put into this? Stuff these people do doesn't surprise me anymore, so I would believe something like this.

What do you think?
(Any others with views feel free to share them)

{Ed033's Note - These people do some weird stuff yes. Just look at the Obama "Yes We Can". When played backwards sounds something like "Thank you satan"

but anyone can make up what Blue and Ivy could stand for.

Obama - Yes We Can = Thank You Satan

 

This is on top of the recent studies that Rihanna is part of the illuminati also as one of her recent music videos if you pause it at an exact moment it shows the iconic symbol of triangle & eyes this has also occurred in several Lady Gaga videos, it seems to be trending...Satanism is bearing its ugly head once again it seems, consequently to this many people who 'worship' pop idols such as these may catch wind and follow them into the illuminati.

DSJ
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In relation to my previous post where i said about a rihanna video:
Rihanna: Umbrella (2007)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvBfHwUxHIk&ob=av2n

approx 2:30
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Because she's sat in a triangle she's part of the illuminati? so any music video where someone uses a triangle (pyramid), circle (eye) or square (mason symbol) they must be part of the nwo?
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This video is outrageous! And Rihanna a part of the illuminati? Ludicrous! It's videos like this that ruin other conspiracy 'theories' and take away their credibility.
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Video is a fake, utter tosh made by some god fearing right wing republican.
Mbhoy
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Discussion #734Talk Sense

08 Jan 2012 12:58:45
Hindu gods are Blue. Could these be ETs? If you look at your veins they are blue, could it be the earths rich oxygen atmosphe turned these beings blue? If you look at their tech and the stories, then it makes sence that they are actually ETs!

 

Oh and also, listen to the rewinds WITHOUT watching the words on the screen. Can you make any sense of it?
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Discussion #733Talk Sense

08 Jan 2012 12:57:02
Has anyone ever noticed that a giant asteriod belt surrounds our sola system? Is it there to keep things out or us in? What if we are here to protect us? Or we are here as a punishment? Could be mankind has been outcast for some form of crime a placed on a planet to ensure that we stay dumb?

Toonal

 

Or it could just be natural, we really don't know enough about our solar system or extra solar systems to really say one way or another. I think there would be other ways of doing it though, if it was to keep us in.

{Ed033's Note - The below documentary from the Electric Universe crew (thunderbolts.info), I found to be extremely interesting but parts 1 and 2 are tough going for new people to the Electric Universe theories. If you get to part 4 you might carry on to part 6.
David Talbott Symbols of an Alien Sky. 1/6

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Ok that was interesting, thought i knew where is was going at the start, seemed very similar to the Graham Hancock sort of stuff, then went off on a bit of an unexpected tangent but certainly interesting. Will make sure i catch the rest over the week.
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Ah just found them Ed no worries
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Discussion #732Talk Sense

08 Jan 2012 11:40:54
new poster here sry if this is mentioned before

i read in some magazine that in the future there would only be women born some chromosome problem they say,do you know anything about that?

 

I thought it was to do with estrogen (spelling) and that it couldn't be broken down therefore it is in the water supply which is making females becoming the stronger birth rate
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I heard about this on some animal program,
in a certain species of lizard there is only females and they "fake-mate" and produce like clones of themselves...

the guys on the program said there is less males being produced in the world these days..
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My first thought was nah, then i thought about all the maternities at work over the last 7 years and its something 7:1 ratio, then look at all the recent celebrity births, again more girls......Mort
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Um... No! figures for birth ratios around the world:

www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2018.html

All have more male to female births. {Ed001's Note - all do? Despite NZ having a population which is predominantly female? Hence the reason I always wanted to emigrate there.}
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Does it Ed? Damn whats the immigration criteria, i bet its as strict as Oz? Any nasty creatures down there to avoid?

{Ed033's Note - It maybe strict but as far as nasty creatures, I think New Zealand is similar to this country with not many. China have their eyes on Oceania though. i.e. to take control over at some point in the future but doesn't mean they will.
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Discussion #731Talk Sense

07 Jan 2012 12:32:06
Hi all, My father in law served as a P.O for over 20 years on the destroyers in the Royal Navy also covering the falklands war. He's told me in the past of a peice of equipment that they could use similar to google earth now, but as far as I know it was live. Bearing in mind we're talking about the early 80's to early 90's he went on to amusingly mention that sometimes they would use it to see if anyone was coming or going from their own homes visiting their wives. He had heard & believed that back then there was the technology to read a book over someone's shoulder from space. I've heard before something like this relating possibly to the "Star Wars" programme.
My question's are: if that was going on back then? What tachnology is there being used now? Possible super surveillence audio/visual without the need for human spies. Do you know anything on this Ed(s)?

Supasub

{Ed033's Note - I have heard this and this is why the whole nonsense of not being able to find bin laden for years was so laughable. The kind of technology that we have is way beyond what people in general think we have and all the people really need at this point is for the people to be allowed a super cheap energy system.

 

I remember reading a Fred Forsyth book years ago, think it was early 80's, and there was a whole bit on the satellites and how the yanks could spot a gaf packet on the ground from space so 30 years later and given the advances in technology since then, then they could have god knows what floating up there.

Regards OBL, think we've gone over it before but lets just say that they kept him on ice till they needed him. Kinda convenient that they "got" him as the 10th anniversary appreaoched and BO was on a slump in the polls....
Mort
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Mort i think osama died many years ago,the lookalike they killed was prob placed there.
frankyscouse
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Personally i think osama was working with the cia when the freedom fighters were around and then after that they would do shady arms deals to make profit and build this notorious image around the man so war is viable but then i guess america decided to cut ties before anything got out, did you see where he was living? House was big quite heavily secured and not far from army bases its almost like they let him live there, its got signs of coruption all over it
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Franky thats what i meant. He was just kept on ice till they needed to use his death for something. Convenient that it was approaching the 10th anniversary.

Bit like JFK saying in 1961 by the end of the decade we will have a man on the moon and they achieve IT with just 5 months to go. (if they did achieve, but i'm hinting they didn't)

So no i think just for those reasons that they already knew what had happened to him, hence nobody, no photo's, not even a dna swab.

Mort
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Totally agree mort.
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Discussion #730Talk Sense

07 Jan 2012 13:50:34
Hi Ed I'm a 1st time newbie and just want to say a few things(long winded but bear with me).
I started to awaken several yrs ago when I watched a program on the Iluminatti. Since then I have gained a somewhat limited understanding of things that those who are still asleep are not aware of. Project Bluebook, Project Camelot, HAARP, Pyramids in Europe, Mars and the Moon, Helium 3. It goes on and on. Once I started I just kept on discovering new stuff.
How much do moviemakers know? When I see programs/films such as Stargate, V, they mention or make reference to things which on the face of it to the average sci-fi geek(like I was) seem wonderful. Zero Point Modules(virtually limitless power) are mentioned which I've recently discovered can/do exist. Yes people can actually create free limitless energy out of dark matter or dark energy.
We are being dumbed down deliberately and it's all about power and money. Our science is WRONG, our history is WRONG.
Everything I have read leads me to believe something massive is going to happen sooner rather than later. It doesn't look good for us.
My sister who coincidentally is heavily into conspiracy theory has been preparing for a number of yrs. I don't know where this will get her because the general consensus seems to think the safest place to be of all places will be the middle east particularly Iran and that region.
People think that the west invades Iraq etc for the oil but it is purely locational as the location was originally Sumer and Mesophatamia.
I've been brought up as a Christian. My mother was heavily into the church. As a teenager I stopped going because I HATED it! But now I am worried, no that's the wrong word I'm SCARED of what is to come.
One thing I can say I will not take the Mark of the Beast.
Ed sorry to witter on but a quick question for you. What percentage of the world's population do you think are aware of what is truly going on? Generally people seem more aware of a NWO and the like. Do you think it could ever be overthrown?

{Ed033's Note - To me, just thinking that something is wrong is not being "awake". I think being "awake" is actively seeking out what's going on and seeking the solutions. I think the percentage of people that are "awake" is a tiny fraction of 1 percent of the population. It has been worked out that we would require 2 percent of the population being "awake" to overthrow them as 2 percent would be speaking about what is going on and the solutions at work, in the pub and when people visit each other.}

 

So what do we need to do to enlighten other people to get to that 2% mark. Human nature is to err on the side of caution. If things don't bother or directly influence us or our 'comforts' then we're not bothered by those things and are so less willing to do anything about it.

NoneTheWiser.

{Ed033's Note - That is the question, but it appears that no one has the answer to how to wake up 2 percent of the population. The answer maybe that they have to wake themselves up by becoming uncomfortable under the NWO agenda.}
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My take on awaken peopl and make them question things is simple ,go on a socail network site like facebook and on your wall post links like the edds on here,even if 1 person looks at the link and it makes them think it worth it,that 1 person could tell 1 of there freinds and so on, dont get me wrong some of my mates take the pi __ out of me but i dont care.
frankyscouse
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Frankyscouse i know what its like if we can get atleast 1 person to realise then we have done somthing very good how much do friends take the p though! Knowledge is power but some people will never learn
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Its happening but slowly, this site has only been going for a few months and look how many use it. There are a few of us regular and the eds must have an idea of the traffic. Mort
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Good point mort,edd out of interest since you started the conspiracy site have you noticed a increase of people ?
frankyscouse

{Ed033's Note - Only a small increase. We'll have to wait and see next year.
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Discussion #729Talk Sense

07 Jan 2012 04:00:06
Stumbled on this about an ex-illuminati member, svali, part 1 to 9.
frankyscouse

 

If he's ex-illuminati we wouldn't be speaking to anybody he'd be in the foundations of a supermarket.

Sooty
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Svali is a She.
frankyscouse
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Oops he he he {Ed033's Note - I suppose if the poster saying Svali was a he had listened to the 9 minute video this mistake wouldn't have happened.}
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Discussion #728Talk Sense

06 Jan 2012 22:22:23
ed, is it true that in march the house of commons are to debate a compulsory id card for everyone? surely that would infringe our human rights, especially if they are to be chipped so that big brother knows where we are at all times. before anyone says microchips are now implanted in all newborns dont as its a load of squit. however i do firmly believe there is life on other planets. how can there not be with the trillions of planets out there. not sure if we have been visited tho as i understand it would defy the laws of physics.

{Ed033's Note - I don't know but The NWO crowd have put down in writing that they want their "New World Order" to be in place by 2025 so they need to get a move on. They will probably use the stepping stones technique of 1 step at a time as usual and also it's done with public consent by starting off by doing something like not allowing people into government buildings without an ID card and then it leads to not allowing anyone into any building without an ID card.

Of course it's an infringement on our human rights but virtually everyone will go along with it and if/when it gets to the stage where you can't buy anything without an ID card, everyone will then by their own consent carry an ID card. After that they want the cashless society where all the money is stored on the ID card chip or equivalent so if they want to fine you or tax you or take any money from you at any time, you can't stop them and if they don't like you, they turn off your chip and you are completely reliant on someone else with a chip to look after you

 

Thanx ed, i do realise that it is hard to work for or to have access to govt buildings etc. also how its almost impossible to live without id, even if its [only] a drivers license. im actually aware of the nwo, not to be confused with 'the five' and their organisation which is behind the people behind ALL of the world leaders but would like more info on the nwo. any suggestions? not the theory but the policies and ultimate goal.

{Ed033's Note - What I put above is not theory. Part of the overall policy is to have a cashless society with all money on a chip and to turn off the chip if you're not a good citizen that submits to the NWO. There are lots of parts to the overall policy/goal. There is an intermediate plan to fuse Africa with the European Union to let millions of Africans into the European Union as cheap labour. There is a policy to reduce the world's population to 500 million. I don't have 1 exact source for the overall agenda / policies. The below video maybe useful for other visitors to this page.
Aaron Russo interview who was told before 9/11 of plans to stage terror attacks, invade countries, and start a police state by tracking people with implantable RFID microchips.

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I think our goverment labour and conserivitive have been told to allow imigrants in to our country for years,remember the uk is a island and should be very hard to get in to,but by allowing say in the 50s/60/7080/90/etc west indians/indians/pakistans/polish you get my drift its created a tension were i have a mate who"s dad is jamican and he cant stand people from somalia, but the big picture is we find out say a muslim from peckham who lives in a 6 bedroom house at the taxpayers cost on benifits with family who are not supposed to be here and it makes the headlines of the bulls t press and of course it gets everyone up in arms were we want stricter control and how do we get stricter control?of course you guessed it some sort of id card card,who ever creates the problem nwo/goverment lets us think its our idea when in reality its been planned for years.
frankyscouse
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If by doing this it is their plan to create tension between the people then it works, because after some of the stories ive read i was bloody fuming.

JWalk
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Discussion #727Talk Sense

06 Jan 2012 16:26:41
ed,whats your opinion about the so called plane hitting the pentagon and the other plane(flight 93 i think)which came down after passengers seemingly overpowered the hijackers?bash {Ed001's Note - the one hitting the Pentagon is a complete and utter joke. It is clear to see that it was not a plane, the few parts scattered outside weren't even from the correct plane, the hole was too small and where did it all vanish too? Then there is the question of how a plane would be able to fly into the world's most heavily defended piece of airspace while the whole country was on red alert. I am not sure about the other one, it still seems likely the plane was shot down, rather than crashed.}

 

{Ed033's Note - 9/11 In Plane Sight - Directors Cut documentary from The Power Hour

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Totally agree on both of your opinions ed,didnt the fbi/cia confiscate all footage from gas stations,hotels etc within the vicinity of the pentagon also?yet all we saw was footage from the pentagons own security camera which never actually showed anything.im sure i read somewhere that police officers actually saw a fighter jet chasing the other plane that came down.
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That section of the pentagon which was usually very very busy was told to evacuate all people from the section that was hit...Very suspicious

MJ
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There are photos available to all that show the building before the side collapsed. Windows either side of the hole are intact where the wings would have impacted. Then theres the wooden cable spools that would have been taken clean out by a 757.

And with all things 9/11, the list goes on and on.

Paragon
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Agree the Pentagon one is very dodgy. I've always said that the 4th plabe was shot down then they concocted this story about passengers fighting back because the American people needed some sort of hero to shore up morale after such a disaster.

"This things stinks more than last weeks diapers"

Mort.
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Discussion #726Talk Sense

06 Jan 2012 13:41:14
the london 2012 olympics was announced just before the london bombings 7/7,is this a big clue as to what will happen in the summer.

 

{Ed033's Note - If you're not clued up on 7/7 then please visit:
Nick Kollerstrom talking about the 7/7 inquest interview one
www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=55&part=1

and watch 7/7 Ripple Effect film below or at www.jforjustice.co.uk/77/

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I can't see what your disagreeing with as 7/7 happened the day after the olympics was announced.7/7 ripple effect is very good as i've seen it before.
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Here's a good 7/7 vid.
Paragon
Ludicrous Diversion,7/7 London Bombings, full length

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The guy that made this vid is nuts and not a muslim, he lives in Ireland and is actually nuts... sorry guys this vid is BS, but the other stuff is good. People tracked him down and found out he has made other films to - unrealted but alays with a fake name.
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Discussion #725Talk Sense

06 Jan 2012 12:28:33
ed, whats you view on scientists trying to bring back extinct animals eg: mammoth and tasmaian tiger?

i think the only animals they should bring back are the ones humans made extinct, but the problem is many scientists believe we were the cause of the mammoths extinction so should we bring that back? because if it was our fault then surely its species deserves to be brought back. {Ed001's Note - I just think it would be better if we stopped messing about with nature so much, we do so much damage to the natural ecosystems by introducing new animals. It is about time we just let nature run its course and tried to protect what has survived this far.}

 

I know what you mean ed, but if we were to blame for these animals disappearing then surely if we could bring them back we should consider it.
wolfs and bears used to roam the Scottish highlands but we killed them off and the deer and fox populations soared, and now there's plans to re-introduce wolfs to balance the food chain. {Ed001's Note - and then people will be wanting to get rid of the wolves when they attack people. We can't win whatever we do, we need to just let nature take its course, and also give nature the space to do so. Replant rainforests etc, let the animals develop naturally in those areas, without human interference.}
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Sould just leave alone, only take what is needed and replant whats taken. Mort
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