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Discussion #50Talk Sense

14 Sep 2011 11:07:42
there are many conspiracies, the biggest one has be the government hiding the fact there is aliens. because the aliens have told the government somthing and that is the world will end on the 21-12-2012 @11am. the reason they wont tell us is because they cant save us all and only have a few spaceships for the illuminati & the gang !!. i think we should all gatecrash area 51!!. what could they do with a milliuon people charging them down!

 

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Discussion #49Talk Sense

14 Sep 2011 08:08:45
so whats the truth with roswell.

 

{Ed033's Note - There was definitely a crash most likely of some type of craft but we don't know whether it was humans in a black technology craft or an extra terrestrial craft }
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Discussion #48Talk Sense

14 Sep 2011 02:41:59
many of the worlds regllions have a lot of truth in them , but maybe its been staring us in the face of were we come form , when it says in the christain bible - let us make man in our image , that could mean we have been upgraded from a more primite state into modern man or just offspring from human form from another solar system , who came here and seeded the planet, heck all this stuff is a bit deep isnt it........lfc

 

Why does god say, our image, our likeness? That to me suggests that there is more than 1 god eg. The Anunnaki theory, as it's well noticed that most stories from the bible are taken from the Sumerian clay tablets. Worth a look into if you've never heard of them before. The story of their creation of man is in the clay tablets as well, the first creation of man they were happy with was named Adama, and there's the story of a place called eedin, which is still there today in modern day Iraq ( ancient Sumeria )

Jay
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Discussion #47Talk Sense

14 Sep 2011 02:34:24
Do you the present governments all around the world play around with feelings and naivety about religion for their own gains?

I think yes. I also think majority of the world's population do not understand the true meaning of religion. I for one thing all religion were based so called pagan beliefs where you worship and pray to nature and mother earth than human forms!its the corrupt human mind that has destroyed this belief.

the present religion in world just cannot hold true with so many people!Its like a company with certain rules set up 100 years ago for 500 employees..the same rules and structure cannot hold true now with the employees increasing proportionally in size!

 

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Discussion #46Talk Sense

14 Sep 2011 00:23:31
to jay first off respect for putting so much time into researching something like that. I will have a look when i have more free time. I do agree that there are a few unexplained things that happened that day, but as you say we will most likely never know. Regards missing camera footage we're most likely never going to see it so can't say a lot. Personally the only thing that happened different that day is regards the fourth plane that crashed in the fields. I do think that one was shot down to prevent further damage but they didn't have the will to admit to giving an order to kill american citizens. So instead we have the whole they fought back as it looks better to americans that at least some went down fighting. Regards the rest i don't think, at least regards new york, it was anything different to what we saw. Any kind of government level conspiracy would be too large, something would come out, look at watergate for example. It couldn't be kept as a secret for long and would be the worst scandel ever. Also looking at the footage from when bush was informed, he wasn't in on it if it was planned. He's not considered intelligent enough to be that good am actor, he was genuinely surprised. I do think people should question things and find the answers to the questions. But i do think too many people would rather cling to a conspiracy because they cannot accept the truth. Or what i believe is the truth. Some of the conspiracy stuff does make you think twice. And some of it is just crazy. Its sifting through it i guess. Maybe something will turn up, like the 911 version of the zapruder film. Anyway keep digging you never know buddy. {Ed033's Note - The 911 version of the zapruder film is all over youtube except there are loads of 911 versions of the zapruder film. There are loads of videos that never got onto the main stream media because it shows a different perspective than the fake official story of what happened with the Twin Towers. How do you demolish 3 Skyscrapers with 2 planes? because that is what happened. }

 

Thanks for the kind words, maybe 1 day the truth will come out. I agree with you about bush! Far too dumb to be in on it. I personally think that THE NEW AMERICAN CENTURY ( rumsfeld, cheney, wolfowitz and 1 other person ) have very dirty hands from that day. Remember the day before 9/11, Rumsfeld was being questioned about 2.3 trillion dollars that was unaccounted for! Also, there is documentation from The New American Century themselves saying that in order for America to gain more economic growth, they'd need a new pearl harbour.  Anyway, remember to believe only what makes sense in your own mind, regardless of what anyone else thinks, we have something special in that we can think and ponder, and to let someone else tell you how to think, would be a waste of that gift.

Peace

Jay
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There is alotof unexplained happenings from that day but to be fair guys the us government have openly admitted, dick cheny himself no less, that the order to shoot planes down was in effect before united93 went down. When it dropped from radar all asumptions were that it had been shot down. most sensible americans would understand if they had. dont take away a few peoples last acts of heroism. cnt believe i used the term sensible americans! ah well. loki99
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Well it would make sense for them to defend themselves after setting up the attack in the first place. What would have been weird is if they saw the plane coming and allowed it to detonate/crash, no? Of course they shot it down.
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Discussion #45Talk Sense

14 Sep 2011 00:09:49
Here's another one for you, Who built the Pyramids? Don't sit their and tell me it was the Egyptians cos thats a load of bull.
1. the job was too big, although I suppose with enough people it could be done, but what makes it impossible in my eye's is......
2. The positioning of them. They don't just resemble the stars positions in the sky, they are spot on to the last Centimeter to do this would take math of the very highest standard. Scientists say we would struggle to do this today......Comments:
Great site ed's...

Sooty

 

With the great pyramid , the real question is what was it used for, some say some sort of weapon , others a power plant , but one thing is for sure it was not a burial tomb , theres a bigger meaning , also interesting its at the centre of our landmass map of the world , whoever builded it was some smart bicklayer .........lfc
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Watch ancient aliens you will understand after. the aliens built the pyramids!!!!!!111
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What is this ancient aliens thing? Where can I find it? Cheers,
Raz
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The history channel, usually Sunday evenings. If not, history channel website or YouTube. Ancient aliens might have it's own page, not sure though. Do some googling. Lol

Jay
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You can find them online at ://wakeup-world.com/ just put http before the link

MickQ {Ed001's Note - I will get this link placed up on the links page ASAP as well.}
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Discussion #44Talk Sense

13 Sep 2011 23:02:41
ed whats your thoughts on everything surrounding the moon as in landings the colour of it etc. DORSET RED {Ed033's Note - Watch Jose Escamilla's film Moon Rising to see the moon in colour + other anomalies here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK-2N4L5rCA&feature=fvsr

Another thing that we all need to comprehend is that there is allegedly a secret space program. The secret space program obviously uses high end black technology and can probably travel throughout the solar system and beyond.

Apollo could have got to the moon in my opinion by using black technology. However it appears that almost all of the astronauts cannot remember what they did on the moon according to Richard Hoagland and Mike Barra's book, Dark Mission; such as Edgar Mitchell who allegedly went to a hypnotherapist twice to uncover memories of his time on the moon because he couldn't remember. However no moon memories were found and the hypnotherapist told Edgar Mitchell that the reason he couldn't find the memories of Edgar Mitchell's time on the moon was because the memories weren't there in the first place.}

 

Yes ive seen that film very interesting indeed.not heard bout the black project space program but i suspect private companies are doing it thus not having to give information under the freedom of information act.DORSET RED
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Discussion #43Talk Sense

13 Sep 2011 22:06:49
Not so much a Conspiracy as a question. Does anybody think time travel is possible.

Sooty

 

According to Physics, yes it's possible. We just don't have the technology yet. However, I don't think travelling backwards is possible.
Easiest way to describe it. Apparently, when you look at a star, you are seeing it tens of thousands of years ago, because even travelling at the speed of light, the star you are looking at is so far away, that's the amount of time the light emitted takes to reach your vision.
Hopefully, we'll see it achieved in our lifetime!
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I agree travelling back in time is not possible, how do I know, because we haven't been visited......or have we...

Sooty {Ed033's Note - According to Andrew D. Basiago, he was involved in project pegasus, a time traveling black project.}
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Did he claim to have come back in time?

Sooty {Ed033's Note - Yes Project Pegasus according to Basiago took people back in time and back. However even if you don't believe Basiago with the time travel info, he has come up with a load of Mars anomalies pictures such as what looks to be a fairly clear picture of a humanoid statue - www.talkconspiracy.co.uk/ar_1.php }
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Discussion #42Talk Sense

13 Sep 2011 21:53:46
A YOUNG Liverpool FC striker was today under investigation by the club after claiming 9/11 was not the work of terrorists.

Reserve team striker Nathan Eccleston, 20, has caused outrage after his posting on Twitter on the 10th anniversary of the atrocity.

In it, he claimed the attacks were "an accident" and that he believed the "Illuminati" – a shadowy society spread across the world – were responsible.

Eccleston, who has so far made nine appearances for the Reds, wrote: "I aint going to say attack don’t let the media make u believe that was terrorist that did it. #O.T.I.S."

OTIS stands for ‘Only The Illuminati Succeed’.

Now senior officials at the US-owned club have told the Manchester-born player he faces an investigation into his posting.

Today, the Tweet had been removed from his site.

An LFC spokesman said: "The club takes this matter extremely seriously and senior club officials have informed Nathan Eccleston that we are undertaking an investigation into the circumstances surrounding these postings and will decide on an appropriate course of action."

Fans were split over the striker’s actions.

Some took to internet message boards to defend him as "only young", saying he was allowed to voice an opinion.

But most slammed him, with some calling for him to never wear the shirt again and others labelling him as "idiotic, misinformed and basically stupid".

Eccleston joined LFC from Bury aged 15 and has spent time out on loan at Huddersfield Town and Charlton Athletic.

He gave up his number 39 shirt from last season’s squad when Craig Bellamy returned to Anfield last month.

Obviously someone didn't read the disclaimer at they'll of the page Ed.

dmedly {Ed001's Note - it's worrying that a player is getting into trouble for expressing an opinion.}

 

Well said Ed. Also just read out your little freestyle battle with Chris Tamworth, and we both think you are a top lad/ladette and he is a bell-end.

This footballer has every right to his opinion, everyone should get off his back.

Raz {Ed001's Note - he is not a bell end to be fair, he just has different beliefs. Everyone is entitled to their own belief, be they Nathan Eccleston or you or me or Chris. Unfortunately it seems you are only allowed to express your opinion if it agrees with what the PC brigade think. I have seen a load of people calling for a boycott of a rapper's record label because they didn't like his lyrics regarding soldiers. I just don't understand why they can't just not buy the record if they object to the lyrics. These days we have to have a witch hunt every time someone doesn't have the same opinion as everyone else.}
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I know, it's gross. Maybe I shouldn't call him a bell end, but I feel that way because of his point blank refusal to fail to accept that someone disagree with him, and then to call them out as childish. Why would you be on a conspiracy site but then be prepared to slam someone for a view that doesn't tally with your own? Kind of like a straight man walking into a gay bar and then complaining that everyone is gay, it makes no sense. {Ed001's Note - good analogy, that was the bit I was struggling with.}
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Discussion #41Talk Sense

13 Sep 2011 20:41:06
The starchild skull is a fascinating find, worth more study's I think, the potential it has is phenomenal. Apparently, it's been scientifficly tested over seven times and the end results are all the same. The father is not of human origin, check it yourself. Lloyd Pye is the man in possession of this wonderful mystery.
To the guy that said it's FACT that Aliens have never visited earth!! If you research all the ancient cultures, eg.. The Sumerians, Egyptians, Hopi, Mayans etc... They all spoke of the Gods ( some called them space brothers ) who came from the sky, who were divine and other worldly. Yes, these COULD just be myth, but to create a myth or a tale, you must have a reference point. Eg.. They must have witnessed something to be able to speak of it, for you can't describe what you have never seen. That's a FACT!
To the other guy who was talkin about 9/11 sayin he'll never be convinced that anything dodgy went on that day. No one here is trying to CONVINCE anyone about anything. We've simply seen so much evidence, that the official story doesn't right with us. Please look at the evidence that's out there yourself, and if you're still happy with what you believe, then fair play to you, as only you can make up your own mind. But here are some things for you to check out.

1. How does a plane that stands 45ft tall leave a 15ft hole in the Pentagon?
2. Why have the FBI/CIA never released the footage that THEY confiscated to prove that it was a plane that hit the Pentagon? ( hundreds of CCTV cameras surround the Pentagon and it's been admitted the footage was taken )
3. How did the BBC manage to report that WTC 7 had collapsed 20mins before it did? With WTC 7 still standing behind the correspondent who was in NY?
4. Pools of molten metal found days after the attack, and thermite seen ( footage ) pouring out one of the WTC's. Jet fuel doesn't burn to temperatures that produces these results, so what did?
5. Police officers and firefighters reporting multiple explosions, and explosions seen as the buildings are coming down. Why would these men of authority and protection of citizens report these explosions if they weren't true?

Check out zeitgeist, 9/11 ripple effect, esoteric agenda, these will lead you to other documentarys/films and fir you to do more of your OWN research my friend, and hopefully put you on the path to truth and unity with OUR brothers and sisters across the globe.

Peace to all

Jay

 

Nope i still aint buying it buddy. More chance of Elvis being behind it.
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You see, you've just read what I've wrote, weighed it up and thought, na. This isnt something i watched on YouTube and went, ok, it's a conspiracy. I've looked at that event for around 4 - 5 years and look at the world today, to me it's obvious. But for you to say for sure in your heart of hearts that it was as was told, then do some serious research. Like I said before, if that's what you believe, then fair play to you, I'd never try and sway anyone into believing anything I say, as I'll probably never know the the full extent of what really happened myself.
Anyway, I wish you all the best mate!

Jay
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For anyone interested in what has gone on in the last 10 years look into the house of saud and the american connection , we all know theres a lot more to these wars we are fighting than the mainstream media tell.........lfc
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Jay I have been reading and watching about the starchild all morning, it is amazing. Little things such as that super-human/unidentifiable 'fibre' that meshed itself throughout the skull- perhaps like when we mesh glass? After all, it was half to a quarter the normal human skull thickness.

It is annoying they do not know what the red residue is - having said that it is not bone marrow, they then have not attempted to identify it yet. Well not from what I have got through so far.
Their theory of potential alien genetic engineering is really interesting.
Mum mentioned a disease when I spoke about the extra row of teeth ready and waiting even though this was an adult head - she mentioned Proteus syndrome... no mention of it so far, even to refute it.

Really interesting reading.

Raz
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So who was the slut that banged an alien {Ed001's Note - why? Do you want her number so you can have a go?}
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Discussion #40Talk Sense

13 Sep 2011 20:40:59
Do you think that there is life on other worlds......Yes/No....if no then look at this.

Just read on the European Space Agency web site....

Number of Stars in Universe :-
10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

Number of those Stars with planets(10%) :-
100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

Number of those planets that could support life(1%):-
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.
That's 1 Million Trillion

So there is more chance of there being life on other worlds than not....

Sooty

 

Nice, Erik Von Daniken speaks of this in his book Chariots of the Gods. A good read and very thought provoking.
I personally believe there are other intelligent beings out there, and I always will. Don't get me wrong, I accept there might not be, but I highly doubt it. Put it this way, if anyone thinks that, in the vastness of the whole Universe, that we're the only ones here, then there maybe something wrong with your way of thinking. The problem is, most people that think we are the only ones, have either been brought up to think like that, or fear being ridiculed for thinking there might be. The funny thing about it is, most of the disbelievers believe in God or some other religious God, without ANY evidence of his/her existence. Just a story from a book, and dedicate their lives to their God. Even funnier than that, ALL religious books talk about God coming from the sky, let's say it's true, where does he live then? Because if these so called religious Gods are real, they have to be living entities, not invisible forces that we can't see. You see, the reason they don't like talk like this, is that, if ANY of the religious Gods are real ( and they might be ) then they must be from another world, which we would have to label them ALIEN as they are not of this world. He ho, just what I think.
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Erik Von Daniken is a hero of mine, his writings about the Pyramids is amazing.

Sooty
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Now with this in mind, if just 0.0001% of these had life that had discovered basic space travel(much the same as us):-
100,000,000,000,000, or 100 thousand billion.
Then if just 1% of these had life which had interstellar travel, i.e. Light speed:- 1,000,000,000,000. and finally if just 1% of these had faster than light travel, i.e. wormhole technology, instantaneous travel.....10,000,000,000
That's ten billion planets capable of visiting us. Then you look at the fact that maybe only 1% of them are capable of finding us, after all its a big arse Universe then we have a grand total of 10,000,000 life forms capable of visiting us. Now do you think no Aliens have visited Earth?......

Sooty
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He's also done great work on the nasca lines. That's a hard one for anyone to try and figure out just what it really is. One things for sure, it can't be a natural phenomena, far too many straight lines. And the depictions that are there ( monkey, man etc.. ) you'd have to be in the sky to see them. So who made them? And who were they made for to appreciate? Daniken is a legend!
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Discussion #39Talk Sense

13 Sep 2011 20:01:46
I think its a conspiracy how i pick my bets and then the bloody idiots do their utmost to screw me over..... {Ed033's Note - How else would they make money out of you? }

 

I know but come on, even paul the octopus would have had no chance
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