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True Ed, they are all middle class posho's who have no idea of what its like to be a working man juggling bills, rent, council tax every month.

Milibands dad was a champagne socialist at Oxford for gods sake. One of those o lets look at the poor people types no doubt.

What has happened to the Labour Party though? Where are all the proper Labour people gone?

There was a only Blunkett and Prescott, Blunkett lovely chap but cos he's disabled he's got no chance, and Prescott sold us down the river to brown nose Blair in exchange for a non job minesterial title and all the perks then sucked up to Brown for a Title and now swans around the Lords, some working class hero he is!

Until Labour can actually get someone decent in charge they will struggle.

All Ed can do is try and suck up to the middle classes, the same ones that dropped Brown and ran back to the Tories. And the rest of them just try and appease the underclass on benefits, sorry but as a working man i'm sick of seeing my 25% of my wages going on keeping the workshy in fags and stella.

Sorry for the rant.

No i just think its a case of they have no desire to see any kind of change in the region.

Or Commies stick together to give the Yanks the finger and abandoning women and children to be murdered by both sides.

Either way the way the UN is set up at the moment is a total shambles, its not fit for purpose and needs a rebuild.

I never got the thing for leccy cars after all what makes the leccy? {Ed001's Note - not just that, but how much damage is done to the environment mining the materials for the batteries?}

I know what you mean,plus mps voting to cut windfarms subsidies makes you think why the hell is this allowed to happen. Frankyscouse {Ed001's Note - somebody is making lots of money out of it, unfortunately it is not me.}

Well edd you know more than most that who ever has shares in crude oil must be a very inportant person and like you said about the rapeseed oil being a alternitive he or she will not have anymore power. Frankyscouse {Ed001's Note - I know, but it is frustrating that most people don't seem to realise that we could just make petrol or diesel from rapeseed oil. After all the whole reason we have fields full of that horrible stuff is because the govt gives farmers subsidies to grow it, which started because of the last oil crisis. Then we hear how oil is running out so we have to switch to electric powered cars, utter nonsense!}

I have no doubt the falkland island people want to be classed as british but if there were no benifits for the uk like like what edd mentioned thatcher grubby dealings and the real possibility that they have located oil the uk would have gave them independce and let them look after themselves. Frankyscouse {Ed001's Note - I will never understand this obsession with crude oil, we can refine things such as rapeseed oil to produce petrol and diesel. It amazes me that we still get this utter nonsense about oil stocks running out etc.}

I'm pretty sure that quote is from gladiator

It's oil and the people want to be British not Argentinian.

Hi edd, i think i have found out the main reason for the military response, like most things oil,they have been pre drilling and have obviously found something here is the link.

www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-19/britain-s-oil-grab-in-falkland-islands-seen-tripling-u-k-reserves-energy.html

frankyscouse

Franky this mess came about cos Labour signed off a load of contracts for the bankers cos they didn't want the mess of having to deal with them.

Now we have the other lot in and they've inherited the mess, and bowed to public pressure.

The thing is its in a contract and as such its legally binding, they are owed that money and are well within their rights to claim it no matter how distasteful it is.

The govt whether Labour or Tory or Monster Raving Loony couldn't just turn round and say no your not having it cos then they'd wind up in court being sued for breach of contract so they have had to rely on public pressure to shame these people into not taking bonuses.

Not an ideal situtaion but what pisses me off is Ed Balls sitting looking smug, half of this is his mess as he was supposed to be the brains at the treasury.

And Milliband is useless the sooner he goes the better, the only problem is i don't see any natural replacement for him so i guess we're stuck with him till he gets annihilated at an election then we have to put up with a Tory majority for 5 years.

Anyone with any suggestions for Labour leader? {Ed001's Note - is it just me that thinks the Millibands are just clones of Tony Bliar? They speak exactly the same, must be the way they are trained to talk.}

It depends on if they do whats said on the tin. If they don't then whats in them.

Maybe someone should swipe some and get them tested.

Maybe it started out in monkey's, got took to a lab, souped up a bit and then released out.

Well Roma had the gladiators and that wasn't a post apocalyptic society, it was just a way of keeping the plebs entertained, can't remember who said it but ran something like "give the mob bread and circuses and you control Rome"

Maybe we are heading back towards that. Reality tv can only go so far but people get bored quick and someone always pushes it that little bit further.

If people want to go on tv and hack each other up into pieces then it'll happen somewhere one day. If you can make money of it someone will do it.

And there are so many formats as we have seen in the movies, just 3 examples: Gladatior, Death Race and Battle Royale.

Imagine a Big Brother set in a massive mansion, with rooms with supplies in, last man standing?

Once the genie is out the bottle then its hard getting it back in.

I sound like i'm in favour, i'm not, just a realist, and i can see in 20 yeras time that maybe such things would be on tv, pay per view of course and massive advertising and sponsorship revenues.

Gladiators were celebrities once and the modern equivalent would be cage fighters/ mma etc. its just taking that to an extreme after all.

I notice a couple of people seem to believe that north sea oil and gas is british even though its clearly in scottish water. They also seem to believe that it was english money that constructed all the oil and gas platforms and refineries how ill informed you are as all these platforms and refineries have been bulit and paid for by private oil companies such as Shell, BP, Mobil, Cheveron, Kerr-Mcgee and Conoco Phillips to name a few. All the money the government has made has come from various types of taxation on these companies. If Maggie Thatcher had half brain she would have set up an oil fund, which is exactly what Norway have done. Hopefully if Scotland gains independence this is what they will do to as there are still massive amounts of oil and gas in the north sea.

Jus wonderin if anyone has seen any of todd standings bigfoot stills n footage ? its intersting 2 say the least

Regardin Aid's & HIV. There is a theory that they are diseases originally found in monkey's which are caught and eaten (raw i think) by africans in certain area's. It's then thought because of this it's originated in africa or where ever else may eat monkey's that it's then spread. I do think that it could still be man-made though and can be passed between animals (or just monkey's) and humans. Knowing what may happen it would'nt take much for a scientist or whoever to travel to africa and inject a few monkey's would it?

Supasub

To the first poster - by the 'minoritys', do you mean people that have sexual intercourse? Because they aren't a minority my friend.

merka

I think its plausable mate, fighting til death for a prize, if the prize is big enough there would be a lot of desperate people interested in doing it, and a lot of people interested in watching it. can only see it happening in a broken/post apoalyptic society though

LIAM

^ i was on about hiv and aids there didnt see the cancer bit anyone got any more info on all this?

Andy jmt

{Ed033's Note - The Strecker Memorandum - aids is man made - the truth about aids according to Dr. Robert Strecker - video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1349285080949254539

Africa i think it started in the 70's the cia created it in a lab as a population control weapon it takes out the minoritys could be the sickest thing ive ever heard this wont be the best info i only know loosly about it but there is a cure but the treatment cost is what keeps the goverments money stable they will not realese the cure while it raking in to much money to lose the cia also engineered the crack so it is very plausible