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I for one believe there are entrances pole to pole through which there is another way of life/another being of this world/planet red blancmonge.

I'd give you independence tomorrow, i don't want to hang on to you.

Have independence run it how you want, but realise you aint getting 100% of the oil.

We'd have our own gas and oil thanks, irish whiskey is better and renewable energy? you mean wind farms that produce ahrdly anything, and that tidal thing your trying to build (who's paying for that incidentally?)

You really need to realise that the economic future for you is bleak, thats why all your best and brightest move south.

But as i said i'd give you freedom tommorrow maybe you could have president blair and have gordon as the financial whizz kid to run things for you.

To the poster above, if we (Scotland) are such a parasite on England why o why do you want to hang on to such a leech?.
I`m glad people like you exist because with your false rhetoric you will speed up our move to run our own country the way we want to.
Ps. We will be generous to you as our neighbour, we will sell you gas, oil, whisky, renewable energy sources (for when your nuclear plants go belly up) and when you have hosepipe bans we will pipe scotish water to your parched wastelands.
pps Im sure India and china will buy oil off us with gold and gas as they do with Iran, bring it on!!

I've got nothing against the scots, lovely people, but you need to rid yourselvs of this idea that you would be financially viable.

As i already stated last night it is english tax payers money that funds free university education in scotland, this is a fact, same with all your other little perks on pensions and health services.

its british north sea oil and gas not scottish, and remember who paid for all the installations.

Yes you have done very well out of it. But you wouldn't as an independent nation.

So your telling me that you wouldn't apply for EU membership? Course you would, but your membership would come at a price. Brussels would want you in the euro, and that would not be good for you. Also if you did get all the north sea revenues, scotland would become one of the largest contributirs to the EU as you would be classed as one of the richest nations. At the moment you do rather well out of the EU. of the 8 billion the UK receives each year most of that goes to scotland. Go independent and you lose that.
I think we should all vote on it because it is a union. a partnership. yes it has become a little one sided but thats only cos your a lame duck economy. but i also think most english people would vote yes so we could have our independence from you.

This current economic crisis we are in is largely the product of 3 scots, Blair, Brown and Darling. oh and the biggest symbol of it is the royal bank of SCOTLAND. incidentally rbs was bailed out by the english tax payer and you'd have to pay us that debt back as well.

Ah ok thanks ed.
JK

What you mean ed?
is it not worth getting?
JK
{Ed033's Note - Yes it is worth getting if you're new to this info. At the time it was published many years ago it was new ground breaking info that not many people knew about but it's old info now.}

I ordered his book yesterday off amazon.
is it any good ed?

JK
{Ed033's Note - Yes it certainly was when he first wrote it.}

I think Scottish independence is just a romantic idea at the moment, both england and scotland will be worse of IMO.

JWalk

Ed, have you seen this, he has some pretty convincing stuff... and most of his points are backed by scientific facts.

JK
{Ed033's Note - Yes, I read Lloyd Pye's book, Everything You Know Is Wrong just after it was published and he was going around radio shows promoting it many years ago and I have watched this video before.}

I'm English and proud,and if the Scots want independence let em have it,they can sort their own currency out,security,armed forces,health care,unemployment benefits..........I think you will find that pretty quickly the north of this island would be human free,apart from Sadmond,so yes away you go but give the English the vote and ask Do you wantscotland in the union.

I am proud to be Scottish but I'm just as proud to be British, I think we should stay united

L

Why do some posters come on here with very little understanding of a subject.
Poster above stating it's the english tax payer that enables free university education, ect ,ect.
Does he not realise that in 1973 britain went cap in hand to the I M F for massive loans, then north sea oil was found the following year, uk government then changed their minds about a loan.
Since then scottish north sea old and gas reserves have funded the refurbishment of britain, not my words, the words of Chancellor of the Exchequer in 1974 Dennis Healy.
Scotland would not have to apply for anything it did not want to!.
Why should any other country vote on the independence of another sovereign state...It would be up to that country alone..
I want Scotland to stand on it's own two feet, why do so many english people turn on us with venom?
There is nothing personal in wanting to run your own country.
Think Scots are starting to wake up to that bunch of self serving cretins in the house of commons, after all they retire on fat pensions then their buddies give them a peerage earning another fat wad.
The only scottish people that have done well out of the union is scottish unionist politicians....

Im scottish and i dont think we should split. We stand taller together, and i have no problems with any of our cousins south of the border. Independence is a nice idea, but in reality, it is as it should be.
Dont get me wrong, i dont agree with britains part in all the shady unjustified war games we take part in, but as a smaller independant nation, we would leave oursevlves very open and fragile.

Peace
Jay
Glasgow

Only the oil doesn't belong to scotland it belongs to britain and it was english money that built the piplelines, rigs and refinery....

Also you have to think on things, at the moment its the english tax payer that enables free university education, better nhs etc etc, you would lose all of that.

Also you would have to apply to join the EU as an independent country and they would force you into the euro which is hardly going to help your economy right now.

Furthermore on an issue that affects the union i believe both english and scottish should vote on it not just the scots. I know plenty of english people would vote yes for independence.

Its the new version of Risk: Illuminati Battle.

I think it would be good move for Scotland but not now. Maybe a few elites are trying to force the issue now so it all goes tits up. Just my opinion

Big D

I posted the question originally to gauge people's opinions. I'm close friends with a fiercely proud Scot who wants to remain part of the UK. In his opinion, this is entirely the wrong time to be mooting a split due to reasons pretty well described above.

As for any NWO, I really don't think they'd be bothered as you, me and the Scots would be swallowed up. Who knows, they might move us all to the south of France, where the weather is a lot better!

I myself am proud 2 be scottish and in think independence should hav been considered years before the financial meltdown, but look what happens 2 small oil rich countries these days, they get framed, they get bombed, they get robbed,, ad much rather stay as part the uk 4 the moment, plus how would scotlands indepecdance affect the nwo one world government styragetegy, cant see them being 2 happy about it if they r planning 4 a one world government, unless ofcourse they have other plans 4 us, like total anihilation, what u guys think ??

Hydrogen fuel cells are coming back. I've seen a prototype of a HFC the size of a lighter, it can charge a laptop 10 times.

Also I know there are some big contracts with BMW or Suzuki going about.