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Reply · · 31 Dec 2011 15:40
I came from the hockey site, but I'm canadian so its basically the same
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Reply · · 31 Dec 2011 15:37
Who's woken up? This is a site where a bunch of football fans come to talk about the random and weird when they've had enough of the football. None of us are likely to be picketing Downing Street at any time. Nothing will ever change because there is always more sheep to compley than those who are "awake"
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Reply · · 31 Dec 2011 15:26
Are you talking Minerva worship here?
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Reply · · 31 Dec 2011 15:08
Sharia law does happen in this country mate,not to the extreme like abroad,the program i watched showed a muslim guy debating what to do when the muslim women claimed her husband punched in her in the face,right guys will prob be to hung over tommorrow to get online,so every1 have a happy new year.
frankyscouse
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Reply · · 31 Dec 2011 14:15
I think it's in the mind, mixture of paranoia, fear and poor eye sight... most ghosts are seen in the dark when our eye sight isn't at it's best.. so a mixture of those things is probably what causes the sightings...
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Reply · · 31 Dec 2011 13:47
Lots of calls for sharia law ? 0.1 % of the population in reality. edl and bnp are beyond stupid, being diverted away from where their frustrations should really be taken out , the established elite (including their beloved royal family.
jr
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Reply · · 31 Dec 2011 13:35
So apart from impugning the integrity of scientists, what are you saying? That you would rather trust the results claimed by the inventor of a treatment, which have never been able to be repeated by any one else testing those claims, than the results found by a host of different oncological studies? Even though antineoplaston therapy is not a "cheap" treatment, but actually one of the most expensive? There is no logic to that.
W.O. {Ed001's Note - no, I was merely saying why it is that people fail to trust the independence of the studies. Hardly impugning the integrity of the scientists to state the truth.}
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Reply · · 31 Dec 2011 13:04
Ed they raked in millions with council tax. As i understand things Manchester city council as an example has 80 million sat in their bank account, yet their threatening to close public services just to try and make political capital out of it.

Maybe if they had wasted less money over the last decade hiring people they didnt need to. How about cutting the tea trolley? or axing mayors who really aren't needed.

I had an internship at my local council for a month whilst on the dole, and it was an eye opener i tell you. {Ed001's Note - I fully agree there is a lot of waste, but that doesn't mean there is enough money, that just means they aren't making the most of what they get.}
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Reply · · 31 Dec 2011 12:51
So they don't treat cancer to make the population more manageable, and yet also suppress cures in order to make more money? Right. Antineoplaston therapy has never had a successful clinical trial, nor have any of the independent trials ever managed to reproduce the claims made by Burzynski. If you don't believe in the scientific method, ie. independent tests and peer-reviewed studies, then you have no business using a your computer, or a phone, or a plane....etc. Its actually pretty low to make people believe in some alternative treatment for cancer when it is essentially nonsense.

W.O {Ed001's Note - independent trials aren't always truly independent, which is why people mistrust their results. After all, it was independent studies that were telling us that margarine was good for us, when in fact it is far from good for us. It just so happened that the funding to conduct the studies came from the same people who manufactured the margarine. Often the so-called independent studies on low cost cures comes from the drug companies with a vested interest in disproving their efficacy. You really can't expect people to believe the final results, even if they are finding the correct results people are naturally going to be suspicious.}
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Reply · · 31 Dec 2011 12:46
True ed, although i understand that there is a scheme for councils to re buy such houses when they come up on the market, so why don't they re buy more of them?

Agreed with Blair, i think he was as bad as Thatcher in many ways. Not least taking us into illegal wars.

I still fail to see what good Blair did for this country. And one of his biggest failing has to be sorting out this lack of housing. {Ed001's Note - the councils simply don't have the funds to buy them up, they have huge budget deficits (another thing to thank Thatcher for!). The worrying thing is that, no matter who we vote for, we end up with Tories in charge. Whether they are pretending to be Labour, Tories themselves, or pretending to be Lib Dems to make a coalition with the Tories. We just can't win!}
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Reply · · 31 Dec 2011 12:34
And when they do repairs you have to get them back 3 or 4 times because they are so incompetant to do it right first time. 4 times we had to have them down to a leaky roof.

Ed i do get where your coming from, but for someone like me there's no way i could buy a brand new house. I earn less than 20k a year (i would love to know where this 25k a year national average comes from) So i'm screwed for getting a mortgage to go buy a house in an area with average house prices of 170k. When i can probably get the council house i've lived in for 25 years at half that. Or find a rich woman.

Also i'd just like to point out that we had 13 years of a Labour govt at a time when councils were raking in massive amounts in council tax. So firstly why didn't Blair or Brown do something about the lack of council housing? And secondly what happened to all the council tax money? {Ed001's Note - I am not saying Labour are any better, because clearly Blair was just a Thatcherite pretending to be Labour. I also understand that it seems like a great deal and the only way of owning a house, but what happens is that the elderly buy the house. They have more than one child, so the house gets sold and the money split and the house is in the hands of a property developer. That is why it is a long term issue.}
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Reply · · 31 Dec 2011 12:34
Maybe we would of exelled as a spieces and it is a "duming down" so we didnt get to advanced fast... To hard to say need to hear it from a E.T
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Reply · · 31 Dec 2011 12:12
Ed there are plenty of council houses, i live in one. I want to buy it cos i think paying rent is just a awaste of money every month, its not going to anything, whereas by owning it i could leave something behind to any future kids.

I know plenty of people on this estate who bought their council houses and they are not in the hands of rich landowners. {Ed001's Note - most council houses were bought and sold on. There are not plenty of them, perhaps you might want to rethink that as my dad's job, until he retired last year, was finding housing for people, due to there being a lack of council housing for them. Councils are having to subsidise private rents, b&bs etc due to not having the money to build new houses, thanks to Thatcher. Paying rent to the council is not a waste, you get repairs etc done for your money, paying rent to a private landlord is a waste.}
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Reply · · 31 Dec 2011 11:55
This is what i mean

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Reply · · 31 Dec 2011 11:53
I think Thatcher had some good ideas but moved far too fast in trying to get them through. Did good in allowing council tennants to buy their own homes.

But she also did a lot of bad as well, could be very vindictive. Hammered the North and the Midlands.

Unions played into her hands though. And the prosperity that brown pissed up the wall had its seeds in Thatcher.

Like any politician there is good and bad, your viewpoint really just depends on what side of the spectrum your from and also on geography.

That said she still managed to win 3 elections on the trot which i think had never bene done before so obviously had the backing. {Ed001's Note - what is good about council tenants buying their homes? All it has done is put them in the hands of rich landowners after the tenants sold them. Now we have no council homes for people to rent, thanks to Thatcher.}
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Reply · · 31 Dec 2011 11:48
Thre have been a lot of calls though from the extreme groups to have sharia law in this country though.

To me thtas something that must never happen, it would create a two tier society, have you seen how these people treat their wives and daughters? It goes against all the fundamental freedoms that we have fought for over the years.
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Reply · · 31 Dec 2011 11:47
When i was at uni i lived in halls. It was rumoured to be an old ayslum but that was just the older guys trying to wind up the newbies. However it had served as dorms and the like before back in the 20's or 30's.

Anyway across the corridor was the bathroom and a toilet, and no matter what the temperature was it was always freezing in there and you could feel something. Like someone was watching you, like someone was there, was really creepy.

So i wouldn't rule anything out.
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Reply · · 31 Dec 2011 11:35
Lolol how bad was she ? Am only 23 so was before my day but I haven't heard anyone say a good word about her ?

I know she's a tory but if the torys are that bad then why are they in power the now ? Ps I know labour made a boo boo a bit

Lenny
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Reply · · 30 Dec 2011 23:35
Tommy johnson the leader of the edl in the uk has thought to have links to the norweigen guy who blew up buildings and shot those kids on that island, then in the usa we had some guy go undercover and when to a white conference were u had a retired navel officer saying the muslims are trying to get sharia law in to usa constution lol and pamela geller (she is the worst one out the lot) alls i can see is two divides and the goverments watching it all unfold.
frankyscouse
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