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Reply · · 15 Nov 2011 21:01
Well if the ET's were to rid the world of these people currently in charge in my opinion they can't come soon enough. But it does seem to be a race of what comes first, either the illuminati reach their goal of totally controlling the world (i do wonder how far away are they now), or they are stopped.

always a red
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Reply · · 15 Nov 2011 21:01
Read and heard a lot of the stuff about sitchins findings not to be as he translated. But a lot of other specialists in the field do translate an awful lot of the same things he did, with only slight differences. Plus, there is a tablet or writing in stone in the British museum of London which mentions a lot of the same stuff sitchin talks about, Anunnaki, the flood etc...
I also agree with ed! Very ease to cast doubt on someone who isn't around any longer to at least try and explain themselves and work.

Don't get me wrong, maybe he wasn't 100% correct on his 30 odd year work in this field, but he at least stumbled across a great alternative story to our being and origin.

Peace

Jay
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Reply · · 15 Nov 2011 18:43
I like that theory ed, of aliens coming back and realizing what a mess the ruling class (illuminati) have made. Sort of like trusting someone to house sit for you and returning to see it on fire. The only problem is what comes next after they're 'removed', would they trust humans again? Sort of fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

IF this was true the powers that be would probably convince the people that the aliens are evil and must be stopped, where in actual fact they may have come to save them.

I'm not saying i completely buy into this but it does make a good story and sort of answers a few question.

always a red

{Ed033's Note - Who's to say that the ETs will show themselves to us but will just quietly remove the ruling class and put a new agenda in place. I obviously don't know how this would actually be done.}
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Reply · · 15 Nov 2011 18:21
What about dolce? That they already deeply embedded here and this crazy hologram invasion being dreamed up. Doubt there's truth in that. Came from the aviator lear even though I kinda liked the guy ..constantine..

{Ed033's Note - It has been rumoured that Project Bluebeam could be used to create a hologram of fake large ET craft in the sky to get people to believe we are being invaded by ET so people will give up any rights / freedoms. It sounds a ludicrous plan by the ruling class to attempt such a thing but Dr. Carol Rosin said that Dr. Werner von Braun told her this was being planned - www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ALLUuvsVkM

Dulce is allegedly a secret underground base where Phil Schneider alleges there was a fight between Alien Greys and Humans - www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbONIQfQmDU
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Reply · · 15 Nov 2011 17:12
The links are on youtube , just put in- micheal heister, sitchin , and - a jewish defector warns america , ed033 , i think heister tryed to debate sitchin for years , he stuided all this for 15 years or so , as much as it pains me to say he looks to be right , you would really have to look at what he says, shows about sitchin to come to a reasonable decision about it , as i say in these matters i find this happens a lot , but its up to everyone to it find out , and make up their own minds............lfc

{Ed033's Note - I'm not saying this michael guy is wrong, I have listened to him before for about 2 hours. All I said is that sitchin channelled the info that has nothing backing it up and we don't know including michael whether the channelled info is correct or not.}
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Reply · · 15 Nov 2011 13:21
{Ed033's note - What really happened to Project Camelot - an interview by Mel Fabregas of the veritas show

www.youtube.com/watch?v=85tlnuxpR40&feature=related
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Reply · · 15 Nov 2011 12:33
Can you give me a link lfc

{Ed033's Note - I have listened to this guy who says zecharia sitchin was a fraud. When sitchin first started talking about this information, a couple of people had a debate with him but always lost because he knew way more than they did on this subject. Obviously now zecharia sitchin is not with us it's easy to say anything about him.

The reason zecharia sitchin said some things that can't be backed up with anything was because he thought that he was channelling information from the entity / group of entities called Enki / EA. He then added this channelled information into his books on the subject. The only question is whether this channelled information is correct or incorrect.}
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Reply · · 15 Nov 2011 11:08
Yes , its a badly acted crank call.

JR
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Reply · · 15 Nov 2011 11:08
I seem to remember that Nobel himself was
involved in the arms industry , which seems
a little odd.

JR
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Reply · · 15 Nov 2011 09:17
Yes thats true i agree with that guy, i think Paul will be a non runner soon. I'm glad Palin is also out of the running, can you imagine her with a finger on the button? I get cold shivers just typing it.

I'm with Ed33 there seems to be some sort of agenda pushing the States down a dark path we can only imagine and speculate. However by extension it will drag us down it as well. We're caught between 2 bad places, the States and the Euro.

Mort.
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Reply · · 15 Nov 2011 08:15
Its a good listen but maybe hes on drugs or somet.......it does give you goosebumps though.....
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Reply · · 15 Nov 2011 08:15
The media's pretty much painted Paul as an old crazy man for wanting an audit for fort knox. The more truth he says the more ridicule he receives. They'll pretty much have him a nonfactor by election time
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Reply · · 14 Nov 2011 23:17
OK, You asked earlier in the post why crime rates are not falling if there are so many cameras. This is because more crime is being recorded as more is being identified by the cameras etc.
So not necessarily more crime, but more crime being recorded.... make sense?
{Ed033's Note - Yes I get you now. My original point included cameras but was not about cameras though. My point is that they want crime otherwise they can't bring in their control grid.}
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Reply · · 14 Nov 2011 22:54
Ed you mention Obama being 'a puppet doing exactly what he's told', who do you reckon it is doing to talking here?

maka
YNWA JFT96
{Ed033's Note - It's a pyramid of people and an agenda. Obama's handlers around him have handlers of themselves. They are all moving each other towards the agenda over a period of time. I don't know who or what is at the top of the pyramid.}
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Reply · · 14 Nov 2011 22:54
No.... more crime is being detected as there are more cameras to detect the crime therefore crime rates will not go down.....logic. {Ed033's Note - I don't get what you're saying.}
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Reply · · 14 Nov 2011 21:50
Surly your answering your own question? Why does crime not go down with more and more cameras? Maybe because there is more detection due to the cameras? Logic.
{Ed033's Note - Where is the logic in that. Surely if there is more detection due to the ca,eras, crime would go down.}
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Reply · · 14 Nov 2011 20:01
I've managed to pick the last 3 winners not counting Clinton so who knows. Just a gut feeling i have, but we'll know more when the Republians have thinned the field a bit. Mort
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Reply · · 14 Nov 2011 19:52
I'm not so sure Ed, i think a lot of people are disappointed in BO.

And i think the Republicans do think this is a good chance to regain control of the white house. i;m sure some Men In Black types could have a chat with Mr Paul and convince its in his best interests and do as he;s told. Would that be a surprise?

Jeez i'm becoming more and more paranoid, i'm turning into Mr Garibaldi.

Mort.
{Ed033's Note - Hopefully you're right Mort.}
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Reply · · 14 Nov 2011 19:43
{Ed033's note - 1996 Two ET's Captured in Varginha, Brazil?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wE-ui97QFI&feature=related
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Reply · · 14 Nov 2011 19:36
{Ed033's note - UFO - The Rendlesham Forest Case - Part 1 of 6

www.youtube.com/watch?v=r35q0KQMXOg&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLF160443226574F34
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