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29 Jun 2016 16:03:44
Franky the issue for the Blairites is finding one who didn't vote for the Iraq war. Its like trying to find a virgin in a maternity ward.

29 Jun 2016 14:59:46
definately Kim, I didn't vote for him, looks shifty all round.

29 Jun 2016 14:46:58
Cameron was playing party politics. Corbyn can't step down now after being told to by a tory. It suits Cameron to have labour infighting.

Electing Khan was a mistake.

29 Jun 2016 14:47:23
When you have NATO
Why would you a European army
Why EU space agencie
Why one currency
Why make laws
(New Roman Empire) just a little more wierd
If it wasn't for farage we would be upto our necks in EU in no time
And no one would have said a word.

29 Jun 2016 14:26:32
Many don't trust Khan at all.

29 Jun 2016 14:41:10
To be honest wrangler I think the days of needing a Gestapo are long gone, msm seems to be doing a pretty good job of keeping the populace in line, the ball slipped out of there hands during brexit, but now they are scrambling with the grasping politicians who are desperate to be heard in a 5 second sound bite to brow beat those who voted leave into back tracking
The lib dems have jumped in with both feet now and farron has promised to hold a referendum on dragging us back in to the eu.
When will they just accept the result, I'm pretty sure the leave voters would have gotten over it by now, had the vote gone the other way.

29 Jun 2016 13:14:21
Corbyn and the whole Labour Party has stabbed people in the back, but people still think they are good. Corbyn did not want to risk his retirement fund, 40 years against EU but aligned with 'Remain'.

My mum till last year was a labour supporter never voted anything else now she will not touch them. I know at least 30 people who want nothing to do with labour, don't matter who is the head puppet.

Leaving EU is best for Britain in long run and for the British people. Who did labour back? Why can Nigel Farage speak out, but Corbyn can't. Because he has his own interest at heart, not the people.

And I forgot to mention Kahn with his first action to get posters of attractive women banned from London.

29 Jun 2016 13:22:55
i would have a better chance than chuka, burnham yes knows the city of liverpool are pro corbyn and you are right he is stuck .
watson was a feller who I voted for last year to be Deputy Leader and I had high hopes for him after his role in the pedo mps scandal,
but he went silent once his own colleges and every other party scolded him .

he is nothing more than a sheep, as for cooper
she voted for the iraq war
she abstained over cuts to the poor
and not forgetting her husband edd balls part of the blair inner circle, she will never get elected .

29 Jun 2016 13:11:22
Exactly Franky. the divide is only going to deepen and get nastier, I have heard talk of an EU army being formed and hastened through with the revelations coming from the Polish leak. perhaps the EU knows that it needs its own Gestapo if you will to crush any opposition or resistance to its plans.

29 Jun 2016 13:06:30
Even Cameron, during PM questions, said to Corbyn along the lines of, 'for god sakes, go.'

29 Jun 2016 12:53:27
Are any of the candidates mentioned for pro Leave or are they all Remain?

29 Jun 2016 12:49:43
Corbyn has already been sent a warning . The shadowy figures controlling Blair will stop at nothing.

29 Jun 2016 12:08:25
Burnham kept out of it because he needs union support for this metro mayor in Liverpool he's positioning himself for. He's figuring its better for him to not be the Blairite candidate for that. Burnham thinks of Burnham. He knows he has slim chance of the leadership and he knows how the coupists have been viewed.

I think we'll see a few sound out the rest of party but drop out for lack of support. The problem for this coup is they've acted without having a figurehead.

Tom Watson is playing the quiet game. Very Richard III waiting for power to be "thrust" upon him.

Eagle has zero chance. Burnham has discussed. Chuka Umunna may try, personally I don't rate him. I still think the best candidate on that side is Yvette Cooper but she's largely kept quiet.

29 Jun 2016 11:53:10
i think there will be only one challenger but like you said there is no stand out contenders,

funny enough the guy who went up against him last time would be the only one who could realistically put up a good fight (andy burnham )
especially after his stock rose over Hillsborough and also he was never the main culprits behind the coo, no doubt he disagrees with corbyn on certain policies, he in my eyes would have been his toughest opponent, but he got my respect by not resigning and kept out of it.

angela eagle is touted to be the challenger but judging by her own constituents she has no chance, they all publicly backed corbyn.

29 Jun 2016 11:28:56
It would have to appear natural causes, stress related to have any chance. Any other way it would look like it is.

29 Jun 2016 11:13:56
I think Franky they might try and get rid of Corbin by any means, just like they did with John Smith. The future is in everyone's hands and if we don't come together it could be a bleak future for the younger generation who have been brainwashed by their phones and tablets.

29 Jun 2016 10:44:09
Corbyn isn't a bad person. He's been badly advised by Seamus Milne, like at the shadow cabinet meeting where Milne's trying to get a photo op and Corbyn says its a bad idea.

The issue is, prior to the referendum, the labour looked more like a protest group than an actual opposition. But how much of that is down to Corbyn not having full control of the party. Largely due to the rebels.

If it comes to a leadership election Corbyn will stand. He will take most of membership in regards to the activists. The key questions is 1. Will the unions continue to support him. 2. Who do the Blairites rally around.

I think Corbyn will take most of the union vote too. I don't see a standout Blairite candidate. Instead it could be 2-3 of them competing which strengthens Corbyn.

Corbyn should therefore win any leadership contest. He then has to take more effective control of the PLP. If they won't back him this time after a second successful leadership election he has to push Cameron for a general election and deselect the disloyal mp's. But that then creates a labour party dominated by one section rather than a wider spectrum.

Could the Blairites form their own party? Possible.

For what its worth I disagree with a lot of Corbyns policies. I think his brand of socialism is unworkable and should be consigned to the past.

However the people deserve a genuine choice at the ballot box rather than the same choice wearing different coloured ties.

29 Jun 2016 10:35:54
wrangler its inevitable once the eu implodes you will see countries turning on each other, definitely a scary thought.

29 Jun 2016 08:20:25
Gotta agree people are in serious denial about this. i'm from Ireland and I was saying this to my mate here who wanted the UK to vote remain. Was telling him about the polish leak on this a few days ago and he wouldn't have any of it, wouldn't even read up on it and just kept saying it was some loony just putting out crap.

Personally I was delighted the UK left but here in Ireland you would nearly get punched for having that view and talking to people about it. it's clear to see why. Irish people didn't want the UK to leave, not because they gave a crap about the UK people but for pure selfish reasons.

The UK is putting itself first and people from the outside just can't see that, its like voting in a general election. people only take a narrow minded view if what's in it for them in the short term as opposed to what's best for the citizens of a country in the long term.

Thank God the UK voted to do what's best for you in the long term and I'm confident that when the EU comes crashing down and there's a scurry out the door that you will have been proved right.

I do think though that a civil war in Europe in the next 10-20 years is inevitable if countries don't back away from the monster that is the EU in its current (and planned) form. Rant over! 😁.

29 Jun 2016 07:42:42
Looked to be a similar size to the Corbyn protests.