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The big earners in vietnam and any other war is corporations, who do you thinks runs america?its not the president he is just the figure head.
Worrying stuff is going on over there with the FEMA camps, buying of arms, the erosion of civil liberties etc.?
i would call that being prepared for what is to happen once the dollar collapses also forgot to mention the tens of thousands of coffins in storage.

America or the US is a corporatocracy. Democracy in the US is a slight of hand, it's an illusion. As long as oil is valued and traded in dollars the US is reasonably safe. But those days are numbered.

Ryan

Franky they were already coming out of the Depression by the late 30's. Sure the war gave them a manufacturing boost but they were getting that anyway from Lend-Lease and didn't need to enter the war militarily. The war gave them a massive technological boost (atomic energy, rockets, jets, microwaves, m&ms) and of course gave them financial and political leadership of the supposed free world courtesy of Bretton Woods.

As for Vietnam i'm not so sure that counts, they wasn't in debt all that much at the start, whereas compared by the end they were massively so. The big earners from Vietnam were the corporations. Lockheed, Bell etc made fortunes off government contracts.

The government lost out financially and politically. The withdrawal and admittance that they couldn't win and the escalations both into Laos and of the bombing campaign cost them support both at home and around the world. Socially speaking it scarred America for 2 generations and its only really in this one that they've come to terms with it.

Admittedly now they've managed to put themselves financially back into the same position as 1931 and this time they can't risk a big global war to generate $$$ as the tech has moved on massively. So they've tried to stick to regional bush wars (no pun intended) instead and it hasn't quite worked.

Worrying stuff is going on over there with the FEMA camps, buying of arms, the erosion of civil liberties etc. But who says the dollar won't recover, nothing is certain in economics. And they've always spied on is people, all governments do and its probably worse in lot of other countries.

I think the other guy just means the secret dudes who runs things haven't finished with project America yet. I tend to view it as a long term experiment, how bad can they let things get before people kick off.

Just because america have survived trying times in the past does not mean]
it will ok in the future, one of the main factors the usa got out of the great depression was ww2 and the same thing in the 60s was the vietnam war, this time its different the usa have been in some type of wars in the middle east since the 1990s and they are trillions and trillions in debt plus you have to be suspicious of a government that puts drones in the sky also invades the privacy of its people add buying 30 years worth of military arms for the there new style police, the dollar is not going to recover its will only get worse, its not if but when.

It looks a interesting movie edd, I will try and get a free stream to watch it tonight.

Nice 1 neil.

Franky read a lot of your posts, believe in the same things mate. neil

20 Oct 2013 18:09:53
Who's to say it will collapse? Its had these problems for years going back to the mid 60's or earlier. Hasn't collapsed yet. And their not all gun toting cowboys, look at the opposition Bush got. I think America is like a corporation, it was set up to produce a set result. It won't be dismantled until that result and its successor is ready. And I think its still a way off.

I do not know mate, part of me thinks a book of that importance would locked away, I need to check up more on it.

20 Oct 2013 17:52:21
Sounds kinda like the force in star wars

Hi first time poster. do u think the book could be real?

No apology necessary Stevie. The diversity is what makes this site enjoyable. I've learnt so much here from the Eds and all the regular posters. I don't know if I can believe your reincarnation theory above, but that doesn't mean I don't like the idea. It would be fantastic you were right :)

All the best pal.

Ryan.

Nice one exotiva and have a great time mate.

To Ryan,
I'm not presenting this ss fact, I'm presenting this as experience.
apologies if it came across differently.
by the way, do you have a man crush on franky?
joking off course. regards Stevie thai
evils beware we're awakening and coming to get you.

The problems in america have been predicted since the 1980s,
one of the reasons why it has not happened sooner is the many wars for oil and colonisation but the collapse of the usa will happen sooner than later, will there be another false flag event?i will say yes, will it make any difference?not really because we are waking up.

No worries mate keep posting.

Hi franky,
I have been reading your posts for a while and find you very interesting.
I believe God isn't a good word to describe what I believe, although I did use the term in my previous response-apologies.
I believe in a creator, a single consciousness that designed everything, but this consciousness is of a much higher dimension than we.
when we die we either move up a level of consciousness, if a good lifestyle is led, or reincarnated to try and learn from past lifes mistakes. in regards to George Harrison, I believe this was his consciousness /soul moving to the next level because off his lifestyle and faith.

also, franky, I believe that karma dictates your reincarnation, bad people may return as an animal or less fortunate person.

people who do well but don't quite make it will return human and in a more fortunate position than previous life.

thanks for the reply franky, pleasure to correspond with.

Evils beware, WE all will be awoken soon.

Cheers mate.

Stevie I watched george harrison documentary and if I am not mistaken he was in to the same stuff as you, like a deep meditation chanting certain words, and his wife said when he was on his death bed just as he died the room literally lit up, I do not know if you meant that is what you meant?for the record I do not believe in a god when we die but I do believe in our souls go to a different place.

Thanks for the responses, I respect everybody's veiws.
will post more soon, but no more on faith.
if anyone is interested in Buddhism this link translates in English the chants, don't like the word prayer or religion as it reminds me of forced church going- sorry,
board. palungjit. org
power to the people evil's beware,
Siddhartha sleeps, but We all will be awakened.
Stevie thai