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To be honest me neither mate, the bits come from mainstream media and that could be lies as well.

i will say the usa could be like the old soviet block or nazi germany.

According to scriptures e. g. the tibetan book of the dead, accounts of OBE/astral traveling and near death experiences, the fourth dimensional fabric is akin to what quantum physicists refer to as quantum state. An energetic potential that responds to stimuli, in the same fashion as exhibited by the observer/observed effect but without spacetime limitations.
Scientists have successfully placed a tiny piece of metal, that could be bended upwards and downwards, in this state. They discovered that it simultaneously inhabited both its extreme positions, in other words it was bent both upwards and downwards at the same time. This was showcased on TED.

I gather once one enters this fourth dimensional potential any thought becomes manifest. It is also considered to be the "place" the energetic body enters after the disposal of the material body. That would also account for all the heaven and hell stories, as what goes in eventually comes out. If that is indeed the case we have better deal with all the destructive ideas one is familiarized with, by watching news and movies, while still here.
The collective thought cloud (akashian records) are located in that fourth dimensional realm as well, which would imply that it is where thoughts live. The theory of memes says that thoughts are conscious. As we define consciousness as the ability to both propagate and evolve, thoughts must indeed be conscious as they meet that criteria.

Having just read Jonathan Livingstone Seagull pea, I would say his adventures are exactly what awaits us once fully immersed in that potential.
Zari

Thats a very good and interesting link mate. Not seen or heard about it before. don't know exactly what to make of it but its very interesting.

I'd like to agree with you franky but I haven't seen what goes on in N. Korea.
Zari

Hi HB, I wouldn't class myself as an authority on the case, however I have followed it from day one. First of all the dogs. You are absolutely right that them 'alerting' to traces in itself does not mean a thing. However, when you put it together with all the known facts and the minute traces of blood found under the tiles then you begin to get a picture. As for the Gaspar statements well, again you are right, sounds very sinister. Nothing ever came of it, surprise surprise. It was enough for the Gaspars to cease all contact. nuff said. For anyone who is interested, I became fascinated with this case the minute KM uttered the words "Please don't hurt her" in her plea to the so called abductor (s). Just didn't sound/ sit right at the time. Instinct. For ANYONE who is interested in this please check out mccannfiles.com Cheers. Please God, the truth will out.

Usa the western version of north korea.

Hb, check this out on mccann case.

http://www.chrisspivey.co.uk/mccann-case-solved-it-were-them-there-cleaners-that-done-it/

Exactly Jonty, I said a similar thing to the wife earlier.

If the McCanns were a couple of "normal, working class people" they'd be vilified for the neglect which ultimately caused this tragedy (for what they have reported, but let's be fair - it might be much worse)

But fortunately for them, they're wealthy, seemingly intelligent people with friends in high places. As a result, rather than asking all the right questions, the vast majority of people have ignored the facts and are actually donating money to their fund!

Personally, I don't know what I believe, but refuse to exclude anything.

If you watch most of these horrid instances the Police know straight away if it was someone close to the family by how those who close behave in press conferences etc. that’s one of the reasons they get them in front of the press straight away, my gut feeling all them years ago watching those two was they had something to do with it albeit I had to see it a few times before I twigged, the Portuguese police knew it but just could not get the vital evidence which makes me think that they had help, all that and the extraordinary help they have had from government and other people in power makes me think that they are protected, if one of our kids had been taken in this way do you think we would get the same level of help? Jonty

Davie, or others who can help,

I read about the sniffer dog evidence but wasn't sure if they'd actually found DNA matches. I thought the whole problem with the dog evidence was that it could not be used without DNA evidence to back it up?

Please correct me if I'm wrong as I'm trying to get to the bottom of where my belief lies.

The whole thing does appear strange to me and the Gaspar statement in particular is seriously damning. Did anything ever come from this statement?

Thanks

HB

15 Oct 2013 20:04:02
I'm enjoying this as well, and having re-read your posts my worst fear would be I do them a dis-service by limiting or restricting them with my own explanations; a task made no easier by words, I feel - which is a point i'd like to congratulate you on. Words are very interesting tools and can have a limiting effect when there is so much potential to convey - much like the "fourth dimensional potential" you describe above - and to arrest that potential would be a dis-service; one you avoid adeptly.

I'm curious to ask about biological, that is human (animal) potential for interacting with these principles (which we already do naturally, of course) in a higher-dimensional phase, for example; see Jonathan Livingstone Seagull's "perfect speed is being there" - are you familiar with this story? pea

Guys my honest take on it is they know more than they are letting on

Well said Garbo. NO mention of the DNA evidence in the flat, NO mention of the 48 unanswered questions, NO mention of the conflicting accounts and unwillingness to participate in a reconstruction. but wait, one thing that struck me was when the Cop guy Redwood said about the sighting of the man carrying a child in the direction of the sea "Doesn't fit in with someone trying to flee Praia Da Luz quickly". I picked up on that straight away. There's hope yet that the truth will out! Davie.

15 Oct 2013 15:39:01
funny how she was quick to add, ' when I went back into the room, I saw the window open. I JUST KNEW SHE HAD BEEN TAKEN! WTF really? you seem to know a lot don't you woman?

Nice one lucas.

Great post khaki very interesting documentary.

I was actually thinking the same thing sjm72, someone will be fitted up for this as I believe any further investigating will lead back to the Mccanns, I know innocent till proving guilty and all that but it just doesn’t sit right, not just with me but a lot of people.

Cheers Franky. The Mediastan post was mine.
Khakipillowslip

I think all of a sudden some known paedophile living within 50 miles of it all will be fitted up over it.
Friends in high places and all that.

I love talking about these things pea so no need to thank me. It's actually nice to have someone to discuss these things with.

Coils that open hyper-dimensional vortices do exist in nature, the super-massive black holes we find at the centers of most galaxies for example. The problem is only those, at least that I know of, allow matter to pass through. There are "energetic sources" (energetic source points) in various locations all over the earth, but only energy can travel through those.

The gates I mentioned in the last post is how you would go about recreating that effect. The problem being, you would have to have an exit point from the fourth dimension. That is why that design requires at least two quantum entangled gates. Otherwise, you would end up in the fourth dimension, having shed your material body, without a way back.

The key is finding the resonant frequency of the what creates pathways to the fourth dimension, that is where Φ comes in. It would be impossible to resonate with quantum potential, the energetic fabric of the fourth dimension, as it would have a spectrum in the same way that energy has in three dimensional reality. There is matter, radio frequencies, sound waves, visible light, x-rays etc.

Matter reverts to energy in these high frequencies so there would be no particles to talk about. In the same way, these frequencies are beyond those of visible light. What you would most likely observe once you are in the fourth dimension would be pitch black quantum potential.

If you are trying to brake through using movement and not energy you would still need to achieve a high enough frequency or in this case rpm, somewhere in the 50,000 rpm. Some of the older designs that that attempted to do this through material movement, had disk shaped vehicles with counter spinning top and bottom halves. The 50,000rpm boundary makes it cost ineffective to find materials that can withstand those speeds. That is why you are better off using electric fields directly.

So to sum up, by using gates you create two halves of a double toroidal vortex that connect with each other in fourth dimensional space by being in resonance with one another. By using a vehicle, you create the whole double toroidal vortex inside the craft and can thus enter and exit fourth dimensional reality at any point.

Zari