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It's the same with youtube Franky. Some of the videos there are just sick. I'm not in favour of censorship, but the graphically violent videos are becoming too prevalent, and the big worry is kids seeing it, and becoming de-sensitised to it.
Ryan.

Totally agree Franky, my oldest lad lives his life on it, lost the art of conversation, like everything else, destroyed by the mindless few. CM68

Mate a patriot questions everything about his own country, to me royality are just the same as governments, a selected bloodline that lives by its own rules.

26 May 2013 13:47:56
Nail on the head frankie mate!
liono74

Don't you mean re-build the infrastructure that was systematically destroyed in the build up to the invasion? And let's not forget the Taliban had no presence in Iraq until it was invaded by the allied forces. I don't smoke myself, but if others do, that's their business and none of mine.

Ryan.

Any anger is aimed, as Franky points out, at the people who put you and your comrades in these conflicts. Nobody in their right mind would blame the soldiers on the front line, you are simply doing the job you have been employed to do. You're right to say that you are helping to rebuild the infrastructure of Iraq etc but if these greedy clowns did not attack these places in the first instance then there would be no help required. I don't think you can, however, state that half of the uk are bums and the other as smack heads. The current economical climate here is tough, even menial jobs are attracting applications in their thousands. Some will be bone idle and not want to work and some will be addicted to drugs or drink. These are problems that can be found throughout the world. For everyone of them you will find plenty of decent and normal people.
The lack of respect from the youth of today is a worry. Not so long ago, we did as we were told by the adults with no questions asked. Getting a smack off your parents was punishment for wrong doing, it taught us not to misbehave. Until they give back parents the power to chastise their children then we will see no change in kids attitudes.

The world is in major debt because of greedy fat cats who have to much money to spend, there are few rich people with these kinds of money who have earned their money through inventions as such eg bill gates, it is a conspiracy that the world is run behind the scenes deciding the fate of every nation whether it be recession or election etc. i'm guessing its a matter of time before the next world war. would we stand up and fight for our country? I myself am a patriot and would die for the british crown whilst they sat back but I would not die for this government. we are slowly spiralling towards a country where there will be an uprising and things will get serious I just hope aliens come to our planet before then!

26 May 2013 14:11:29
Not all muslims are extremists. It isn't a black and white issue, so to speak.
Liono74

Mate no one with a brain would ever think the british soldiers are there to help, but you know as well you should not be there in the first place, innocent soldiers and civilians have lost their lives because of corrupt greedy nations wanting a piece of oil and those civilians are going to get massacred anyway when the forces pull out and when they really need protection this corrupt government will look the other way, mate we respect men and women like you, it is the f=====s who put you there in the first place we are pi--ed of with.

Good post deakko7 I think we are a dying breed, go back twenty years ago you knew who were the nutters now it is try to find a chilled group or pub, I have daughters and always checking up if they are going out etc and thought I wish I had boys because they would be ok to look after themselves but the way gang culture is, it is a lot safer being a girl than a boy.
not sure what we can do to stop it.

What are you you on about, "how hardline he is"?

25 May 2013 18:15:00
My point is, he also quotes the bible. Its not that I don't think he is muslim, its how hardline he is. It doesn't sound like he is part of a terrorist cell. A hardline muslim would never quote the bible whilst being recorded. Anyway it seems you have completely missed the original point that it doesn't matter what his religion is, its going to be used to take away more of our civil liberties.
P. s. I can't believe the edl is getting out its pram and targeting mosques and other peaceful muslims. Are they being told to make a big deal out of this. We are being led to a very dark place, if we are not careful the attack in woollich could be the tip of the iceberg.
Liono74

25 May 2013 18:03:05
It was a conspiracy, 2+ people were involved.
Liono74

I didn't say troops of any kind, bring democracy anywhere? If you read the post again, you will see that I was saying I had read this in other peoples writings.

The word democracy turns my stomach, there's no such thing in my eyes, it's a myth created by political minds. How can anywhere have a democratic government, when we all know the guys that get to run for any position, in any office, are usually financed by corporations.

Why can't you accept that the mans Muslim mate go on Liveleak watch the video for yourself he quotes the Quran. I've seen pictures of him standing behind Anjem Choudray at one of there protests.

Hopefully my last post does not happen, a lovely sunny day here in liverpool out for a few drinks till nxt time adios.

If you read the original post you will see the poster does not mention bringing democray to people. This stupid comment was being made by people he knew, which he disagrees with.
Captain Needa

25 May 2013 03:07:11
"an eye for an eye" is taken from the bible, leviticus I believe. So I guess these guys were christian extremists after all? My original point was everybody was up in arms because of the language used by the media. Have we not learned that these guys will spin the news to help whatever branch of the government is most concerned? It doesn't matter if they were hardcore muslims or even if they were moonies, what does matter is it will be used to reduce everyones freedom, and that is the truly evil part of what happened in woolich. Its not terrorists I fear its ignorance and intolerance. That, at the end of the day is what places walls between us.
Liono74

Yeah, seen that a few days ago mate and forgot to post it with all the stuff here.

http://hamptonroads.com/2013/05/fbi-agents-died-fall-helicopter-va-coast

In what way?