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Abduction.

The quiet contrys are most deadly. Turks are nuts. If there was ever a war you'd want the Turks on yourside.

Armenian Genocide
http://www.armenian-genocide.org/index.htm

The knowledge of the likes of Britain, France etc to what was happening is frightening when you consider their silence on the matter today. There are some great links to Primary sources to show the extent institutional knowledge of the atrocity.

Hollywood is like you said a big media spin but if they were trying to quell the alien phenomenon I get the feeling they want to promote it and apart from the odd movie they portray anything not humanoid as aggressive and one thing else about Hollywood I have noticed 90 per cent of the bad guys are not american they get played by British or other countries , very few a list stars play the baddie, could be nothing in it but I have always thought that strange.

frankyscouse

23 Jan 2013 23:11:42
wasn't the boer concentration camps more down to mis management rather than deliberate? Not to condone it as it was wrong. Turks sound horrible. {Ed001's Note - I was referring to the ones they built to keep the Irish in as well.}

Ok so he could have had the technology to time travel but not possibly have the technology to use a mobile in that timeline.

The turks gained an ally in america after wwII by helping against the russians and in return the americans made sure no1 ever mentioned the armenian genocide that happened during wwI or even referrd to it as genocide, it is the first recorded and they even hold the esteemed prize of the first gas chamber (they herded armenians into a cave and then set a fire at the front and they all suffocated) the germans used many of the tactics used by the turks and encountered the same problems like bullets being to costly (being cost effecient the turks tied people together killing one and then threw them into the sea) apologies for the rant but its this sort of hypocrisy/diplomacy that really pisses me off {Ed001's Note - these are the kind of things people should know. They should be known around the world, like the British invented the concentration camp, that should be known. Both the good and bad should be known.}

23 Jan 2013 19:39:56
sorry ed forgot all about the turks, its the lack of publicity. They also have previous with the armenian genocide as well. Not to mention the nutters at the football! {Ed001's Note - I used to work with some Kurdish refugees, at first I thought they were lying about the things they had gone through. I had never heard anything or seen anything about it, so just thought they were talking nonsense. Then I looked into it, it is horrifying that it could go on for so long and remain unreported. Similar in Sri Lanka with the Tamils, who are pretty much gone now.}

Very strange.

frankyscouse

The USA are the biggest members of NATO but still everyone looks the other way when American soldiers are pictured torturing prisoners, anyone from any other country would have got life in prison/death penalty compared to ten years which the us soldiers got.
LP

23 Jan 2013 18:06:32
well the japanese were pretty nasty. So were the germans. And the north koreans. Can't imagine the chinese are much better. And the prize for worst surely goes to the soviets. {Ed001's Note - what about the Turks? They have been guilty of what we now call ethnic cleansing, all the time a member of NATO and called an ally. Yet they slaughtered the Kurds en masse.}

23 Jan 2013 18:13:56
they may well have a dirty great spaceship but if its parked out of sight with tech that renders it invisible which they might have. Also they could use shuttles, or have transporters, or some other tech we don't know.

I know what you mean ed I just think this type of conspiracy stretches logic to breaking point.
liono74 {Ed001's Note - possibly, but logic is not a good decider of the truth. Many truths defy logic.}

I know we managed to keep the landings quiet but i'm talking about a dirty great spaceship taking off!
Liono74 {Ed001's Note - what if the spaceship isn't that big? The whole point is that the tech is not what we see on TV etc. So why does it have to be a dirty great spaceship? Even so, why do you know about the shuttle launches etc? You only know about the ones on TV, there are regular satellite launches that we never hear about. Why do you think you would hear about one that they want kept secret?}

I agree with most if nt all the posts about soilders and wars and with ed bout the way we try to portay them, I live near one of the main trainig bases for new recruits and I can tell you the nippers who come to town on leave love nothing more than a scrap which leads me onto my main point that although I agree with the posts about controlling the population and brainwashing I think there is something inherent in all humans where we like to fight, something animalistic and raw that we try to define as patriotism
what came first the empire or the warlord?

The chinese/nrth koreans/russians/uk/usa would not fund uprisings in the middle east its easier to do buisness with the monarchs and dictators already established we don't care about civil liberties when it comes to oil. As for the chinese buying up places it will probably be to move their own migrant workers there theyv already done it in the pacific islands and they bailed out many large american conglomerates. they are 'investing' in just about everywhere mainly to be good capitalist and have their fingers in as many pies as possible

History is written by the victors

Remember Gary McKinnon? He found a list of names titled "Non-Terrestrial Officers" on his wee adventure. pea

But ed, back then there was no twitter. Don't underestimate the power of a tweet! {Ed001's Note - it's only power is to disseminate lies amongst the gullible.}

He could be mumbling away to himself...surely that makes sense! How the hell is he going to be talking to some1 on his 'phone'!? Surely he would have a battle trying to get a reception!!

GBI