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Ed it really wouldn't surprise me. OK the gunmen and the the rest are hardcore republican supporters and all that but it really wouldn't surprise me if the very top people were in the pay of the spooks. Not sure what the gain was for kicking off 30+ years of murder and mayhem though.

I mean its not like Iraq or Libya where there is a tangible asset like the oil, or Afghanistan and Syria which they want for their pipelines. (Not condoning it, just saying i can see the reason behind what they are doing, there's a clear objective, they have motive and means and a defined strategic goal linked to a material resource, like Iraq has oil, pipe it through Syria to Israel and the Med and avoid the Gulf and Iran, makes perfect logical strategic sense to me, very shady way of going about it.) But i digress i just can't see the reason for stoking up the Irish issue, what did they gain from it?

{Ed033's Note - The people who run Britain did it for control. If there is a bogey group that you pretend you can't catch, it means you can have cameras everywhere, you can record every phone conversation, you cn bring in any legislation you like for total control a bit at a time. If there is no bogey man group then there is no reason/excuse for any control legislation and the agenda is total control.

Lets face it he could have gotten out. I did once read a book (fiction) whereby his plane blew up so Bormann just wheeled out a double (would love to find that book again, can't track it down anywhere.)


Basically he had doubles, course he did, Monty and Churchill both used doubles apparently, and i'm fairly sure Stalin did as well, so its a safe leap to make to assume he had his doubles as well. He survived a number of assassination attempts back in the 20's and 30's so would make sense to have a spare so to speak.

So he could have slipped out with the loot that was never recovered already sat waiting in a nice safe anonymous Swiss account that he could access from his nice shiny new South American home when he wasn't hobnobbing with the Peron's.

I'm guessing that when we realised this we didn't it to be known that he had got away as it wouldn't look good. Either that or we were complicit in his getaway which i don't have the stomach to contemplate.

{Ed033's Note - The german people lost the war not the Nazis. Probably a deal was made with the Nazis. Part of the deal could have been a loan for the rebuilding of Europe after the war under the Marshall plan.

I think it was Graham Hancocks book that postulated a metoer or comet impact that ripped the atmosphere away and caused the Tharsis bulge and Valle Marineris, but having watched the attached vids before its a good theory.

{Ed033's Note - Be interesting to ask Graham Hancock what he now thinks of the Wal Thornhill/David Talbot mars theory in the above videos. He obviously wrote the book years before this new info.

I wasn't saying that the IRA wasnt real just that they could have been manipulated by others

{Ed033's Note - The IRA were allegedly run at the top by a British intelligence agency probably MI6

Don't think that would have happened as expansion of the sun comes at the end of it's natural life cycle, Mars was more likley killed of by a large object hitting it

{Ed033's Note - This is most likely what happened to Mars - documentary by the electric universe crew of thunderbolts.info

The Lightning-Scarred Planet Mars - Part One

 

The Lightning-Scarred Planet Mars - Part Two

Lol at allotments. i can imagine my old fella there planting some cabbages and carrots.
huddz red {Ed001's Note - it would explain a thing or two if you were descended from Martians mate!!}

You mean like allotments.

{Ed033's Note - I mean like lakes and forests

Seen something about it on controversial tv, we are supposed get full disclosure with in 20 years?.

{Ed033's Note - The latest Mars rover called Curiosity has just landed on Mars and is equipped to find life on Mars. From earlier satellite pictures there appears to be liquid water and vegetation over certain parts of Mars.

Where has this come from?
duggo

Wow ed if true that is shocking, adds fuel to the conspiracy theory. Would certainly make any stories reported on by mainstream news networks unbelievable in my book, the fact that this has not once been mentioned.

GALWAY RED

{Ed033's Note - This isn't the first time the main stream media have under-reported a news story and it won't be the last.

Mountbatten knew about ET's maybe this is why he was murdered.

You tell the people of Manchester that the IRA are not real and see how hard you get slapped down

Maybe the Uk mislead us of his death just to make the masses believe that justice was done what more could you ask for right? the man was gone it's over but now only to be dug up and disproved

Jedimindtricks

"Al-Qaida,(sic) literally 'the database,' was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians," admits former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook.
In other words, the so-called Al Qaeda, which has been promoted by the Media Cartel as the cause of all bombings and terrorism since the destruction of the World Trade Center in New York on September 11, 2001, is simply a database of CIA trained "terrorists" (or "freedom fighters," depending on your perspective) which has become a convenient Global Boogeyman for the 21st Century.
robin cook died in mysterious circumstances.

{Ed033's Note - allegedly Robin cook was given a heart attack (by agents using a device that induces a heart attack from a distance) on a walking holiday in scotland. The same allegedly happened to John Smith (Labour Leader) when he was on a walking holiday in Scotland because it was probable that John Smith would not have gone along with the things that Tony Blair (John Smith's successor) went along with.

It's now ridiculous that Al Qaeda are now hailed in the media as the "freedom fighters" against the "evil" leader in Syria, President Bashar al-Assad

Al Qaeda are real. American CIA funded their start up and I beleive probably still manipulate them..........

Matt_RFC

There's loads of conjecture about how "real" the IRA was. In the sense of bombings, many believe attacks were planned by MI5. Sounds crazy? As crazy as Martin McGuinness shaking hands with the Queen recently?!

In the same set of evidence, researchers have said they can prove Hitlers skull which is on diplay in russia is actually the skull of a woman. Its a big country with big boarders, it wouldnt have been hard for him to get out of the country with the right help if thats what happened

Matt_RFC

Some of the evidence seems convincing would be interested in finding out more about this , but one question I have is why would people constantly lie about hitler being dead in this case , surely if the evidence is that good then they would want to hunt him down.

Real question I have is what do our governments stand to gain by havig us believe that hitler Died in that bunker ?

Icke's documentaries/talks are interesting viewing, he's a personable guy and a good speaker and a lot of his theories make sense.....not sure about the reptilian claims, but there you go.

Anyway my only problem with him, is this - he loves to talk about how most uninformed people believe everything the media feeds them without questioning, out of fear of being labelled 'weird' etc.

But he often ends a statement or something by saying that if you don't believe him, you're brainwashed and simply haven't seen the light yet.

Now, considering anyone giving Icke the time of day is likely an open-minded, inquisitive person - that kind of comment uses the same strategy that the mainstream media does. In other words, if you don't believe me, you're a sheep with no mind of your own.

I'd like to see how many Icke fans actually go away from his talks and research every point he makes......or do they simply believe him and do no more seeking? In which case, they're just as brainwashed as the masses!

RED_SKY

For me, he tries to include too much in his conspiracy theories. The reptilian stuff is too far out for me (lunatic fringe?). I remember watching a series where Alex Jones says he's skeptical of David Icke and i agree.