17 Oct 2014 14:21:22
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20 Jun 2014 13:39:33
For what its worth on Wilson, I don't think its true. Bearing in mind he resigned in 1976 and I was being measured for my uniform at the time it was way above my pay grade so this is only my opinion as I have no proof either way.
But I think the Wilson was a kgb agent is bogus. For start there's nothing he did policy wise that could be considered as Moscow directed. Whilst in his younger days he was on the left of the labour party (which would make him agent potential) by the time he became an mp in 1945 his politics had moved to the centre left. He won the 1963 labour party leadership contest caused by the untimely death of Hugh Gaitskell on a uniting the party ticket after Jim Callaghan and George Brown split the centre right vote. A year later he won the general election. Whilst at the time a lot of the labour party supported unilateral disarmament, which certainly suited Moscow, Wilson never considered it.
Personally I think he was the victim of a smear campaign by mi5 to weaken him by implicating him as a soviet agent. Bear in mind the legacy of the Cambridge 5 and the suspicion that there were other highly placed spies.
There were of course other such spies, including in government circles, but a British prime minister? We could only wish. On a separate note I do for fact know there were sources of information inside the government as I met one at an ashes game at lords.
I have also seen the rumour that both Jim Callaghan and Tony Blair were cia assets.
Kim Philby
Read discussionFor what its worth on Wilson, I don't think its true. Bearing in mind he resigned in 1976 and I was being measured for my uniform at the time it was way above my pay grade so this is only my opinion as I have no proof either way.
But I think the Wilson was a kgb agent is bogus. For start there's nothing he did policy wise that could be considered as Moscow directed. Whilst in his younger days he was on the left of the labour party (which would make him agent potential) by the time he became an mp in 1945 his politics had moved to the centre left. He won the 1963 labour party leadership contest caused by the untimely death of Hugh Gaitskell on a uniting the party ticket after Jim Callaghan and George Brown split the centre right vote. A year later he won the general election. Whilst at the time a lot of the labour party supported unilateral disarmament, which certainly suited Moscow, Wilson never considered it.
Personally I think he was the victim of a smear campaign by mi5 to weaken him by implicating him as a soviet agent. Bear in mind the legacy of the Cambridge 5 and the suspicion that there were other highly placed spies.
There were of course other such spies, including in government circles, but a British prime minister? We could only wish. On a separate note I do for fact know there were sources of information inside the government as I met one at an ashes game at lords.
I have also seen the rumour that both Jim Callaghan and Tony Blair were cia assets.
Kim Philby
No kim, before I joined this site I was and still am looked at alien conspiracy stuff, roswell/dulce and abductions and for the last few years I have broadened my research threw the edds and people like yourself and learnt new stuff and every conspiracy on different subjects always seems to lead back to the same Kabul.
Read discussion19 Jun 2014 23:43:47
Thought you might have heard those before Franky.
Kim Philby
Read discussionThought you might have heard those before Franky.
Kim Philby
Quite surprised a mainstream paper acknowledging that people like us believe some of these conspiracy theories, there are two that are new to me.
1 The 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami might have been caused by the USA and Israel
2 harold Wilson could have been a KGB spy.
Read discussion1 The 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami might have been caused by the USA and Israel
2 harold Wilson could have been a KGB spy.
Within the next ten years I reckon martial law will be declared, why?simple answer is America is bankrupt, middle class people are losing there homes and things will get a hell of a lot worse and like I have mentioned many times homeland security (police) have bought 20 years worth of arms also add the fema camps, they are prepared.
Read discussion13 Jun 2014 12:32:55
He upset the wrong people, came to London, wasn't careful enough and the people he upset decided he was too much of a problem so solved the problem. As Stalin once said "death solves every problem. No man no problem". Someone was able to get close enough to poison him. Very likely the chap named in the investigation. And if I recall he was dosed several times.
This is why you should always stay on good terms with your former employers.
Kim Philby
Read discussionHe upset the wrong people, came to London, wasn't careful enough and the people he upset decided he was too much of a problem so solved the problem. As Stalin once said "death solves every problem. No man no problem". Someone was able to get close enough to poison him. Very likely the chap named in the investigation. And if I recall he was dosed several times.
This is why you should always stay on good terms with your former employers.
Kim Philby
Do you feel that the declaration of martial law in the US is imminent Frankie, what indications and/or reasons would you cite?
Read discussionSandy hook was around the time the government wanted to challenge the second amendment about people defending themselves and of course there was uproar about the shootings (if they really got murdered ) that's another story, the subplot about these attacks is to disarm the million or so people who legally carry firearms in america, why? simple once martial law is declared its going to be a hell of a lot easier if people are unarmed.
Boston was just a little reminder there are guys who want to bomb us, if you remember that time snowdon and manning went public as more Americans came home in body bags as taxes rose and people wanted there boys and girls home plus add to the fact when these type of eents happen new laws get passed undetected for instance if you are from a minority race in a part of town when a bomb goes off now you can be held without any trial or help, everything happens for a reason.
Read discussionBoston was just a little reminder there are guys who want to bomb us, if you remember that time snowdon and manning went public as more Americans came home in body bags as taxes rose and people wanted there boys and girls home plus add to the fact when these type of eents happen new laws get passed undetected for instance if you are from a minority race in a part of town when a bomb goes off now you can be held without any trial or help, everything happens for a reason.