06 Feb 2020 07:57:20 I don't just jump in with FE theory, Rian. I like to warm people up with what brought me to think about it. Moon hoax, flaws in macro-evolution, possibilities of proof of instant creation and the mainstream hiding, ignoring or ridiculing these facts with non-proof answers.
Then, once you got their attention. BANG, hit 'em with FE theory haha.
04 Feb 2020 09:54:28 You'll never win people over going straight into the flat earth conversation. Even if they're nice to your face they are not going to believe you. Better start with something like the gulf of Tonkin or WMD's in Iraq, because everyone knows now we were lied to about them. Then you can broaden the conversation a little over time. FE is too big a leap even for people who are naturally sceptical imo.
I do think something is happening in Antarctica and is being kept from us. Just what it is, I don't know. If anyone has any links I'd love to check them out.
03 Feb 2020 20:58:57 Thanks for the insightful reply, Rian. It would appear we at a similar place when in comes to opinions of the discussions on this page.
Antarctica is an interesting subject. I have look into Admiral Byrd's expeditions and its difficult to work out what exactly he means. He makes some crazy statements about the North Pole too. The 'Lost Diaries' would be an interesting read if they existed and were found.
I was having a debate on flat Earth with someone on NYE and they facetimed a friend who happened to be working in Antarctica. Don't know what the chances of that happening were?
I was really pissed off that I was introduced with a mocking tone, as a flat Earther (because apparently even if you ask questions you are a flat earther and should be shamed for doing so haha) .
It was a short conversation, but he said the fact that he was near the South Pole, proved the Earth was flat? . Still not quite sure how exactly. I just laughed, told him to steal the biggest vehicle he could find, preferably a plane, and head South and stream it too me live. We'd no one way or another.
03 Feb 2020 21:11:32 I am not the people that made these recordings. But if I was camping somewhere deep in the middle of nowhere, and heard sounds like these. I assure you the last thing that I would be doing is going back anywhere near the place.
These sounds have been analysed by a professor ( I will find his name out if you want me too) and his expert opinion is that these creatures are around 7 and a half to eight and a half feet tall, with a vastly superior vocal range to humans, by going higher and lower in pitch than human frequencies.
You can definitely hear what appears to be a language amongst the sounds.
03 Feb 2020 20:07:00 You’re right I’m not shocked by anything, and I am firm in my beliefs but not so firm that I’m unable to change my point of view. I’ve changed my mind on a lot of things over the years.
I’ve never really thought much about flat earth before now, but observing the conversation you’ve been having with Ed033 has been really interesting, and certainly provides much food for thought.
I can’t really say if the earth is a globe or flat, but I’m open to the idea that either is possible. I’ve certainly got an interest in the subject now thanks to you both, and I will explore both sides of the argument as much as possible over time. I won’t make my mind up quickly. I try to remain open despite the noise all around. I have been trying to read up on the antarctic for a couple of years now, and I think there is something huge going on there that is being kept from us.
I think almost everything we’re told in society is manufactured propaganda. I stopped listening to the mm many years ago. I don’t really believe anything I’m told. I do think we are all programmed from day one, and mentally unshackling yourself from the pack is challenging.
My interest in alternative explanations started in childhood. Even when I was very young I never really believed LHO killed JFK. I still shudder at the thought that a lot of people still think he did it.
I never believed in the moon landings. Along with JFK and 9/11 this is a subject I have studied exhaustively. All three demonstrate the power of the mm, and how you can deceive people on a global scale quite easily.
So yes, if we are all living in the Truman Show, it really wouldn’t shock me.
Like you SM, I am simply looking for the truth. I just wish more people would start asking questions.
And hsf, you’re a little bit like my wife. She is afraid to believe because once she accepts that something big like 9/11 or the moon landings are a lie, she realises that she would have to re-evaluate absolutely everything.
And that is completely mind blowing and quite frightening for someone to contemplate. But you wouldn’t be sniffing around this site if it wasn’t for the fact that you’re beginning to have doubts yourself. You would have been long gone by now.
03 Feb 2020 19:46:32 I Listened to the podcast above and then went on to watch the film 'Missing 411 The Hunted' and I don't know what to add other than the fact I agree that none of it adds up.
At the end of the film there are a couple of cases that are not missing people but more paranormal experiences.
One of these cases was at a camp that Ron Morehead set up at a secret remote location in the 1950's with four of his close friends. The went every year to hunt together.
They started to hear strange noises at the start of the seventies and on a return trip they took recording equipment with them.
All of the audio has been checked for it being fake and 'experts' in the field said there was no way it could have been.
There is actual video in the movie but there is nothing of note to be seen in these, it is what you can hear that's important. I found the actual audio recordings. Be interested in others opinions on this, but it has freaked me out a bit. Cold shivers.
03 Feb 2020 15:33:19 Haha, I'm not calling you out because you debunked something. I am totally OK with that as I am just seeking the truth, whatever that may be. :O)
You never appear to come across as shocked, or of that nature, with any of the posts on these pages which suggests to me you are quite familiar with these topics and are firm in your beliefs.
I guess Just one question, as it is a big subject with multiple aspects to it.
What do you make of this realm we find ourselves living in?
This includes what's above and below and all the things around us. Flat? globe? Moon hoax? space hoax? what are the luminaries? etc.
Thanks for replying, Rian. I look forward to your response.
03 Feb 2020 07:14:26 Thanks Ed. Really fascinated by this subject, not heard evidence as portrayed by D. Paulidses before. Maybe because its suppressed?
I would like to get some of his books, but they are quite pricey.
I am always on the look out for high value info books though, on the cheap. Just got blacks law 7th edition delivered for £6 so happy with that. Only problem is now I am studying legalese and Fomenko, at the same time as all this other stuff. TBH, loving it! . Mind for filled.
01 Feb 2020 17:48:53 OK, fair point, but I think you missed mine? . I basically meant that, the people who have control over everything get to choose what the answers are, regardless of whether they are right or wrong (in the greater picture) .
The thing is, you have to dig around, out of the MS slant on things, to find out these facts about Churchill and Hitler. And if you dig deeper enough you actually start to piece together the truth and not the MS 'spin'.
I guess I tried and failed to compact what I was thinking, into the original OP, so people would understand. It appeared obvious to me, but you more than likely think in a different way. So wouldn't be so clear.
01 Feb 2020 16:23:19 You can spin that kind of arguement any way you want. Here is a good example of doing it.
Who would you rather vote for to run the country? An alcoholic who is prone to domestic abuse, as well as smoking 60 a day. Or a vegan who loves animals and doesn't drink or smoke?
If you picked the 2nd one, well congrats you picked Hitler over Churchill. In these kind of things you have to list everything, you can't just cherry pick one good thing from the "woke" side and then list 10 bad things for the mainstream view. That's called confirmation bias.
30 Jan 2020 00:14:55 I got to that point around 2 months ago. Then just let go of everything I have 'been taught' and started looking for myself. Very strangely everything, on the whole, seem to make, much more sense (or what I knew made more nonsense)
I was one of the few that asked you to start the 'Space and Astrophysics' page. I can't bring myself to study that at this time. Too many things I have seen make that seem pointless until other questions are answered. Consequently, my humble book collection has taken a very, vivid turn in direction.
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