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28 Feb 2013 17:27:50
Puzzled to the English their privateers to the Spanish they were pirates. Besides a few privateers went pirate anyway. {Ed001's Note - privateers were just pirates given a license to pirate, nothing more.}

28 Feb 2013 17:28:59
puzzled sorry meant to add re tie pirate or privateer thing it depends whose propaganda you believe.

The poster at 12.37 is actually talking about privateers not pirates. The distinction is perhaps a fine one, but it is there.
You will all know that Guy Fawkes was a relatively minor player in the 'gunpowder plot'

Puzzled

Sorry Gunpowder plot.

I don't think Fawkes was actually guilty, as he only admitted to the gunpowder plant after hours of intense torturing.

27 Feb 2013 12:57:43
What Fawkes did can be considered good. Pirates is open to interpretation. A lot of pirates were paid by governments to act as commerce raiders against other countries whereby little or no blame could be attached to the parent country. Basically war by proxy like the Cold War. Although a lot went free lance. Bin Laden well that's different. Whether he did it off his own bat or acting on behalf of others its still bad. Not sure the guy could ever be considered redeemable.

Guy Fawkes was the 1st and last person to ever walk into parliament with good intentions

Ed can you imagine us questioning these topics in school! We would definatley have ended up in Winwick mental hospital in a straight jacket! If I mentioned any of this to my mother she'd disown me! She's very religious and goes church every Sunday! {Ed001's Note - luckily my mother was very interested in history, so she knew about the wearing men's clothes things. Though me dad was religious to a degree, dragging me to church on a Sunday etc, even he has moved away from the Catholic church.}

Ed I watched a documentary that stated she was never in this country! She was buried along with her husband at a church in France! Not sure of the year but just before the war the catholic church sent a team to remove all evidence that she was buried in France! They said there were witnesses that watched her burn but it stated that no one knew what she looked like so could easily have been someone else! Just weird how one minute the catholic church condemned her to death the next shes a sainted just before the war! {Ed001's Note - they do whatever gives them the most power and money.}

Crazy though ed that until I watched that film I'd never given it a second thought! Saying that I believed the Joan of Arc story's till I did a little research and realised it was all bs! And it was just a way to give the French people hope during the war! {Ed001's Note - they can't even tell the truth about why she was burnt at the stake either! It was nothing to do with witchcraft, she was burnt for wearing men's clothing.}

Everyone knows the biggest crooks are politicians so it makes more sense that he was doing it for the good of us! Imagine if he had succeeded we would never be in the state we are in now! {Ed001's Note - a lot of historians and history books do tell a totally different story from the one we get spoon fed to us as kids. There was certainly a lot more to it than we are led to believe.}

To be fair edd this is not a typical advert were you get a set amount of money and not a blockbuster movie. I have never heard of this movie until RR mentioned it and by the sounds of it, it has never had much publicity so I would think fry has took it on for the story line and agenda more so than a cheque (i am only guessing on that)as for guy Fawkes its self it does make you think how we perceive him in our schools, like everyone else we have got it drummed in to heads he was a evil terrorist instead he could have been a English version of William Wallace.

25 Feb 2013 13:37:41
poor old guido got a lot of stick as the religion card got played. The guy was a patriot. I've always thought the tradition was wrong and needs changing or doing away with. Mort

It makes you wonder though if everything we were told of guy Fawkes was rubbish! It makes more sense the way V explain it! And like you said Stephen Fry is a very intelligent man and can't see him making movies just for the money! Glad you enjoyed it Franky! {Ed001's Note - Stephen Fry is involved in a hell of a lot of things, purely for money. Including a large number of tech investments. Having said that, we are taught a complete loan of cack about Guy Fawkes, it is not as simple as was made out. He would have considered himself a patriot.}

I think the eds are hired by the CIA to try and get us to reveal our secrets.

Haha no arguments there edd

Melbourne your right mate I did get it wrong partly my fault partly edd02s fault for not speaking the language everyone understands. {Ed001's Note - people pay a lot of money to have their harpoon sharpened....}

I think you misinterpreted "harpoon sharpener" Frankie. It's a old Thai massage technique ;-)

Melbourne CFC

23 Feb 2013 15:34:55
so ed1 is gandalf and ed2 is mulder. Mort

No doubt everyone like myself has just Google d Oblio and found a quote that I found interesting edd02 It would be nice but I am dealing with a number of people, including the host, who do not like what I am saying, how I am saying it, and indeed doubt my sincerity. ” edd01 is sharpening he's tools as we speak, (pardon the pun)