29 Jun 2016 14:46:58
Cameron was playing party politics. Corbyn can't step down now after being told to by a tory. It suits Cameron to have labour infighting.
Electing Khan was a mistake.
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29 Jun 2016 14:26:32
Many don't trust Khan at all.
Read discussionMany don't trust Khan at all.
29 Jun 2016 13:14:21
Corbyn and the whole Labour Party has stabbed people in the back, but people still think they are good. Corbyn did not want to risk his retirement fund, 40 years against EU but aligned with 'Remain'.
My mum till last year was a labour supporter never voted anything else now she will not touch them. I know at least 30 people who want nothing to do with labour, don't matter who is the head puppet.
Leaving EU is best for Britain in long run and for the British people. Who did labour back? Why can Nigel Farage speak out, but Corbyn can't. Because he has his own interest at heart, not the people.
And I forgot to mention Kahn with his first action to get posters of attractive women banned from London.
Read discussionCorbyn and the whole Labour Party has stabbed people in the back, but people still think they are good. Corbyn did not want to risk his retirement fund, 40 years against EU but aligned with 'Remain'.
My mum till last year was a labour supporter never voted anything else now she will not touch them. I know at least 30 people who want nothing to do with labour, don't matter who is the head puppet.
Leaving EU is best for Britain in long run and for the British people. Who did labour back? Why can Nigel Farage speak out, but Corbyn can't. Because he has his own interest at heart, not the people.
And I forgot to mention Kahn with his first action to get posters of attractive women banned from London.
Reply · frankyscouser · 29 Jun 2016 12:25
frankyscouser · 29 Jun 2016 12:2529 Jun 2016 13:22:55
i would have a better chance than chuka, burnham yes knows the city of liverpool are pro corbyn and you are right he is stuck .
watson was a feller who I voted for last year to be Deputy Leader and I had high hopes for him after his role in the pedo mps scandal,
but he went silent once his own colleges and every other party scolded him .
he is nothing more than a sheep, as for cooper
she voted for the iraq war
she abstained over cuts to the poor
and not forgetting her husband edd balls part of the blair inner circle, she will never get elected .
Read discussioni would have a better chance than chuka, burnham yes knows the city of liverpool are pro corbyn and you are right he is stuck .
watson was a feller who I voted for last year to be Deputy Leader and I had high hopes for him after his role in the pedo mps scandal,
but he went silent once his own colleges and every other party scolded him .
he is nothing more than a sheep, as for cooper
she voted for the iraq war
she abstained over cuts to the poor
and not forgetting her husband edd balls part of the blair inner circle, she will never get elected .
29 Jun 2016 13:06:30
Even Cameron, during PM questions, said to Corbyn along the lines of, 'for god sakes, go.'
Read discussionEven Cameron, during PM questions, said to Corbyn along the lines of, 'for god sakes, go.'
29 Jun 2016 12:53:27
Are any of the candidates mentioned for pro Leave or are they all Remain?
Read discussionAre any of the candidates mentioned for pro Leave or are they all Remain?
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TTTS · 29 Jun 2016 11:52
TTTS · 29 Jun 2016 11:5229 Jun 2016 12:49:43
Corbyn has already been sent a warning . The shadowy figures controlling Blair will stop at nothing.
Read discussionCorbyn has already been sent a warning . The shadowy figures controlling Blair will stop at nothing.
29 Jun 2016 12:08:25
Burnham kept out of it because he needs union support for this metro mayor in Liverpool he's positioning himself for. He's figuring its better for him to not be the Blairite candidate for that. Burnham thinks of Burnham. He knows he has slim chance of the leadership and he knows how the coupists have been viewed.
I think we'll see a few sound out the rest of party but drop out for lack of support. The problem for this coup is they've acted without having a figurehead.
Tom Watson is playing the quiet game. Very Richard III waiting for power to be "thrust" upon him.
Eagle has zero chance. Burnham has discussed. Chuka Umunna may try, personally I don't rate him. I still think the best candidate on that side is Yvette Cooper but she's largely kept quiet.
Read discussionBurnham kept out of it because he needs union support for this metro mayor in Liverpool he's positioning himself for. He's figuring its better for him to not be the Blairite candidate for that. Burnham thinks of Burnham. He knows he has slim chance of the leadership and he knows how the coupists have been viewed.
I think we'll see a few sound out the rest of party but drop out for lack of support. The problem for this coup is they've acted without having a figurehead.
Tom Watson is playing the quiet game. Very Richard III waiting for power to be "thrust" upon him.
Eagle has zero chance. Burnham has discussed. Chuka Umunna may try, personally I don't rate him. I still think the best candidate on that side is Yvette Cooper but she's largely kept quiet.
Reply · frankyscouser · 29 Jun 2016 10:58
frankyscouser · 29 Jun 2016 10:5829 Jun 2016 11:53:10
i think there will be only one challenger but like you said there is no stand out contenders,
funny enough the guy who went up against him last time would be the only one who could realistically put up a good fight (andy burnham )
especially after his stock rose over Hillsborough and also he was never the main culprits behind the coo, no doubt he disagrees with corbyn on certain policies, he in my eyes would have been his toughest opponent, but he got my respect by not resigning and kept out of it.
angela eagle is touted to be the challenger but judging by her own constituents she has no chance, they all publicly backed corbyn.
Read discussioni think there will be only one challenger but like you said there is no stand out contenders,
funny enough the guy who went up against him last time would be the only one who could realistically put up a good fight (andy burnham )
especially after his stock rose over Hillsborough and also he was never the main culprits behind the coo, no doubt he disagrees with corbyn on certain policies, he in my eyes would have been his toughest opponent, but he got my respect by not resigning and kept out of it.
angela eagle is touted to be the challenger but judging by her own constituents she has no chance, they all publicly backed corbyn.
29 Jun 2016 11:28:56
It would have to appear natural causes, stress related to have any chance. Any other way it would look like it is.
Read discussionIt would have to appear natural causes, stress related to have any chance. Any other way it would look like it is.
29 Jun 2016 11:13:56
I think Franky they might try and get rid of Corbin by any means, just like they did with John Smith. The future is in everyone's hands and if we don't come together it could be a bleak future for the younger generation who have been brainwashed by their phones and tablets.
Read discussionI think Franky they might try and get rid of Corbin by any means, just like they did with John Smith. The future is in everyone's hands and if we don't come together it could be a bleak future for the younger generation who have been brainwashed by their phones and tablets.
29 Jun 2016 10:44:09
Corbyn isn't a bad person. He's been badly advised by Seamus Milne, like at the shadow cabinet meeting where Milne's trying to get a photo op and Corbyn says its a bad idea.
The issue is, prior to the referendum, the labour looked more like a protest group than an actual opposition. But how much of that is down to Corbyn not having full control of the party. Largely due to the rebels.
If it comes to a leadership election Corbyn will stand. He will take most of membership in regards to the activists. The key questions is 1. Will the unions continue to support him. 2. Who do the Blairites rally around.
I think Corbyn will take most of the union vote too. I don't see a standout Blairite candidate. Instead it could be 2-3 of them competing which strengthens Corbyn.
Corbyn should therefore win any leadership contest. He then has to take more effective control of the PLP. If they won't back him this time after a second successful leadership election he has to push Cameron for a general election and deselect the disloyal mp's. But that then creates a labour party dominated by one section rather than a wider spectrum.
Could the Blairites form their own party? Possible.
For what its worth I disagree with a lot of Corbyns policies. I think his brand of socialism is unworkable and should be consigned to the past.
However the people deserve a genuine choice at the ballot box rather than the same choice wearing different coloured ties.
Read discussionCorbyn isn't a bad person. He's been badly advised by Seamus Milne, like at the shadow cabinet meeting where Milne's trying to get a photo op and Corbyn says its a bad idea.
The issue is, prior to the referendum, the labour looked more like a protest group than an actual opposition. But how much of that is down to Corbyn not having full control of the party. Largely due to the rebels.
If it comes to a leadership election Corbyn will stand. He will take most of membership in regards to the activists. The key questions is 1. Will the unions continue to support him. 2. Who do the Blairites rally around.
I think Corbyn will take most of the union vote too. I don't see a standout Blairite candidate. Instead it could be 2-3 of them competing which strengthens Corbyn.
Corbyn should therefore win any leadership contest. He then has to take more effective control of the PLP. If they won't back him this time after a second successful leadership election he has to push Cameron for a general election and deselect the disloyal mp's. But that then creates a labour party dominated by one section rather than a wider spectrum.
Could the Blairites form their own party? Possible.
For what its worth I disagree with a lot of Corbyns policies. I think his brand of socialism is unworkable and should be consigned to the past.
However the people deserve a genuine choice at the ballot box rather than the same choice wearing different coloured ties.
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Rian · 27 Jun 2016 18:35
Rian · 27 Jun 2016 18:3527 Jun 2016 19:30:30
I'd be worried by that Frankie. They're going to use every trick in the book to undermine the credibility of the result.
Read discussionI'd be worried by that Frankie. They're going to use every trick in the book to undermine the credibility of the result.
27 Jun 2016 01:09:07
hindus and sikhs came here, made a massive contribution and were some of the most respectful towards queen and country.
A lot that I knew that had family here before I was born voted out. Birmingham and Wolverhampton holds a big community there so they to did good for this country.
Read discussionhindus and sikhs came here, made a massive contribution and were some of the most respectful towards queen and country.
A lot that I knew that had family here before I was born voted out. Birmingham and Wolverhampton holds a big community there so they to did good for this country.
26 Jun 2016 17:17:02
Glad u pointed that out Kim, I'm in wolves, people bang on about how multicultural London is, try wolves and bham, it will open your eyes, and I'll be honest was shocked when the results came out and both cities had voted out.
Read discussionGlad u pointed that out Kim, I'm in wolves, people bang on about how multicultural London is, try wolves and bham, it will open your eyes, and I'll be honest was shocked when the results came out and both cities had voted out.
26 Jun 2016 00:31:27
Ed its the Thracian peninsula. Technically its Greek going back to Alexander. Turkeys just occupying it for the last 500 years.
Sanogo the main parts of Russia are in Europe.
Franky Birmingham and Wolverhampton are both multicultural and voted leave.
Read discussionEd its the Thracian peninsula. Technically its Greek going back to Alexander. Turkeys just occupying it for the last 500 years.
Sanogo the main parts of Russia are in Europe.
Franky Birmingham and Wolverhampton are both multicultural and voted leave.
25 Jun 2016 22:44:49
And that's enough to wave turkey into europe apparently, doesn't matter that the country is ran by religious zealots who have turned a blind eye to people using there borders to enter syria to join extremist groups, the Turk's have basically held Europe to ransom by allowing of millions of migrants to flood neighbouring countries, and the Eu elite wonder why we voted to leave and many other people on mainland Europe are now wanting the same.
It's not an easy thing to say, but it might be time for revolution, I think it's the only way to get these parasites to listen.
Read discussionAnd that's enough to wave turkey into europe apparently, doesn't matter that the country is ran by religious zealots who have turned a blind eye to people using there borders to enter syria to join extremist groups, the Turk's have basically held Europe to ransom by allowing of millions of migrants to flood neighbouring countries, and the Eu elite wonder why we voted to leave and many other people on mainland Europe are now wanting the same.
It's not an easy thing to say, but it might be time for revolution, I think it's the only way to get these parasites to listen.
25 Jun 2016 21:59:46
Yes frankie some good points mate
And agree with most.
Read discussionYes frankie some good points mate
And agree with most.
25 Jun 2016 19:52:35
And that will please turkey ed lol.
Read discussionAnd that will please turkey ed lol.
25 Jun 2016 19:09:33
lol that's just wrong sanogo
They will be very angry with you lol.
Read discussionlol that's just wrong sanogo
They will be very angry with you lol.