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Agreed zari nothing politically can be done apart from the odd mass demonstration.

Hey franky, I think all major election results are manipulated. To this we have the testimony of one of the programmers who was involved in the development of the voting software used in USA elections.

No one that would hinter the establishments agenda will be allowed to occupy a position of power. Some of them (JFK etc. ) turn afterwards, but they are promptly silenced and/or removed.

Political parties are based on the concept of partitioning. That which divides society is by definition doing so without society's best interests at heart.

Anon, in regards to human vulnerability to the manipulation of their insecurities, the expression "nothing left to loose" springs to mind. When one overcomes basic insecurities and ignorance, they overcome fear. That is how one achieves freedom/sovereignty. Once one is out of the box, one knows how to not be boxed again.
zari

Skeletons in the closet can also be created if need be. No one is bullet proof to any stories that can be created.

That's what got me thinking mate, countries around most of the world are being lead by parties that have not there best interests at heart, they are pandering to the elite-st and let's say there was a figure a iconic figure who grabbed every ones attention like say MLK the establishment simply would not allow it, there would be to much to lose, could you imagine Assange getting elected?it would not happen either it would be another JFK scene or most likely they would downplay any support he had and lie, they are elected to lie/spin and like its been mentioned on this site the leaders of most countries all over the world know in advance they will lead there county twenty years or so in advance.

Yes Franky, if anyone wants to make money, invest in water. In some US states it's now apparently illegal to collect rainwater on your own property. We use rainwater to water all our indoor plants. If we were in the US we would be breaking the law. Sadly this stupid tax will cross the atlantic at some point.

Ryan.

Kj4778 just because it is called Southern Ireland by some people doesn't mean that is it's name. You know that as well as I do, but if you get off being pedantic then go for it. Whatever gets you over the line.

Ryan.

The link you posted the other day re Ukraine situation should answer this Franky. The geopolitical writer on the podcast said Nixon (I think) was put in place, and he said he didn't want to say voted in. I think almost all elections are rigged in some way. Look at the Australian political situation. We now have our own Obama. Making decisions that outrage the public and only serve corporations. He didn't stand on these policies but now pushes them on us. Something I doubt Labor would've.

Melbourne CFC

I assume it would be a lot easier to fix the result since the onset of postal voting, if need be.

Harold

Everyone has their price, everyone fears something and everyone has skeletons in the closet.

That said someone like him wold never be allowed to stand, too much of a threat.

06 Mar 2014 19:59:33
kj4778 you should visit Ukraine, something for everyone. Scenery, history, good food, better drink (try the peppered vodka) and of course the second most beautiful girls in the world. Just avoid Odessa.

Kim Philby

Thanks franky, I thought I knew of most of the evidence surrounding 9/11 but some of those examples were new to me. It's incredible that probably 99% of the population don't know about these very suspicious deaths.

Harold

Yeah good video and also regarding dead witnesses this is a good read

http://listverse.com/2011/08/18/top-10-witnesses-who-died-suddenly/

Water is/will be the new gold/oil in the non too distant future. I think the term is "blue gold"

06 Mar 2014 13:29:10
Wars have always been fought for the precious resource of the day. Today it gas and oil. In the future it could be water. You British once had a war with the Chinese over opium. Leaders will never change until the oppressed change. However the abused always kick downwards hence they distract you with sensational headlines making scapegoats of immigrants and benefits claimants.

Kim Philby

From what I have read and listened to the west of the Ukraine is predominantly forests and sell wood compared to the east were like you mentioned its industrial wealth plus it is rumored to have found gas reserves. in my opinion nato only wanted to get in the Ukraine to get a stranglehold of the east.
the thing that pisses me off is this is blatant and its happened time and time again, getting lied to while innocent people are getting murdered basically for oil/gas and it sickens me, the sooner we get rid of these psychopath leaders the better.

Ryan. Having lived in Northern Ireland most of my life I can indeed confirm that the country to the south is often called Southern Ireland. Sorry to be pedantic but I've even crossed the border and can testify to its existance. Never been to Ukraine though.
Kj4778

05 Mar 2014 18:42:59
Ah lots to say.

Ryan actually I agree, this been coming for awhile. The Black Sea fleet traditionally was the elite of the navy and happen to be based in Crimea. VP has indeed seen his chance. Russia is the strongest it has been in 20 years and the Americans are over committed elsewhere.

I also agree on your theory of an eu fastrack for the west.

Franky, the west has value. True the east is the industrial centre, but who knows, people value different things.

Ryan, all the best chess players are Russian;) I can't remember if he plays or not but I bet I would be a tough opponent.

One last thing. Remember Zari said he thought the Russians would go after the Chechen terrorists after the Olympics. What if this was a way to get the military on stand by, combat ready, close to the area of operations without arousing suspicion or even distracting everyone. You forget doctrine of maskirovka.

Kim Philby

Would have liked to have continued the discussion early this morning but the small matter of sleep and work got in the way.

The UK clearly do not view the situation as serious. We have not severed financial links with Russia (the only real way the rest of the world can respond) and have continued to push ahead with an £82m sale of guns and ammo.
Now that's not much of a punishment eh?

Eric.

I imagine Putin is quite the chess player.

Ryan.

It may well split up in to two but nato/usa are only interested east of the ukraine as the west has no real value.