Frank, I can't believe you are boasting and advising people to go bankrupt. Declaring yourself bankrupt is the last resort, however it's nothing to brag about. You purchased the goods, you got yourself in debt, you pay it off. Why should someone else pay it for you. It's people like you that has got this country in financial trouble. Be warned, those that are thinking of doing this, although it comes off your credit file in six years, banks can always see this and getting a mortgage will be a nightmare. The same goes for Iva
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No worries mate.
Read discussionThank you franky. I'll go through it and get back to you if I have any questions.
zari
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i can not speak for people who have a mortgage but imo the c.a.b is the best place for advice, that is where me and the mrs got advice, basically if you are struggling with bills credit cards/car payments/bank arrears etc etc and its over 6k you owe you can declare yourself bankrupt, you pay £400 pound (six years ago) pretty straight forward we went to the c.a.b gave them a list of creditors that we were in debt with and could not pay back, the c.a.b done the rest, one thing if you owe bank arrears it is advised to change banks and just get a current account with no overdraft a example the cooperative, you turn up to court and basically hand over your papers and pay the money, it can take up to six years to get your credit rating back but i personally know a person who was getting offered credit cards six months later, a tip if you have a credit card that you are arrears in, you can actually pay your mortgage costs £400 then you do not have to pay it back because you are bankrupt, (we sort of got a wink of the legal aid c.a.b adviser to do it/) my wife worked and was on a pretty good wage but we decided to declare ourselfs bankrupt and it was the best thing we done and it is not as scary as it sounds but seek the help of the c.a.b there is another route you can go if you do not want to go bankrupt and that is debt relief order which never really suited us, hope this helps?
http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0084-debt-relief-or-bankruptcy
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That is possible zari, another possibility was they were in a mk ultra program, I done a bit of research a few years ago and its near impossible to find anything about them apart from a school in a small town in Sweden that they went to, one of the twins lives in america now but its very hard to find out anything about her, conclusion who knows? but its not normal.
Read discussionHey franky, I think I have an explanation for what happened in this case.
New drugs are not discovered in blood tests, as the tests are not calibrated to look for them. This holds true for new doping agents that cannot be discovered until proper research has been conducted into them.
What they should have been searching for instead is lowered or increased hormone secretions, as these would provide evidence of the presence of mind altering substances.
The twins behavior, what appears as temporary psychosis, is similar to the effects of prolonged exposure to mind altering substances. Being under the influence of such substances for longer than 12 hours usually results in temporary paranoia.
What if they were given doses that would keep them high for months?
From their few recorded statements "I know who you are, you are not police. ", "They are going to steal our organs. " etc. that would be a logical appraisal of the situation.
Additionally, considering their spontaneous relapses into a paranoid state and the witnessed suppression of that state after the administration of sedatives, this points to exposure to such substances in the first instance and partial drug canceling in the second one.
The most interesting statements that could be used to support this case however, are those right before the murder.
She took back the cigarettes she offered the two guys saying "They could be poisoned. ". Then while he was preparing lunch for her she stabbed him, which could have something to do with her fear of being poisoned (again). In the same way some substances (sedatives) suppress the mind altering effects of the mind altering substances, others amplify them.
Caffeine, nicotine, cyanobalamins (red grapes) etc. act as MAOI's (monoamine oxidase inhibitors) which reactivate already ingested mind altering substances, e. g. Ayawasca.
Making the paranoid prone (prolonged exposed) to think they have been "re-poisoned".
In conclusion I would speculate they were slipped massive doses of mind altering substances which would explain their odd behavior, increased strength and peculiar statements.
This probably sounds as a far fetched scenario but I personally know someone who went through such an experience, behaved in the same way more or less (without the murder), made the same bizarre statements (fear of being poisoned) and returned to his previous "normal" state a few months later.
Zari
Read discussionNew drugs are not discovered in blood tests, as the tests are not calibrated to look for them. This holds true for new doping agents that cannot be discovered until proper research has been conducted into them.
What they should have been searching for instead is lowered or increased hormone secretions, as these would provide evidence of the presence of mind altering substances.
The twins behavior, what appears as temporary psychosis, is similar to the effects of prolonged exposure to mind altering substances. Being under the influence of such substances for longer than 12 hours usually results in temporary paranoia.
What if they were given doses that would keep them high for months?
From their few recorded statements "I know who you are, you are not police. ", "They are going to steal our organs. " etc. that would be a logical appraisal of the situation.
Additionally, considering their spontaneous relapses into a paranoid state and the witnessed suppression of that state after the administration of sedatives, this points to exposure to such substances in the first instance and partial drug canceling in the second one.
The most interesting statements that could be used to support this case however, are those right before the murder.
She took back the cigarettes she offered the two guys saying "They could be poisoned. ". Then while he was preparing lunch for her she stabbed him, which could have something to do with her fear of being poisoned (again). In the same way some substances (sedatives) suppress the mind altering effects of the mind altering substances, others amplify them.
Caffeine, nicotine, cyanobalamins (red grapes) etc. act as MAOI's (monoamine oxidase inhibitors) which reactivate already ingested mind altering substances, e. g. Ayawasca.
Making the paranoid prone (prolonged exposed) to think they have been "re-poisoned".
In conclusion I would speculate they were slipped massive doses of mind altering substances which would explain their odd behavior, increased strength and peculiar statements.
This probably sounds as a far fetched scenario but I personally know someone who went through such an experience, behaved in the same way more or less (without the murder), made the same bizarre statements (fear of being poisoned) and returned to his previous "normal" state a few months later.
Zari
Hey Franky, if it is not too personal of a situation that demands privacy, could you please share your advice here?
I have some friends who have been in debt for over 30 years now, still making their payments, to no avail as the loan interest and various fees keep pilling up, simply so as to maintain their small house.
Anyones personal experience in dealing with situations like these would be greatly appreciated.
Zari
Read discussionI have some friends who have been in debt for over 30 years now, still making their payments, to no avail as the loan interest and various fees keep pilling up, simply so as to maintain their small house.
Anyones personal experience in dealing with situations like these would be greatly appreciated.
Zari
Have you ever seen the documentary kim about the two twins from Sweden who got hit by a truck on the motorway in the uk? edd033 put the link on a year ago or more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et2ftMk_ODc
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11 Feb 2014 20:05:50
I'm not scientific but the stuff I have been reading suggests astral projection, immunity to disease and immortality.
I'm not aware of specific books but it seems most research is Russian, look up Pjotr Garjajev seems to be a few websites.
I can't remember what the Americans did with it, it was only talk, theory and the like. Comrades Yuri and Vladimir dismissed it as far fetched. I was inclined to agree but this was late 70's. Our main brief was technical data regards computers, we were a decade behind at the time. It was a good trip, I always trips to America and I tumbled my co worker as well.
If I may speculate, if the Americans tried anything involving research into frequency generation it would have been directed into more practical areas such as sonic weapons, maybe even haarp. But this is speculation. But given the budget they had, well you don't spend $50000 on a paintbrush.
Kim Philby
Read discussionI'm not scientific but the stuff I have been reading suggests astral projection, immunity to disease and immortality.
I'm not aware of specific books but it seems most research is Russian, look up Pjotr Garjajev seems to be a few websites.
I can't remember what the Americans did with it, it was only talk, theory and the like. Comrades Yuri and Vladimir dismissed it as far fetched. I was inclined to agree but this was late 70's. Our main brief was technical data regards computers, we were a decade behind at the time. It was a good trip, I always trips to America and I tumbled my co worker as well.
If I may speculate, if the Americans tried anything involving research into frequency generation it would have been directed into more practical areas such as sonic weapons, maybe even haarp. But this is speculation. But given the budget they had, well you don't spend $50000 on a paintbrush.
Kim Philby
What do you reckon would happed Kim? Any books you know of on that subject you could refer me to?
Zari
Read discussionZari
11 Feb 2014 13:52:49
I think the Americans experimented with something along those lines.
Kim Philby
Read discussionI think the Americans experimented with something along those lines.
Kim Philby
Does anyone have any extended knowledge of genetics?
Say rather than using chemicals (viral or protein mediated transduction) to insert/activate genes into someones dna, what would happen if one used frequencies to activate all of the inactive genes of ones dna?
What kind of information is in there but is inactive?
Zari
Read discussionSay rather than using chemicals (viral or protein mediated transduction) to insert/activate genes into someones dna, what would happen if one used frequencies to activate all of the inactive genes of ones dna?
What kind of information is in there but is inactive?
Zari
10 Feb 2014 21:27:09
Of course they did. They tried to do it naturally with their eugenics program but the results of the Lebensborn wouldn't be ready until the 50's. As they were the best chemists in the world they used that to try to cut corners.
At the close of the war, both west and east grabbed scientists. Operation Paperclip in the west. The Americans primarily went after physicists to work on rockets. The Americans wondered why we did not and instead targeted other specialists. The answer was we were getting the physics knowledge from our agents in American and British intelligence. But the Americans suspected something else.
Look at the films Rocky 4 and a view to a kill. I remember a meeting with my boss Vladimir and his boss Yuri after a "business" trip to Chicago. The topic of chemically enhanced soldier programs. Both sides suspected each other of such programs. Of course I cannot discuss the veracity of such programs.
Kim Philby
Read discussionOf course they did. They tried to do it naturally with their eugenics program but the results of the Lebensborn wouldn't be ready until the 50's. As they were the best chemists in the world they used that to try to cut corners.
At the close of the war, both west and east grabbed scientists. Operation Paperclip in the west. The Americans primarily went after physicists to work on rockets. The Americans wondered why we did not and instead targeted other specialists. The answer was we were getting the physics knowledge from our agents in American and British intelligence. But the Americans suspected something else.
Look at the films Rocky 4 and a view to a kill. I remember a meeting with my boss Vladimir and his boss Yuri after a "business" trip to Chicago. The topic of chemically enhanced soldier programs. Both sides suspected each other of such programs. Of course I cannot discuss the veracity of such programs.
Kim Philby
I agree guys this has prob been done in the 1930s by the nazis.
Read discussionJust checked and can't believe that Brave New World was actually written as far back as 1932. Looks like that article might have been written in 2001 btw.
Ryan.
Read discussionRyan.
10 Feb 2014 12:51:39
Mr Frankyscouser I would say for longer than that. You know of Operation Paperclip. All these super soldier films have a basis from somewhere.
Kim Philby
Read discussionMr Frankyscouser I would say for longer than that. You know of Operation Paperclip. All these super soldier films have a basis from somewhere.
Kim Philby
He's already turned down three different requests to clone a child? One of his students may not be so principled if it's as easy as he says.
Ryan.
Read discussionRyan.
Reminds me of the Halo story (the game) where they (scientists) were kidnapping children and genetically altering them to turn them into super humans (Spartans) by making them have significantly increased strength and intelligence.
Read discussionI was going to share a link to 38degrees but you beat me to it franky. I get updates from all the time on this gagging law since I signed a petition for them to stop fining parents for kids going on holiday in terms.
Read discussionCongratulations Franky.
Ryan.
Read discussionRyan.