12 Jul 2016 20:17:31
just read some of the Coudenhove-Kalergi piece, scary stuff, and looks like the plan is taking shape. However, I feel that with all the deceit ete the elites / establishment are dishing out, it will come and haunt them big time.
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11 Jul 2016 16:47:41
lol I know I got to sort it out
Cause I'm thinking of something in my personal view
I get carried away thinking everyone will know what I talk of.
Read discussionlol I know I got to sort it out
Cause I'm thinking of something in my personal view
I get carried away thinking everyone will know what I talk of.
11 Jul 2016 04:20:15
Sorry I should have write more clearly
Not the plan will not happen ed or rian
I was just saying I will not let my own cousins or friends
Jump on this and be played
That's what I meant by it will never happen
I've seen this last 20 years
You have to be asleep or blind to miss it.
Read discussionSorry I should have write more clearly
Not the plan will not happen ed or rian
I was just saying I will not let my own cousins or friends
Jump on this and be played
That's what I meant by it will never happen
I've seen this last 20 years
You have to be asleep or blind to miss it.
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Rian · 11 Jul 2016 01:26
Rian · 11 Jul 2016 01:2611 Jul 2016 01:49:56
And the moment you say I'm worried about this, ultimately it isn't healthy for either group, you're branded a racist.
And when is the last time anyone ever heard Kalergis name mentioned, never mind a debate on the disastrous impact the implementation of his philosophy is having on Europe.
If you think Ed033 is exaggerating about Sharia law take a closer look at what's been happening to Belgium in recent years.
Read discussionAnd the moment you say I'm worried about this, ultimately it isn't healthy for either group, you're branded a racist.
And when is the last time anyone ever heard Kalergis name mentioned, never mind a debate on the disastrous impact the implementation of his philosophy is having on Europe.
If you think Ed033 is exaggerating about Sharia law take a closer look at what's been happening to Belgium in recent years.
11 Jul 2016 00:17:07
Well as two of my cousins just found out
It will never happen
They have been givin every thing they could wish for
They have never been in trouble
They haven't never been involved in gangs
They have had good jobs becuase there dad run accountancy firm they get massive wages
But they still marched to and tried telling me I was wrong lol
I got mates where both parents where born here
But don't think they're English
And believe they are getting same treatment from the govt in our country
Delusional people.
Read discussionWell as two of my cousins just found out
It will never happen
They have been givin every thing they could wish for
They have never been in trouble
They haven't never been involved in gangs
They have had good jobs becuase there dad run accountancy firm they get massive wages
But they still marched to and tried telling me I was wrong lol
I got mates where both parents where born here
But don't think they're English
And believe they are getting same treatment from the govt in our country
Delusional people.
11 Jul 2016 00:18:35
In truth from what I see uk in that respect is reverse to America.
Read discussionIn truth from what I see uk in that respect is reverse to America.
Reply · Rian · 11 Jul 2016 00:15
Rian · 11 Jul 2016 00:1511 Jul 2016 00:49:18
Couden hove ever anticipated that.
Read discussionCouden hove ever anticipated that.
10 Jul 2016 22:45:01
It's the culture we now live in, where if you go to one of these marches you can go home with a warm fuzzy feeling inside. People believe they are a good human being if they attend these, it's far better to show it with how you treat people rather than a meaningless gathering.
People are not going to look at these marches and suddenly change the way they feel it just encourages a mob culture and incites more hate.
Read discussionIt's the culture we now live in, where if you go to one of these marches you can go home with a warm fuzzy feeling inside. People believe they are a good human being if they attend these, it's far better to show it with how you treat people rather than a meaningless gathering.
People are not going to look at these marches and suddenly change the way they feel it just encourages a mob culture and incites more hate.
08 Jul 2016 17:33:22
They tried to say this crap the othersay aswell
But a police inspector said on camera that there had been no increase
But do agree it is trying to push this to become reality.
Read discussionThey tried to say this crap the othersay aswell
But a police inspector said on camera that there had been no increase
But do agree it is trying to push this to become reality.
07 Jul 2016 16:49:58
It does make sense. Although I think he was more a joint venture between 5 and the Boys from the Farm. He's certainly had a huge effect in crippling the labour party.
I tend to usually take Shaylor with a pinch of salt as he has a tendency to inflate himself. But 5 has always been (rightly) obsessed with the communist influence in the labour party. If I remember correctly Shaylor's first job at 5 involved getting current and prospective labour candidates for the forthcoming general election on 1992. The Wall had come down, the satellites were free and USSR was in its death throes and the hunt the red under the bed game was still on.
I was part of a joint Lubyanka/ Foreign service delegation over here at the time in the months running up to the GE'92. Reassuring our friends in the trades unions and labour party that even though the USSR was gone Russia remained a friend. Blair at the time was being talked about as the rising star and a viable candidate for a junior ministerial role if Kinnock had won. And groomed for higher. It was my colleague that managed to get a brief chat with Blair. As I recall he wasn't impressed.
Read discussionIt does make sense. Although I think he was more a joint venture between 5 and the Boys from the Farm. He's certainly had a huge effect in crippling the labour party.
I tend to usually take Shaylor with a pinch of salt as he has a tendency to inflate himself. But 5 has always been (rightly) obsessed with the communist influence in the labour party. If I remember correctly Shaylor's first job at 5 involved getting current and prospective labour candidates for the forthcoming general election on 1992. The Wall had come down, the satellites were free and USSR was in its death throes and the hunt the red under the bed game was still on.
I was part of a joint Lubyanka/ Foreign service delegation over here at the time in the months running up to the GE'92. Reassuring our friends in the trades unions and labour party that even though the USSR was gone Russia remained a friend. Blair at the time was being talked about as the rising star and a viable candidate for a junior ministerial role if Kinnock had won. And groomed for higher. It was my colleague that managed to get a brief chat with Blair. As I recall he wasn't impressed.
07 Jul 2016 08:07:59
The Intel on Iraq came from a source who basically fabricated everything. What was it the report said, descriptions of weapons were more like Hollywood films versions than actual ones.
The point being who was this source. Did they just pay some random Iraqi to talk nonsense that they could pass off as genuine as they were so desperate to launch military action.
Read discussionThe Intel on Iraq came from a source who basically fabricated everything. What was it the report said, descriptions of weapons were more like Hollywood films versions than actual ones.
The point being who was this source. Did they just pay some random Iraqi to talk nonsense that they could pass off as genuine as they were so desperate to launch military action.
Reply · Rian · 06 Jul 2016 23:04
Rian · 06 Jul 2016 23:0406 Jul 2016 23:01:40
KP mentioned recently that he was rumoured to have worked with Christians in Action. It makes sense.
Read discussionKP mentioned recently that he was rumoured to have worked with Christians in Action. It makes sense.
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Mr.x · 06 Jul 2016 20:57
Mr.x · 06 Jul 2016 20:5706 Jul 2016 21:48:45
Probably backed by big business, America and multiple intelligence agencies. The Intel on the Iraqi war was flawed and exaggerated in order to sway the public into backing an invasion. The powers that helped him probably won't let him take the fall because they made a ton of money out of oil, defence contracts and the rebuilding of the country.
Read discussionProbably backed by big business, America and multiple intelligence agencies. The Intel on the Iraqi war was flawed and exaggerated in order to sway the public into backing an invasion. The powers that helped him probably won't let him take the fall because they made a ton of money out of oil, defence contracts and the rebuilding of the country.
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frankyscouser · 04 Jul 2016 15:44
frankyscouser · 04 Jul 2016 15:4404 Jul 2016 16:33:37
yes kim its only a matter of time, more chance of of me being in for brexit negotiations than farge .
he will coin in money as a political commentator now and put it in his offshore bank.
Read discussionyes kim its only a matter of time, more chance of of me being in for brexit negotiations than farge .
he will coin in money as a political commentator now and put it in his offshore bank.
04 Jul 2016 14:46:15
I like Rees-Mogg. He's a straight talker. No waffle.
On my understanding parliament does have to vote on it. But more as a rubber stamp. You'd expect them to vote as their constituents have indicated via the referendum.
I now fully expect both parties to break up.
Read discussionI like Rees-Mogg. He's a straight talker. No waffle.
On my understanding parliament does have to vote on it. But more as a rubber stamp. You'd expect them to vote as their constituents have indicated via the referendum.
I now fully expect both parties to break up.
04 Jul 2016 15:00:55
Farage has resigned from his post as leader of UKIP, any chance he is being lined up for Brexit negotiations?
Read discussionFarage has resigned from his post as leader of UKIP, any chance he is being lined up for Brexit negotiations?
Reply · frankyscouser · 04 Jul 2016 12:38
frankyscouser · 04 Jul 2016 12:3804 Jul 2016 13:24:18
Jacob Rees-Mogg basically said he has checked with very top lawyers and article 50 will be implemented, like I said before if they backtrack in any shape or form the tory party will split.
Read discussionJacob Rees-Mogg basically said he has checked with very top lawyers and article 50 will be implemented, like I said before if they backtrack in any shape or form the tory party will split.
02 Jul 2016 23:30:06
once he got into bed with George W Bush, everything he did achieve as labour leader has been forgotten, as he is now remembered as the prime minister who told us a pack of lies as regards to weapons of mass destruction, causing the deaths of innocent civillians of all age groups, just so dick cheney the real brains behind bush, could invade Iraq and take the heat away from 911, whose narrative was unravelling about what truly went on, that and the Dr David Kelly report is sadly for blair what we will remember him for, not as the only man in labour party history to win 3 consecutive general elections, now we wait for the chillcott report to destroy his legacy completely.
Read discussiononce he got into bed with George W Bush, everything he did achieve as labour leader has been forgotten, as he is now remembered as the prime minister who told us a pack of lies as regards to weapons of mass destruction, causing the deaths of innocent civillians of all age groups, just so dick cheney the real brains behind bush, could invade Iraq and take the heat away from 911, whose narrative was unravelling about what truly went on, that and the Dr David Kelly report is sadly for blair what we will remember him for, not as the only man in labour party history to win 3 consecutive general elections, now we wait for the chillcott report to destroy his legacy completely.
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Sanogolovesbentner · 02 Jul 2016 15:00
Sanogolovesbentner · 02 Jul 2016 15:0002 Jul 2016 15:58:48
I personally don't think he's the worst (depending on how you come to an assessment of 'worst') but he has definitely become the most unsuccessful.
Read discussionI personally don't think he's the worst (depending on how you come to an assessment of 'worst') but he has definitely become the most unsuccessful.