19 Oct 2015 08:05:16
Franky apparently chilcott has not seen this memo and there are calls to reopen the inquiry for the fresh evidence.
Its came out because I believe an American court demanded to see the emails.
Regards pmqs there's ways to phrase questions.
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18 Oct 2015 12:53:43
Fair enough. I have toothache so am a bit tetchy. Your dentists are shocking. Something I shall be bothering my elected representative with.
I agree questions should be asked. I just question the motives of some people in doing so. There is a lot of historical revisionism around on the right to try to make hitler seem less bad and the easiest way is the holocaust. Its the same we way the left worships Stalin. Bizarre.
Read discussionFair enough. I have toothache so am a bit tetchy. Your dentists are shocking. Something I shall be bothering my elected representative with.
I agree questions should be asked. I just question the motives of some people in doing so. There is a lot of historical revisionism around on the right to try to make hitler seem less bad and the easiest way is the holocaust. Its the same we way the left worships Stalin. Bizarre.
18 Oct 2015 12:42:47
If you mean corbyn he needs to win an election in just over 4 and a half years time. Its by no means a certainty and a lot can happen.
By that time who knows what may have happened and what else will have come out. A weeks a long time in politics 4 years us an eternity.
Maybe if Corbyn raises it at pmqs and pushes for a response from Cameron. Maybe some of you should email it in as a question.
Read discussionIf you mean corbyn he needs to win an election in just over 4 and a half years time. Its by no means a certainty and a lot can happen.
By that time who knows what may have happened and what else will have come out. A weeks a long time in politics 4 years us an eternity.
Maybe if Corbyn raises it at pmqs and pushes for a response from Cameron. Maybe some of you should email it in as a question.
18 Oct 2015 10:06:28
I'm in no way politically correct.
Lets get one thing straight. The nazis were filth. Eugenics is disgusting. The idea of removing people from the gene pool because they don't fit some ideal version is reprehensible.
It doesn't matter if they murdered sixty thousand or six million. Its just a statistic. Its the act itself that matters. It's the thought process behind it. What annoys me is the fixation on the Jewish victims to the exclusion of everyone else. I. e. the disabled, the homosexual, the political opponents.
There are literally thousands of items of evidence that this happened yet for some reason there is a group of hitler apologists out there trying to discredit events. In itself this is a conspiracy. I question the motive.
And also not to mention the other crimes perpetuated by the nazi regime. In creating such a regime which allowed the erosion of basic human decency and encouraging the view of your enemies as sub human this created an environment where the likes of Oradour or Wormhoudt could happen.
As someone said above psychopaths usually end up in charge. I think that says a lot about the human race.
Stalin, Yezhov, Beria, Hitler, Himmler, Amin, Mao, Milosevic. There have been many monsters who's underlings have committed atrocities in the name of some misguided ideal. What about the Americans at My Lai or Fallujah. Pick a terrorist group. The human race can't help itself.
Back to Hitler. Whatever his redeeming points he still started a war with the intention of conquering a large part of my country and removing by any means a large part of the population in order to create living room for the Germans. This is undeniable. Twenty million of my countrymen and women died in this war for one lunatics dream of empire. That's a third of the population of this island. Yet some people defend him.
Read discussionI'm in no way politically correct.
Lets get one thing straight. The nazis were filth. Eugenics is disgusting. The idea of removing people from the gene pool because they don't fit some ideal version is reprehensible.
It doesn't matter if they murdered sixty thousand or six million. Its just a statistic. Its the act itself that matters. It's the thought process behind it. What annoys me is the fixation on the Jewish victims to the exclusion of everyone else. I. e. the disabled, the homosexual, the political opponents.
There are literally thousands of items of evidence that this happened yet for some reason there is a group of hitler apologists out there trying to discredit events. In itself this is a conspiracy. I question the motive.
And also not to mention the other crimes perpetuated by the nazi regime. In creating such a regime which allowed the erosion of basic human decency and encouraging the view of your enemies as sub human this created an environment where the likes of Oradour or Wormhoudt could happen.
As someone said above psychopaths usually end up in charge. I think that says a lot about the human race.
Stalin, Yezhov, Beria, Hitler, Himmler, Amin, Mao, Milosevic. There have been many monsters who's underlings have committed atrocities in the name of some misguided ideal. What about the Americans at My Lai or Fallujah. Pick a terrorist group. The human race can't help itself.
Back to Hitler. Whatever his redeeming points he still started a war with the intention of conquering a large part of my country and removing by any means a large part of the population in order to create living room for the Germans. This is undeniable. Twenty million of my countrymen and women died in this war for one lunatics dream of empire. That's a third of the population of this island. Yet some people defend him.
18 Oct 2015 09:46:32
We all expected it but now the evidence is out in public. What happens next will be interesting.
Read discussionWe all expected it but now the evidence is out in public. What happens next will be interesting.
18 Oct 2015 00:02:21
Some interesting stuff. Leaked White House memo shows that while Tony Blair was saying they were still looking for a peaceful solution, he had already signed up to war with Iraq one year before the invasion.
http://goo.gl/59v1GP
17 Oct 2015 17:32:27
The majority of these migrants are overwhelming young men. You see the streams of them and its 95% young men. The cameras though hunt out the women with kids.
Read discussionThe majority of these migrants are overwhelming young men. You see the streams of them and its 95% young men. The cameras though hunt out the women with kids.
17 Oct 2015 17:09:48
I don't think of it in terms of right or wrong. Too many shades of grey. Stalin was a paranoid psychopath who saw enemies everywhere and the people suffered with his demands for quotas of traitors to be rounded up. Millions died through collectivisation. But industrialisation turned the soviet union into a world power. Was him winning the war a better or worse result than hitler?
Both have good and bad points. Both caused suffering for millions.
Many on the british left hero worship Stalin despite his actions. Yet he was arguably a bigger monster than hitler.
Read discussionI don't think of it in terms of right or wrong. Too many shades of grey. Stalin was a paranoid psychopath who saw enemies everywhere and the people suffered with his demands for quotas of traitors to be rounded up. Millions died through collectivisation. But industrialisation turned the soviet union into a world power. Was him winning the war a better or worse result than hitler?
Both have good and bad points. Both caused suffering for millions.
Many on the british left hero worship Stalin despite his actions. Yet he was arguably a bigger monster than hitler.
17 Oct 2015 09:44:48
Expulsion is one thing. Genocide is something totally different. Especially as you say of a people themselves not evil. And given that its a small cabal of Jews how many of them were affected?
Also you can argue that hitler himself was a Zionist agent. More than likely unwittingly. But where did the money come from? Who backed him?
The soviet union wasn't on the Zionist side. More just used to do the hard work. After the revolution most of the émigrés were rich Jews. Stalin on a couple of occasions purged the party of Jews. The Russian empire was the most anti Semitic country in Europe. The only time russia has ever been anywhere near the Zionist camp has been in the immediate post soviet era. When the banks had Yeltsin by the balls. I wouldn't describe Putin as a Zionist same as I wouldn't describe stalin as a Zionist.
Read discussionExpulsion is one thing. Genocide is something totally different. Especially as you say of a people themselves not evil. And given that its a small cabal of Jews how many of them were affected?
Also you can argue that hitler himself was a Zionist agent. More than likely unwittingly. But where did the money come from? Who backed him?
The soviet union wasn't on the Zionist side. More just used to do the hard work. After the revolution most of the émigrés were rich Jews. Stalin on a couple of occasions purged the party of Jews. The Russian empire was the most anti Semitic country in Europe. The only time russia has ever been anywhere near the Zionist camp has been in the immediate post soviet era. When the banks had Yeltsin by the balls. I wouldn't describe Putin as a Zionist same as I wouldn't describe stalin as a Zionist.
17 Oct 2015 09:55:46
Also I don't like this revisionism of hitler as some sort of visionary.
Yes the man had several redeeming characteristics. Yes he was one of the greatest politicians ever and the finest orator the world has seen. One can respect an opponent even if you disagree or condemn them.
But let's not forget he was responsible for one of the vilest regimes ever to infect the planet. A regime that murdered millions. And not just the Jews. Gypsies, homosexuals, mentally and physically handicapped, were these Zionists? The millions of Poles, Ukrainians and Russians killed just because they were slavs? Communists?
Sure you can argue that it was all faked. But its there in black and white. Mein kampf. The Nuremberg laws. The t4 programme. The memoirs and testimonies of people who were there.
No people has suffered as much in the 20th century as the Russians. Imperialism, revolution, civil war, famine, Stalin, hitler, communism.
Read discussionAlso I don't like this revisionism of hitler as some sort of visionary.
Yes the man had several redeeming characteristics. Yes he was one of the greatest politicians ever and the finest orator the world has seen. One can respect an opponent even if you disagree or condemn them.
But let's not forget he was responsible for one of the vilest regimes ever to infect the planet. A regime that murdered millions. And not just the Jews. Gypsies, homosexuals, mentally and physically handicapped, were these Zionists? The millions of Poles, Ukrainians and Russians killed just because they were slavs? Communists?
Sure you can argue that it was all faked. But its there in black and white. Mein kampf. The Nuremberg laws. The t4 programme. The memoirs and testimonies of people who were there.
No people has suffered as much in the 20th century as the Russians. Imperialism, revolution, civil war, famine, Stalin, hitler, communism.
17 Oct 2015 10:15:17
Anyway i'd like to go back to the original point.
Putin is a strong leader. People respond to strong leaders. Obama is one of the weakest presidents I've ever seen. Easily the weakest since Carter. Whereas Bush jr was stupid (although winning 2 elections is not something accomplished by an idiot) Obama is viewed as weak in many places around the world. Putin knows he just has to push and Obama will fold. For now Putin is picking fights he knows he can win but is avoiding anything he expects resistance to. At some point he will get over confident and push too hard. Sound familiar?
Read discussionAnyway i'd like to go back to the original point.
Putin is a strong leader. People respond to strong leaders. Obama is one of the weakest presidents I've ever seen. Easily the weakest since Carter. Whereas Bush jr was stupid (although winning 2 elections is not something accomplished by an idiot) Obama is viewed as weak in many places around the world. Putin knows he just has to push and Obama will fold. For now Putin is picking fights he knows he can win but is avoiding anything he expects resistance to. At some point he will get over confident and push too hard. Sound familiar?
17 Oct 2015 13:00:03
Some people are only happy when others are miserable.
Read discussionSome people are only happy when others are miserable.
17 Oct 2015 10:06:50
Disgusting. i'd say worse than arms dealers. This is peoples health they're profiteering off.
Read discussionDisgusting. i'd say worse than arms dealers. This is peoples health they're profiteering off.
16 Oct 2015 22:09:45
That's if you accept there were only 2 sides in ww2. There were 3.
Read discussionThat's if you accept there were only 2 sides in ww2. There were 3.
14 Oct 2015 12:53:53
It must be a cultural age thing.
Read discussionIt must be a cultural age thing.
13 Oct 2015 21:50:58
Sensory deprivation tanks? You do know they were used by the kgb as an interrogation technique? Far more effective than torture. Sorry digressing a bit there.
Music fits the mood. I find Beethoven and Mozart work quite well.
Read discussionSensory deprivation tanks? You do know they were used by the kgb as an interrogation technique? Far more effective than torture. Sorry digressing a bit there.
Music fits the mood. I find Beethoven and Mozart work quite well.
13 Oct 2015 18:17:09
Yes classical is so much better. Also Chinese music and one time I was out shopping and there were some native Americans possibly Navajo doing dome street performance. Very relaxing music and chanting. I'll pass on the drugs though.
Read discussionYes classical is so much better. Also Chinese music and one time I was out shopping and there were some native Americans possibly Navajo doing dome street performance. Very relaxing music and chanting. I'll pass on the drugs though.
13 Oct 2015 15:58:26
In order to sell it the usual tory interests it won't work by saying its medicinal. But by saying its for tax raising then they'll be able to sell it as a policy. Especially if the tax money goes on various other tory policies. And if they have notice to buy shares in whichever companies get the licences.
Read discussionIn order to sell it the usual tory interests it won't work by saying its medicinal. But by saying its for tax raising then they'll be able to sell it as a policy. Especially if the tax money goes on various other tory policies. And if they have notice to buy shares in whichever companies get the licences.
13 Oct 2015 15:58:50
I prefer vodka, classical music and a good book.
Read discussionI prefer vodka, classical music and a good book.
12 Oct 2015 20:53:19
Explains the royal family
Read discussionExplains the royal family