29 Sep 2015 18:10:25
Most likely not no. But its the same on all sides too much self interest and that's not the socialism I was brought up with.
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29 Sep 2015 13:39:02
The whole arab spring was just such an attempt zari. Whether it was stirred up or not there was genuine dissatisfaction across the arab world with those in control. As has been said on here before an oppressed people will only take so much. Assad was given encouragement and has clung on. The vacuum allowed Isis to pop up because there are always plenty of thugs who want free rein to rape and maim and plenty of gullible idiots to brainwash.
Also whether you like it or not the current leaders of most of those countries you listed were chosen by those countries. I seem to remember Cameron Obama and Putin each winning millions of votes. Who voted for Assad?
As I've said on here before I've actually been to both Baghdad and Damascus and some the things I saw left me feeling sick.
Sure there's a lot wrong with the systems in place in Britain America and Russia. Sure personal freedom is slowly bring eroded. But some places are in a lot worse a shape.
All I'm saying is that as the do called responsible countries of the world we should maybe for once actually live up to our responsibility. Too often we've sat back and watched it happen. How many more Rwanda's or Srebrenica's do we have to sit and watch.
Once people protested and demanded action. Now we have yobs throwing paint at cereal cafes and thinking that's a protest.
As I've said I've been to Damascus. Nice place very nice people. Look at it now. Just look at what is happening there caused by sides. Is this acceptable. Do we leave that going on just to satisfy some phony ideological bullocks (right word?) rather than fo the decent thing and end it and save lives and let them decide themselves what they want
Read discussionThe whole arab spring was just such an attempt zari. Whether it was stirred up or not there was genuine dissatisfaction across the arab world with those in control. As has been said on here before an oppressed people will only take so much. Assad was given encouragement and has clung on. The vacuum allowed Isis to pop up because there are always plenty of thugs who want free rein to rape and maim and plenty of gullible idiots to brainwash.
Also whether you like it or not the current leaders of most of those countries you listed were chosen by those countries. I seem to remember Cameron Obama and Putin each winning millions of votes. Who voted for Assad?
As I've said on here before I've actually been to both Baghdad and Damascus and some the things I saw left me feeling sick.
Sure there's a lot wrong with the systems in place in Britain America and Russia. Sure personal freedom is slowly bring eroded. But some places are in a lot worse a shape.
All I'm saying is that as the do called responsible countries of the world we should maybe for once actually live up to our responsibility. Too often we've sat back and watched it happen. How many more Rwanda's or Srebrenica's do we have to sit and watch.
Once people protested and demanded action. Now we have yobs throwing paint at cereal cafes and thinking that's a protest.
As I've said I've been to Damascus. Nice place very nice people. Look at it now. Just look at what is happening there caused by sides. Is this acceptable. Do we leave that going on just to satisfy some phony ideological bullocks (right word?) rather than fo the decent thing and end it and save lives and let them decide themselves what they want
29 Sep 2015 08:09:56
Franky we don't have to assume.
Read discussionFranky we don't have to assume.
29 Sep 2015 00:24:44
Its fairly certain he's used gas. Both sides have been committing atrocities.
For once i'd just like to see the united nations actually do the things it was supposedly founded for. Instead of just being a talking shop for psychopaths and dictators. If it takes Putin to push it into action then fine ill take the irony.
Read discussionIts fairly certain he's used gas. Both sides have been committing atrocities.
For once i'd just like to see the united nations actually do the things it was supposedly founded for. Instead of just being a talking shop for psychopaths and dictators. If it takes Putin to push it into action then fine ill take the irony.
29 Sep 2015 00:26:12
And yes bush and Blair should answer the case on Iraq.
Read discussionAnd yes bush and Blair should answer the case on Iraq.
28 Sep 2015 23:18:07
Oh and Putin has always been that way. Very determined. I'll give him that. Shame about all the civil and human rights abuses over the last decade.
Read discussionOh and Putin has always been that way. Very determined. I'll give him that. Shame about all the civil and human rights abuses over the last decade.
28 Sep 2015 23:10:58
[Franky], Not at all. I do agree with Vladimir on this one. We need an international coalition to end the bloodshed. But that means both sides not just Isis. Defeat them remove Assad and put the UN in charge to rebuild the country until they decide themselves what they want to do. Self determination was one of the founding principles after all. After all Syria is already in chaos.
Yes I know America protects the Saudis. And i'd love to see the house of saud toppled but not if the replacement is an even worse nightmare like aq or Isis.
Read discussion[Franky], Not at all. I do agree with Vladimir on this one. We need an international coalition to end the bloodshed. But that means both sides not just Isis. Defeat them remove Assad and put the UN in charge to rebuild the country until they decide themselves what they want to do. Self determination was one of the founding principles after all. After all Syria is already in chaos.
Yes I know America protects the Saudis. And i'd love to see the house of saud toppled but not if the replacement is an even worse nightmare like aq or Isis.
28 Sep 2015 23:13:17
Do you not think assad should stand trial for his crimes of the last few years?
Read discussionDo you not think assad should stand trial for his crimes of the last few years?
28 Sep 2015 20:56:41
Putins trying to protect one of his biggest clients who happens to be one of the largest dictators in the region. A mass murderer. I agree we all need to work together to stabilise the region. But Assad isn't part of the solution.
Read discussionPutins trying to protect one of his biggest clients who happens to be one of the largest dictators in the region. A mass murderer. I agree we all need to work together to stabilise the region. But Assad isn't part of the solution.
28 Sep 2015 12:43:48
Yes, the soviets had their own version of paperclip. Not to mention various assets in the American programs.
Read discussionYes, the soviets had their own version of paperclip. Not to mention various assets in the American programs.
27 Sep 2015 22:45:52
Its the whole thing of as soon as they hit trouble they dig in to return fire but then become static and pinned down. Like in black hawk down. The British army is trained to find the weak point and force their way through. The Russian army just takes it head on takes the casualties and forces their way through. The Americans by going static invited more casualties. Bad tactical doctrine.
Read discussionIts the whole thing of as soon as they hit trouble they dig in to return fire but then become static and pinned down. Like in black hawk down. The British army is trained to find the weak point and force their way through. The Russian army just takes it head on takes the casualties and forces their way through. The Americans by going static invited more casualties. Bad tactical doctrine.
27 Sep 2015 22:41:23
Leftovers from Paperclip franky?
Read discussionLeftovers from Paperclip franky?
26 Sep 2015 22:13:35
I think whoever trains the American military to be so stupid must surely be some sort of conspiracy. Watching black hawk down and its amazing the arrogance, incompetence and stupidity. If that had been Russian or British army it would have been over in 30 minutes. How on earth do they have this reputation of military prowess. Just explaining to mr philby the errors in their tactical doctrine.
24 Sep 2015 21:34:07
It depends how its used. Like anything really. If its used positively like this for example to help someone walk then good. If it could be used to turn people into weapons then not so good. But you can say the same about education, religion, hypnotherapy. Its not the science itself its the people.
Read discussionIt depends how its used. Like anything really. If its used positively like this for example to help someone walk then good. If it could be used to turn people into weapons then not so good. But you can say the same about education, religion, hypnotherapy. Its not the science itself its the people.
21 Sep 2015 16:51:22
Your already unofficially in Syria.
Read discussionYour already unofficially in Syria.
21 Sep 2015 18:05:37
She was a lovely young girl. Very considerate. But I do wonder about anyone who grows up wanting to put the fingers in someone else mouth as a career. Especially as it causes pain. Thank god for vodka.
Read discussionShe was a lovely young girl. Very considerate. But I do wonder about anyone who grows up wanting to put the fingers in someone else mouth as a career. Especially as it causes pain. Thank god for vodka.
20 Sep 2015 13:32:39
Depends where you cross. And as you say you didn't go to Serbia.
Read discussionDepends where you cross. And as you say you didn't go to Serbia.
19 Sep 2015 14:19:22
I don't know why people bother with torture. Just send people to a British dentists.
17 Sep 2015 21:34:06
Yes franky I know I used to hand over funds from Moscow to certain figures in both the labour party and the trades unions.
The point is any party contains a spectrum moving from the extreme to the centre. Corybn is firmly on the extreme of the party. The blairite faction is supposedly towards the centre.
And yes I agree with the other guy regards parties having too much power and influence.
Read discussionYes franky I know I used to hand over funds from Moscow to certain figures in both the labour party and the trades unions.
The point is any party contains a spectrum moving from the extreme to the centre. Corybn is firmly on the extreme of the party. The blairite faction is supposedly towards the centre.
And yes I agree with the other guy regards parties having too much power and influence.
17 Sep 2015 17:34:55
Yes the boys at Langley are massively in the drugs trade hence involvement in Indochina and Afghanistan.
The interconnections between the military industrial complex, via and big business not just the pharma
Read discussionYes the boys at Langley are massively in the drugs trade hence involvement in Indochina and Afghanistan.
The interconnections between the military industrial complex, via and big business not just the pharma