09 Sep 2015 16:27:36
Are people going to do this for every foreign leader that visits London?
After all there's a few others equally indictable as well.
I remember the anti Pinochet protests several years ago. Another of your more shameful periods supporting him.
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08 Sep 2015 23:13:11
That's a bit creepy
Read discussionThat's a bit creepy
08 Sep 2015 21:14:40
You have to be 100% behind someone to stab them in the back
Read discussionYou have to be 100% behind someone to stab them in the back
08 Sep 2015 17:11:43
Thanks. Interesting escalation.
Read discussionThanks. Interesting escalation.
08 Sep 2015 13:43:44
Source?
Just wondering who's reporting that.
Read discussionSource?
Just wondering who's reporting that.
08 Sep 2015 13:44:56
Just thought i'd share it for ufologists on here.
Read discussionJust thought i'd share it for ufologists on here.
07 Sep 2015 20:19:15
I was going to use the Obama example.
I think you're expecting too much from corbyn, franky.
Read discussionI was going to use the Obama example.
I think you're expecting too much from corbyn, franky.
07 Sep 2015 17:01:01
What do you think of this:
https://goo.gl/33NDBt
07 Sep 2015 16:01:17
I do think it was stage managed. After all if they can stage a high school shooting in America to push an aim they can stage a photo op of a dead child.
I agree they are now pushing intervention in Syria. Is this because they are now worried by Russian involvement in the area?
Corbyn will be interesting as he's pushing for closer ties with Russia.
Read discussionI do think it was stage managed. After all if they can stage a high school shooting in America to push an aim they can stage a photo op of a dead child.
I agree they are now pushing intervention in Syria. Is this because they are now worried by Russian involvement in the area?
Corbyn will be interesting as he's pushing for closer ties with Russia.
07 Sep 2015 15:49:51
I see Syrian state tv is saying that Russian troops are fighting along side Assads forces.
If true what do people think?
Also John Kerry has raised concerns on the new airbase being built in Syria by Russia. Hypocritical given the bases they have in the region.
07 Sep 2015 12:07:26
Don't think they have to push too hard.
Read discussionDon't think they have to push too hard.
06 Sep 2015 17:35:30
Fair enough but we can prove the political level. Anything above that is speculation. Certainly well informed speculation but can you prove it? If we could would we be sat here now?
Read discussionFair enough but we can prove the political level. Anything above that is speculation. Certainly well informed speculation but can you prove it? If we could would we be sat here now?
06 Sep 2015 17:44:47
Regards corbyn his own associations will provide enough ammunition for his opponents.
I applaud him for his refusal to once share a platform with Nick griffin of the bnp saying he doesn't stand on stage with racists. Now that's a great principle. Griffin and his cohorts are pond slime.
But he's shared a platform with Islamic fundamentalists many of whom hold views as abhorrent as Nick griffin, certainly in terms of misogyny, homophobia, and racism.
So what's the difference? Where's the principle there?
I get the argument that to sort out the issues you have to engage with this sort of person. But it looks too much like he supports these people with his claims that the likes of Hamas and Hezbollah are harmless. Truth is they're fanatics with a publicly admitted aim of genocide. Now if they stuck to something along the lines of we're just fighting to preserve our people and obtain our homeland etc and made the Israelis look like the aggressors that they are they could get more support. But an avowed aim of achieving that homeland by genocide is unsupportable. And by associating with such people damages both corbyn and the labour party.
Read discussionRegards corbyn his own associations will provide enough ammunition for his opponents.
I applaud him for his refusal to once share a platform with Nick griffin of the bnp saying he doesn't stand on stage with racists. Now that's a great principle. Griffin and his cohorts are pond slime.
But he's shared a platform with Islamic fundamentalists many of whom hold views as abhorrent as Nick griffin, certainly in terms of misogyny, homophobia, and racism.
So what's the difference? Where's the principle there?
I get the argument that to sort out the issues you have to engage with this sort of person. But it looks too much like he supports these people with his claims that the likes of Hamas and Hezbollah are harmless. Truth is they're fanatics with a publicly admitted aim of genocide. Now if they stuck to something along the lines of we're just fighting to preserve our people and obtain our homeland etc and made the Israelis look like the aggressors that they are they could get more support. But an avowed aim of achieving that homeland by genocide is unsupportable. And by associating with such people damages both corbyn and the labour party.
06 Sep 2015 17:48:43
Lastly I believe an element of the Saud family knew of the plan, approved it and supported it. But its a large family.
That bin laden received help from both contacts inside the Saud family and the business that farms in Virginia as well.
Read discussionLastly I believe an element of the Saud family knew of the plan, approved it and supported it. But its a large family.
That bin laden received help from both contacts inside the Saud family and the business that farms in Virginia as well.
06 Sep 2015 12:20:33
Well its Saudi funded and there funds come from the petrol.
The difficulty for me is how you balance the pro Zionist faction working with an anti Zionist faction to create Isis.
Read discussionWell its Saudi funded and there funds come from the petrol.
The difficulty for me is how you balance the pro Zionist faction working with an anti Zionist faction to create Isis.
06 Sep 2015 10:05:23
The Assad regime is a nasty piece of work. As I've said before I have spent time in the middle east as part of a diplomatic fact finding mission, with special relevance to certain topics that are classified. This took in trips to Damascus, Baghdad, and others. Now ill state i'm not an arab specialist, I was there partly because it was a crap assignment that no one wanted and I was at the time in the dog house. But also because I wasn't an arabist I was also an unbiased observer.
Bear in mind as a soviet citizen I was used to seeing people fear a secret police. But the middle east was a whole different level. I certainly didn't shed any tears for Hussein.
Now let's agree that the arab spring was stirred up by certain intelligence agencies. The fact remains that the conditions had to exist for people to be receptive. And anyone living under a dictatorship will be receptive. As the editor said the other day an imposed regime will always collapse.
Now for me the interesting thing is two years ago. When the west wanted to intervene but were blocked. The resulting vacuum created Isis and the refugee crisis.
Read discussionThe Assad regime is a nasty piece of work. As I've said before I have spent time in the middle east as part of a diplomatic fact finding mission, with special relevance to certain topics that are classified. This took in trips to Damascus, Baghdad, and others. Now ill state i'm not an arab specialist, I was there partly because it was a crap assignment that no one wanted and I was at the time in the dog house. But also because I wasn't an arabist I was also an unbiased observer.
Bear in mind as a soviet citizen I was used to seeing people fear a secret police. But the middle east was a whole different level. I certainly didn't shed any tears for Hussein.
Now let's agree that the arab spring was stirred up by certain intelligence agencies. The fact remains that the conditions had to exist for people to be receptive. And anyone living under a dictatorship will be receptive. As the editor said the other day an imposed regime will always collapse.
Now for me the interesting thing is two years ago. When the west wanted to intervene but were blocked. The resulting vacuum created Isis and the refugee crisis.
05 Sep 2015 09:15:27
Id also question how many are genuine refugees. There's plenty of safe neighbouring countries where they'd fit in more easily due to religious, cultural and ethnic similarities. Also they cross several safe countries to try and reach Germany. What's so special about Germany. Shows that a significant proportion are economic migrants. I've nothing against people moving to better there lives but call it as it is.
Read discussionId also question how many are genuine refugees. There's plenty of safe neighbouring countries where they'd fit in more easily due to religious, cultural and ethnic similarities. Also they cross several safe countries to try and reach Germany. What's so special about Germany. Shows that a significant proportion are economic migrants. I've nothing against people moving to better there lives but call it as it is.
05 Sep 2015 08:59:13
Maybe this is just me and I'm old and paranoid. But all week most people including your prime minister has been no more migrants then after 1 dead boy on a beach and the resulting outcry the whole positions reversed. Just strikes me as too convenient.
I'm not saying you shouldn't fulfill your moral obligations regards genuine refugees. Just find this a bit suspicious.
Read discussionMaybe this is just me and I'm old and paranoid. But all week most people including your prime minister has been no more migrants then after 1 dead boy on a beach and the resulting outcry the whole positions reversed. Just strikes me as too convenient.
I'm not saying you shouldn't fulfill your moral obligations regards genuine refugees. Just find this a bit suspicious.
04 Sep 2015 21:25:35
It sounds a bit hp Lovecraft or terry pratchett. But then fiction is based on legend and all legend surely has some basis in reality.
Maybe they do attempt it maybe they achieve it.
Let us assume millenia ago extra terrestrial trans dimensional beings did visit this planet. Taught our ancestors then left promising to return but warning of another alien faction. Our ancestors try to communicate this information but can only do it through symbolism which over time the meaning has been corrupted into todays religions.
Read discussionIt sounds a bit hp Lovecraft or terry pratchett. But then fiction is based on legend and all legend surely has some basis in reality.
Maybe they do attempt it maybe they achieve it.
Let us assume millenia ago extra terrestrial trans dimensional beings did visit this planet. Taught our ancestors then left promising to return but warning of another alien faction. Our ancestors try to communicate this information but can only do it through symbolism which over time the meaning has been corrupted into todays religions.
04 Sep 2015 19:41:40
I'm not saying you should. I was just pointing out that your both talking about people being possessed by demons.
I don't subscribe to the theory myself.
But it is interesting.
Read discussionI'm not saying you should. I was just pointing out that your both talking about people being possessed by demons.
I don't subscribe to the theory myself.
But it is interesting.