22 Nov 2021 19:51:05
Ed, I appreciate your well thought out and detailed response and I am grateful you can put the time in.
I am not particularly religious, more spiritual I would say and do think religion and their more extreme followers (those that can only see a literal interpretation rather than the parabolic one intended) do far more harm than good. However I have read religious texts such as the bible and you can get an instinct for the true and authentic parts that give us clues. Same with anything really, you have to listen to your inner self to see what resonates.
I take your point that mainstream science can be flawed and I probably still pay too much attention to certain areas, especially as we have all discovered fundamental scientific areas of outright lies, errors or complete fallacies.
Many thanks for keeping me thinking, it's not often these days that I get the chance to discuss theories with someone that is probably further down the path than I am :)
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21 Nov 2021 23:38:52
Ed, you and I (and others) will most definitely appear crazy to many simply because we are several layers deep whilst they remain surface dwellers :)
Religious teachings do mention that all that is and ever will be is already known so I would think that you are correct in your interpretation that all knowledge is already in existence and given to those who seek and more or equally important are ready for said knowledge. By the law of average two or more seekers will unlock the same knowledge at the very near same time.
Thinking is really just another way of describing seeking (and the truth shall be made known to you).
Little is understood about 'connections' across time and geography. I strongly suspect that a lot of this understanding has been lost along with other important knowledge. Many experiments have touched on the nature of the physical and its interaction with the non physical world including the double slit experiment that demonstrates the 'unexplainable' wave-particle duality, also unexplainable being
Schrodingers Cat and quantum superposition.
From these it is surely not a leap to imagine that it is possible to search for, locate and download knowledge from as you say the intelligent creator, all a planned part of life. Achieved by using our mind and consciousness to seek the truth.
I believe that this should be a common understanding but is is deliberately hidden from the majority, hence why they will run to the doctors to get the jab, they are simply not used to self awareness and critical thinking.
Read discussionEd, you and I (and others) will most definitely appear crazy to many simply because we are several layers deep whilst they remain surface dwellers :)
Religious teachings do mention that all that is and ever will be is already known so I would think that you are correct in your interpretation that all knowledge is already in existence and given to those who seek and more or equally important are ready for said knowledge. By the law of average two or more seekers will unlock the same knowledge at the very near same time.
Thinking is really just another way of describing seeking (and the truth shall be made known to you).
Little is understood about 'connections' across time and geography. I strongly suspect that a lot of this understanding has been lost along with other important knowledge. Many experiments have touched on the nature of the physical and its interaction with the non physical world including the double slit experiment that demonstrates the 'unexplainable' wave-particle duality, also unexplainable being
Schrodingers Cat and quantum superposition.
From these it is surely not a leap to imagine that it is possible to search for, locate and download knowledge from as you say the intelligent creator, all a planned part of life. Achieved by using our mind and consciousness to seek the truth.
I believe that this should be a common understanding but is is deliberately hidden from the majority, hence why they will run to the doctors to get the jab, they are simply not used to self awareness and critical thinking.
21 Nov 2021 20:40:14
Ed, I think you (or anyone) has a very difficult task of sifting through the seemingly endless pieces of the jigsaw to fit them together, throw into the mix that there are probably as many false pieces.
Having said that, I am familiar with all the areas you raise to some degree or other and pretty much have similar feelings (in general) as to what our past may look like.
It's very reasonable to assume that there were 'alien' species compared to what we know as humans in our past including Giants, Atlantans etc. It is quite believable that when you look at the flat earth that there are lands beyond the dome (hence all the no exploration enforcement).
There is every indication that silicon life forms held prominence at some point before carbon life forms took over and they will have appeared and lived very differently to how we do.
Add to this (and much more) is the question of how we change our reality and the picture becomes more confused. If thoughts become reality then imagining past possibilities could in itself generate evidence for such past realities.mind twisting I know!
How anyone can say they are bored in this life is strange to me, there are an infinite number of areas to explore, each one taking at least one full lifetime.
We will never (whilst in this reality anyway) understand the full picture so I content myself with enjoying uncovering new possibilities and linking them with existing knowledge. It's like building a 3d picture, endless bits of understanding to add, subtract and bring together.
Read discussionEd, I think you (or anyone) has a very difficult task of sifting through the seemingly endless pieces of the jigsaw to fit them together, throw into the mix that there are probably as many false pieces.
Having said that, I am familiar with all the areas you raise to some degree or other and pretty much have similar feelings (in general) as to what our past may look like.
It's very reasonable to assume that there were 'alien' species compared to what we know as humans in our past including Giants, Atlantans etc. It is quite believable that when you look at the flat earth that there are lands beyond the dome (hence all the no exploration enforcement).
There is every indication that silicon life forms held prominence at some point before carbon life forms took over and they will have appeared and lived very differently to how we do.
Add to this (and much more) is the question of how we change our reality and the picture becomes more confused. If thoughts become reality then imagining past possibilities could in itself generate evidence for such past realities.mind twisting I know!
How anyone can say they are bored in this life is strange to me, there are an infinite number of areas to explore, each one taking at least one full lifetime.
We will never (whilst in this reality anyway) understand the full picture so I content myself with enjoying uncovering new possibilities and linking them with existing knowledge. It's like building a 3d picture, endless bits of understanding to add, subtract and bring together.
20 Nov 2021 12:13:37
Bert, yeah I'm with you on the possibility of events unfolding as you say but that doesn't mean that we will comply.
100% I will resist by all means available, first legally (using their own maritime law and then common or natural law)followed if needed by physical resistence and I am quite prepared to die before giving in (not saying I want to of course!)
One thing, although I am aware of any and all possibilities I refuse to be in fear of them because that is what they want.
There is a much bigger picture than this transient life we enjoy and something as important as this battle has to be fought to the very end.
Read discussionBert, yeah I'm with you on the possibility of events unfolding as you say but that doesn't mean that we will comply.
100% I will resist by all means available, first legally (using their own maritime law and then common or natural law)followed if needed by physical resistence and I am quite prepared to die before giving in (not saying I want to of course!)
One thing, although I am aware of any and all possibilities I refuse to be in fear of them because that is what they want.
There is a much bigger picture than this transient life we enjoy and something as important as this battle has to be fought to the very end.
19 Nov 2021 23:17:42
Bert, they can try and make the decision for me, good luck with that :):)
Read discussionBert, they can try and make the decision for me, good luck with that :):)
19 Nov 2021 14:43:44
I've been using a distiller for nearly four years now and honestly it's the best investment I've ever made. When you first taste the water it can seem a little flat and tasteless but that just means the distillation has worked as it should.
We are so used to the taste of minerals in water that it can seem strange at first, however.you don't want these minerals in your water as they are inorganic and not able to be used by your body.
Before I switched to a distiller I was concerned by reports that that not only did the distilled water contain no minerals but it also leached minerals from your body, scare stories about mineral depletion etc.
Guess what. it does leach minerals from your body but just the inorganic ones that cause problems for you such as arthritis etc. Organic minerals in the body are untouched, amazing hey but that's the genius of the human body and the interaction of quality water that we are supposed to take in.
Adding minerals is personal choice but if you do then make sure they are organic sourced and not inorganic. I prefer to take natural supplements mainly in powder form such as organic green powders, Baobab, wheatgrass etc. These combined will give you all the minerals you need in synergistic combinations which increases the minerals bio availability over individual supplements.
And yes of course I mix them in distilled water :)
Read discussionI've been using a distiller for nearly four years now and honestly it's the best investment I've ever made. When you first taste the water it can seem a little flat and tasteless but that just means the distillation has worked as it should.
We are so used to the taste of minerals in water that it can seem strange at first, however.you don't want these minerals in your water as they are inorganic and not able to be used by your body.
Before I switched to a distiller I was concerned by reports that that not only did the distilled water contain no minerals but it also leached minerals from your body, scare stories about mineral depletion etc.
Guess what. it does leach minerals from your body but just the inorganic ones that cause problems for you such as arthritis etc. Organic minerals in the body are untouched, amazing hey but that's the genius of the human body and the interaction of quality water that we are supposed to take in.
Adding minerals is personal choice but if you do then make sure they are organic sourced and not inorganic. I prefer to take natural supplements mainly in powder form such as organic green powders, Baobab, wheatgrass etc. These combined will give you all the minerals you need in synergistic combinations which increases the minerals bio availability over individual supplements.
And yes of course I mix them in distilled water :)
18 Nov 2021 20:19:25
Welcome Bert, it's easier to stay strong with like minded people so my advice is even if there are times you don't feel like posting then keep visiting and reading the info shared because it will give you strength.
Read discussionWelcome Bert, it's easier to stay strong with like minded people so my advice is even if there are times you don't feel like posting then keep visiting and reading the info shared because it will give you strength.
18 Nov 2021 15:01:49
That would go someways to explaining why our 'knowing' (even with common sense legitimacy supporting it) is frustratingly taken as an 'opinion' at best and dismissed rather too easily.
My feeling all along is that intelligence is but a small part of understanding truth, the main component being what we term 'consciousness' or put another way a gift of understanding probably only given to those who demonstrate their focus on uncovering the true nature of reality and events within.
How many people actually seek the truth in the literal sense, not many I would suspect.
Read discussionThat would go someways to explaining why our 'knowing' (even with common sense legitimacy supporting it) is frustratingly taken as an 'opinion' at best and dismissed rather too easily.
My feeling all along is that intelligence is but a small part of understanding truth, the main component being what we term 'consciousness' or put another way a gift of understanding probably only given to those who demonstrate their focus on uncovering the true nature of reality and events within.
How many people actually seek the truth in the literal sense, not many I would suspect.
17 Nov 2021 01:38:13
Hi Ed,
Alan Watts does have lots of books and more vids on YouTube than is possible to watch!
He died years ago so I'm presuming someone controls his estate? He was a very deep thinker and was able to articulate in a way that is possible to follow.
I'm no expert in dreams or their analysis but have touched upon lucid dreaming and perhaps more pertinently the understanding that our brains can be seen as an antenna to the background consciousness. This gained knowledge can be expressed as inspiration or insight and has been credited with many a geniuses work. Dreams are a way of expressing this understanding.
It is equally possible that your dreams are the way of your consciousness absorbing, filtering and making sense of the current situation and your response to it. Dreams are patterns interpreted as we file this input and periods of intense dreaming are reflective of current experiences.
Knowledge has undoubtedly been hidden on a large scale (flat earth, technologies, timelines etc) but also think about the little stuff that gives us clues. What about Row Row Row your boat gently down the stream etc etc life is but a dream. Your boat is your life and experience and you steer it gently through lifes path (stream) and it is nothing but a dream!
Once we understand we are in a dream it takes the edge of slightly and we know that one way or another we will return to our spiritual self. I can picture myself when I die saying .WTF was that all about! :)
Read discussionHi Ed,
Alan Watts does have lots of books and more vids on YouTube than is possible to watch!
He died years ago so I'm presuming someone controls his estate? He was a very deep thinker and was able to articulate in a way that is possible to follow.
I'm no expert in dreams or their analysis but have touched upon lucid dreaming and perhaps more pertinently the understanding that our brains can be seen as an antenna to the background consciousness. This gained knowledge can be expressed as inspiration or insight and has been credited with many a geniuses work. Dreams are a way of expressing this understanding.
It is equally possible that your dreams are the way of your consciousness absorbing, filtering and making sense of the current situation and your response to it. Dreams are patterns interpreted as we file this input and periods of intense dreaming are reflective of current experiences.
Knowledge has undoubtedly been hidden on a large scale (flat earth, technologies, timelines etc) but also think about the little stuff that gives us clues. What about Row Row Row your boat gently down the stream etc etc life is but a dream. Your boat is your life and experience and you steer it gently through lifes path (stream) and it is nothing but a dream!
Once we understand we are in a dream it takes the edge of slightly and we know that one way or another we will return to our spiritual self. I can picture myself when I die saying .WTF was that all about! :)
16 Nov 2021 01:18:35
Ed032, Enjoy!
14 Nov 2021 16:27:34
Cheers Ed, yes, enjoy Alan. he's a bit old school in places but very clever and insightful.
His view on dreaming your life may give you another take on why we are experiencing the reality we are.
Read discussionCheers Ed, yes, enjoy Alan. he's a bit old school in places but very clever and insightful.
His view on dreaming your life may give you another take on why we are experiencing the reality we are.
14 Nov 2021 13:43:17
I think you've summarised it perfectly.
I know you're being a bit tongue in cheek about not thinking straight but honestly don't ever doubt your take on things. Like all of us we are open to changing our minds but there is little evidence (in fact zero) to suggest we are incorrect in our interpretation of current events.
Very difficult to stay strong when all around you have the opposite point of view (or even worse seem to have no point of view of their own) but like I've said before, even if I was the last person standing with this opinion I wouldn't change it.
The amazing thing for me in this whole event is not that its happening but that so many (90%+) are blind to it, it's almost incomprehensible to me. I think it clearly demonstrates that intelligence is not the defining factor in seeing the truth but rather a persons level of consciousness.
Either that or we are just playing a certain character/role in the game of life! Listen to Alan Watts talking about dreaming your life, quite thought provoking.
Read discussionI think you've summarised it perfectly.
I know you're being a bit tongue in cheek about not thinking straight but honestly don't ever doubt your take on things. Like all of us we are open to changing our minds but there is little evidence (in fact zero) to suggest we are incorrect in our interpretation of current events.
Very difficult to stay strong when all around you have the opposite point of view (or even worse seem to have no point of view of their own) but like I've said before, even if I was the last person standing with this opinion I wouldn't change it.
The amazing thing for me in this whole event is not that its happening but that so many (90%+) are blind to it, it's almost incomprehensible to me. I think it clearly demonstrates that intelligence is not the defining factor in seeing the truth but rather a persons level of consciousness.
Either that or we are just playing a certain character/role in the game of life! Listen to Alan Watts talking about dreaming your life, quite thought provoking.
09 Nov 2021 20:04:34
Cheers Ed :)
Read discussionCheers Ed :)
09 Nov 2021 11:49:33
Ed, it is an horrendous situation for all, jabbed or unjabbed.
I, like you and others, can't comprehend how so many seemingly intelligent people have fallen hook line and sinker for this obvious lie.
I do think that it's going to get worse before it gets better. You have to remember that it's okay to not have total control over your life and events surrounding it. You have done what you can for your father and this situation is beyond your control.
I'm glad in some ways that my father died last year because otherwise he would be going through what your father is now.
At all times remember that you are not alone and we are all fighting in our own way.
My daughter is 22 and has been ill since the jabs (which I pleaded with her to not get), she has been unable to work and things aren't great.
It breaks my heart but I refuse to give up and no matter what happens I will still smile and laugh every day and see the beauty around me because that for me is a victory and their actions will never define me as a person.
Stay strong.
Read discussionEd, it is an horrendous situation for all, jabbed or unjabbed.
I, like you and others, can't comprehend how so many seemingly intelligent people have fallen hook line and sinker for this obvious lie.
I do think that it's going to get worse before it gets better. You have to remember that it's okay to not have total control over your life and events surrounding it. You have done what you can for your father and this situation is beyond your control.
I'm glad in some ways that my father died last year because otherwise he would be going through what your father is now.
At all times remember that you are not alone and we are all fighting in our own way.
My daughter is 22 and has been ill since the jabs (which I pleaded with her to not get), she has been unable to work and things aren't great.
It breaks my heart but I refuse to give up and no matter what happens I will still smile and laugh every day and see the beauty around me because that for me is a victory and their actions will never define me as a person.
Stay strong.
06 Nov 2021 21:50:12
Southampton. numbers may be small and we may lose but there are more of us than you think.
Keep strong and good will prevail one way or another.
It seems that the satanic way doesn't allow for them to achieve their aims without our consent or at least benefit how they want to unless we consent.
Ideally I would have liked everyone to have seen from the start what nonsense this is but as we have seen it appears most are blinded/hypnotised, call it what you want. However even if you are the very last person fighting then never give in, don't give them the satisfaction.
100% I will die before submitting to these (insert term of choice here)
Read discussionSouthampton. numbers may be small and we may lose but there are more of us than you think.
Keep strong and good will prevail one way or another.
It seems that the satanic way doesn't allow for them to achieve their aims without our consent or at least benefit how they want to unless we consent.
Ideally I would have liked everyone to have seen from the start what nonsense this is but as we have seen it appears most are blinded/hypnotised, call it what you want. However even if you are the very last person fighting then never give in, don't give them the satisfaction.
100% I will die before submitting to these (insert term of choice here)
31 Oct 2021 22:40:34
Thanks Ed, makes sense, thanks for your reply, appreciated.
I pray that the majority have had something harmless or that I, along with others, are tending to look at worst case scenario.
Unfortunately examples of people affected horribly seem to be all too common.
I tried in vain to warn family and friends and was very sad to see my daughter get both. Here's hoping I'm wrong and they are right, somewhat doubt it though.
Read discussionThanks Ed, makes sense, thanks for your reply, appreciated.
I pray that the majority have had something harmless or that I, along with others, are tending to look at worst case scenario.
Unfortunately examples of people affected horribly seem to be all too common.
I tried in vain to warn family and friends and was very sad to see my daughter get both. Here's hoping I'm wrong and they are right, somewhat doubt it though.
31 Oct 2021 20:06:00
More of a question to see what you guys think. Thought hard before posting this as I like to support theories with proof but I'll be honest, this is just a feeling at this stage so please take that into account when reading.
I'm very much against the jabs due to the harm I believe has and will come from them.
As a football fan of many years and interested in the game in general, do we think that the forecasted sicknesses as a result of the jabs will start to show in footballers sooner than the rest of the population due to the intense physical nature of the game or will their fitness shield them at first?
Million dollar questions I know but have we started to see it already and dressed up as players having the C.V. or 'no reason' given such as Villa today?
This is definitely a case of me hoping that I'm seeing something that isn't there but little pointers are starting to make me think. Less running, less pressing, players looking off the pace. As a Leeds fan I notice this with Leeds in particular, is it just Leeds or teams in general?
30 Oct 2021 15:54:18
David, the moon is not a rock as you describe, even if we could reach it we couldn't land on it anyway. Its light is measurably colder than its surrounds as opposed to the suns light which is measurably warmer than the surrounding shade.
No one in the true flat earth community has ever said that the sun or moon is just 4 miles above us, you are picking a figure to suit your argument.
Standard, of course I used to believe the moon reflected the suns light just as I used to believe the other nonsense that you still cling to. The difference is that you and David are still in denial about the true nature of existence.
Read discussionDavid, the moon is not a rock as you describe, even if we could reach it we couldn't land on it anyway. Its light is measurably colder than its surrounds as opposed to the suns light which is measurably warmer than the surrounding shade.
No one in the true flat earth community has ever said that the sun or moon is just 4 miles above us, you are picking a figure to suit your argument.
Standard, of course I used to believe the moon reflected the suns light just as I used to believe the other nonsense that you still cling to. The difference is that you and David are still in denial about the true nature of existence.
29 Oct 2021 17:50:35
Standard, those with little understanding fall back on the line that they're being condescended to.
You talk about science, my career is based around it, I regularly undertake CET (continuous education training) in my Scientific area of training.
I debate with doctors, scientists, educators and have spoken at numerous scientific gatherings.
Quite frankly you sound like someone with a little knowledge who can't comprehend that others with a differing opinion may just be able to wipe the floor with you academically or scientifically.
Read discussionStandard, those with little understanding fall back on the line that they're being condescended to.
You talk about science, my career is based around it, I regularly undertake CET (continuous education training) in my Scientific area of training.
I debate with doctors, scientists, educators and have spoken at numerous scientific gatherings.
Quite frankly you sound like someone with a little knowledge who can't comprehend that others with a differing opinion may just be able to wipe the floor with you academically or scientifically.
29 Oct 2021 17:28:33
I could talk all day about light rays, the bending of, the reflection of, the refraction of etc (my degree and my career as an optician) but I'll just say one thing Standard. the irony is that the moon IS a light source.
Read discussionI could talk all day about light rays, the bending of, the reflection of, the refraction of etc (my degree and my career as an optician) but I'll just say one thing Standard. the irony is that the moon IS a light source.