14 Sep 2015 16:10:39 edd your jumping the gun ,when have I said it had to do with corbyn?
this for the 3rd or 4th time has never been about the man , its about policies that resonates with people.
david icke agrees with you in a way with corbyn is not the answer but its a start in the right direction.
this austerity squeeze is hitting everyone and it surprises you that people want a different voice? sanders/corbyn/podemos are popular because they go against the grain .
yep I take your point I could be biased but I live in a very biased society that treats people with money/power one way and the rest a other a way.
education and respect? fair enough i would not dare to guess why they do it , maybe some are brainwashed maybe some are just pure evil and maybe some have lost all of there familes in the the iraq war, who knows? maybe we should educate the uk public and say we are working with terrorist regimes all over the world now.
14 Sep 2015 13:05:32 correct edd its all about the people awareness not accepting austerity and finally standing as a movement behind those ideas being put forward.
this is rocking the uk like it never have has before and has people engaging more on issues that effect people like myself , and like it or not there is a change of let's think outside the box.
talking with isis? kim he has spoke to the elected hamas who's political aims were to have the palestein people to have human rights and I am pretty sure he has not said he wants talks with isis because it would be on msm 24/7 , I repeat he's aim is to stop our so called allies funding and giving them weapons and I am pretty sure bernie sanders is saying the same type of things in the usa .
you have never said you don't want peace , again I ask you what do we do?
kim you mention gay rights , the most prominent gay activist peter thatchil (who I detest btw) is firmly behind corbyn which might surprise you?
i want two fingers up to the establishment?ironic statement that when they have always looked after there own and stuck two fingers up to the people who have built this country .
14 Sep 2015 11:05:44 first of all edd I am very calm when I wrote that as I am calm now. I stand by claim that it is totally hypocrisy by kim to suggest by sharing a platform makes him a apologist , the saudi flag was raised at half mask at buckingham palace when there dictator died last year who was doing the exact same stuff to people as isis and let's be real about this ,they and turkey are funding and training these terrorist.
so like I have mentioned he was one of the first to open talks with sinn fein back in the day which brought peace when it was very raw and he copped flak then but he was never a leader so this has amplified .
btw can any of you guys give me a alternative to talking? because plan A ain't working.
time will tell if he's fraud but I will stand by my claim that this is not about corbyn it never has been, this is about a change to peoples awareness that enough is enough and instead of accepting what the talking heads are saying ,we as a group movement can make a change , hence the massive amount of numbers that have joined the lab party , nearly a million which has never happened before in british history .
lastly edd how is the podcast idea on this site going? I would like to maybe having a debate with kim or anyone else on this subject or any other believe it or not ufo stuff is my first love.
13 Sep 2015 23:07:51 firmly center don't make me laugh , your views are a mix of fox news/sky news rhetoric .
give me one just one example that corbyn admits to supporting homophobic and misogynist views.
i bet you all the rubles in russia you can't , but if you want to go there I could give you plenty of examples that our government past and present thinks its ok ,remind me again homophobic and misogynist views erm the saudi arabia dictatorship have those same views do they not? funny that you have never called the tories or new LAB out on this subject .
as for corbyn not making a election ,if it was a split or narrow win then there would be a good chance that could happen , but he annihilated the opposition and thankfully the people choose the leader not the PLP.
13 Sep 2015 18:06:13 dodged your points? you started with a right wing neo con statement about the west getting dragged into the middle east and my reply about funded dictators who fund these manics should have covered all of your points.
we agree about stopping these terrorists but my and your methods are miles away from each other .
correct NO ONE is saying usa uk and israel is perfect until now ,maybe that is why the right wing are getting rattled , your not ring wing by any chance are you kim?
haha trotskyist? you could not fill a school gym of labour trotskyist ,i can not speak for every lab voter but the vast amount I do speak to want the same thing as I do .
13 Sep 2015 16:08:47 the west got dragged in to the middle east? are you serious about that statement?
the west and the iron curtain have been putting there own dictators in power for over half a century and we all know the reasons why ,the same dictators they empowered are now funding terror cells , the world has gone mad if you think corbyn's stance on terror is worrying .
13 Sep 2015 13:54:16 shared platforms? the panorama edition about corbyn being in saudia Arabia was proved to be a LIE. his diary proved otherwise.
supporting psychopaths? two words mate SAUDI A
iran to my knowledge the only country the have attacked is another muslim country (iraq) in the last 50 years but israel feel threatened , got to be right eh?
finally he a shared platform with sinn fein in the a time when it was unthinkable. tell me what do you do kim? invade ireland until they give up the terror or do what he did and open dialogue?
13 Sep 2015 11:32:02 listen its about opinion this , if this was a tory group who were just attacking the poor I would agree with you that it would be very hard but middle class england is also getting squeezed for example people that work for themselves ,its exactly the same thing happening in the usa and I am pretty sure this is a global thing , the tactic of parties like the CON party has always blamed the poor/ low class for not paying there way , with this 40% cuts then that argument can not be used anymore and the so called middle class england will be asking themselves why am I still getting squezzed?
kim cosied up to terrorist groups?, your an intelligent woman and you must know how propaganda works so when corbyn meets hamas once for peace talks a few years ago he's cosying up but tony blair has meet the same group 3 times in the last year in his new laughable peace role and it's fine? I will spell it out again P R O P A G A N D A
12 Sep 2015 23:27:05 libs went tory? lib dems as a movement are dead because of they have never implemented their voters beliefs when they had the chance with the coalition. lib dems were the party of the youth vote 18 to 23. now with corbyn's vision on free education, he is already very popular with the younger vote. as for the tories rubbing their hands with glee, I will give you one example of the so called glee:
piri patel a tory mp who has a role with the dwp was asked today live on lbc radio about corbyn's massive win and she said it's a threat to national security. the interviewer said as a member of the opposite party it would be polite to congratulate your opposition would it not?
she still would not do it, but kept on going on about national security rubbish. now call me skeptical, but if I was happy that an opposition member was elected, I would be rolling the red carpet out for him. the fact is, he's getting attacked by the establishment and media who have right wing ideologies.
12 Sep 2015 23:37:28 kev, the rich own nearly all of our assets and they want the nhs next. we take back the transport from those people and we the people own it with our taxes thus securing our jobs as 1 example.
you called the russians and chinese volatile? mate for over 20 years we have been bombing the middle east, so not sure we can be casting stones at anyone.
not sure what you mean about opening coal mines, but if we do still import coal (not sure if we still do), it would make sense to use of our own would it not?
12 Sep 2015 15:47:03 kim he will take votes of ukip and lib dems add to the fact he will get people who have not voted in years 35 to 40% , why do you think they are so scared of him in the media?
12 Sep 2015 14:44:03 people are missing the big point , mps resigning means absolutly nothing when the people are firmly behind the leader , what happened 30 years ago has no effect on what's happening now , the world is a different place.
12 Sep 2015 01:05:10 it makes sense why the media are not touching this then. people are interested in this and we all need to get this out, will be sharing this info with anyone who wants to know, and if you get anymore updates zari, please share.
frankyscouser · 14 Sep 2015 16:38