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Reply · hsf · 21 Aug 2017 14:57
21 Aug 2017 15:42:15
The Moon is what is known as Tidal Locked, which means the same side of the Moon faces the Earth at all times. When the planet rotates and orbits the star, the "dark side" of the Moon will be lit up by the star at some point.

The picture was taken as the Moon's "dark side" started to face the star.

The picture wasn't taken from that far away, so the Earth would not be visible

As we all know, Space is not 2D - so we don't even know what angle this picture was taken at. But I'd imagine the Earth is behind the Moon, and given how close the picture looks to be, the Moon, the Earth is hidden.

I'm actually surprised you didn't mention the lack of stars in the picture, which is easily explained by the way. If you go out at night into a forest or somewhere with low levels of light pollution, take a picture of the sky with your flash on. No stars will appear in the photo. This is because the flash from the camera is more intense than the points of light in the sky and drowns them out.
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Reply · hsf · 21 Aug 2017 14:57
21 Aug 2017 15:17:05
Ed, I'd love it to be ET's I really would. I'm open to the idea, I just don't think it's likely is all.
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Reply · hsf · 21 Aug 2017 13:38
21 Aug 2017 13:04:21
Well, one thing is for sure, it's definitely not the side facing Earth.
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Reply · hsf · 21 Aug 2017 13:38
21 Aug 2017 13:01:03
I see what you're saying with that, it makes sense about the advanced humans.

I genuinely don't think it's about ET's or anything like that. I'm with Randall Carlson that a comet hit the earth during the Younger Dryas period and wiped out a huge amount of life. Possibly leading to lost knowledge and lost civilisations. There is an insane amount of evidence to suggest this happened, with the extinction of 80% of the mega mammals in North America, plus the Black Matt layer, the nano-diamonds and the lack of mega mammal skeletons above the black mat layer.

It's all very convincing stuff and I look forward to hearing more, especially as now mainstream archaeology is getting behind this theory and pumping money into it!

When you consider the Human race has been around in it's modern form for around 200,000 years, it seems very naive to assume that it took us 199,000 years to become technologically advanced, especially when you have megalithic structures like Gobekli Tepe the one under the sea near Italy that date back over 10,000 years.
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Post · hsf · 21 Aug 2017 11:26

21 Aug 2017 11:49:05
Probably a little much at once, but I sat and watched these 3 videos in 2 days, all 9 hours.

Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson on the Joe Rogan Experience
In these videos, they discuss Egypt, Gobekli Tepe, The Younger Dryas and a global flood 12,800 years ago.



youtube.com/watch?v=0H5LCLljJho

This one also includes a 3rd guest - Michael Shermer
youtube.com/watch?v=tFlAFo78xoQ

Fascinating stuff to listen too, especially the stuff on Gobekli Tepe and the Sphinx.
Is there a piece of human history that is genuinely missing?

 

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Reply · hsf · 21 Aug 2017 11:01
21 Aug 2017 10:57:34
The lunar wave you are seeing is the Earth's atmosphere. It's turbulent air in the atmosphere caused by differences in temperature.

That's the official explanation, but who knows?
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Reply · hsf · 21 Aug 2017 11:01
21 Aug 2017 10:58:45
This is not the far side, no?

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Reply · hsf · 21 Aug 2017 11:01
21 Aug 2017 10:32:33
Ok no worries Ed, maybe I was too high after all! lol.
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Reply · hsf · 21 Aug 2017 11:01
21 Aug 2017 10:31:01
Congrats on your new arrival bud!
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Reply · hsf · 19 Aug 2017 23:53
20 Aug 2017 00:43:42
Ed033, my post seems to have come out in a completely random order, I know I was really high when typing that but I'm pretty sure I didn't type it out like that, as sort of proof read after typing it all.

I'm just wondering if maybe when you hyperlinked "Himawari 8" it may have misplaced something? Or maybe I was just really high, i don't know D: lol.
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Reply · hsf · 19 Aug 2017 20:06
19 Aug 2017 18:33:30
Honestly guys, you're looking at a lot of this with complete simplicity and something as complex as geometry, astronomy and physics can not be looked at in a simple manner. As an example, Football isn't just 22 men kicking a ball around, there are set patterns in the play, tactics and consistent readjustments made.

The Moon may well be a massive celestial body, too massive to be a real moon, but that's only because we've seen no evidence yet of other planets our size, with moons like ours. As technology progresses, telescopes get better and we can see further and in more detail. The observably universe is 90 billion light years each way I think - I don't even know what that is in miles, it probably can't even be calculated.

The planet being spherical isn't a new ideology either. Graham Hancock explained that if you take the measurements of the Great Pyramid of Giza, multiply it by 43,000 (a multiple of 72) you get the EXACT dimensions of the planet we're on, plus the exact alignment with the constellation of Orion. How old are the Pyramids? And we credit Columbus for saying the Earth was round.
My point being that somewhere in all of that, there may well be a planet our size with a moon bigger than ours. In fact, I will be willing to put my house up for a bet I'm that confident about it.

Additionally, there is a Japanese weather satellite that takes a photo of Earth every 10 minutes. It's called Himawari 8

Now with all due respect, let's see someone make a photoshop picture of Earth every 10 minutes - not possible. I know a guy who's a graphics designer (very successful one) and even he couldn't do this in an hour, let a lone 10 minutes.
So to say there are no images of Earth have been taken from space, is 100% wrong (I may have misinterpreted what you said, I'm really, really high! :D)

Southampton87, Of course the majority of my information came from reading websites, scientific papers and watching videos on said topics. I'm not even remotely smart enough to work it all out myself, some of it I can - a very small amount.
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Reply · hsf · 19 Aug 2017 20:06
19 Aug 2017 18:35:49
The Coriolanus Effect is a hypothetical force, it's not been proven yet, but the reason it wouldn't work on a plane, is because a plane is consistently pushing its self a long. A bullet has an initial burst and then no propulsion after that.
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Reply · hsf · 19 Aug 2017 10:26
19 Aug 2017 03:27:00
The "artists" you speak of are just computer nerds that put groups of images together and then renders them. It just so happens that they use software called "Photoshop" which is 10/10 in terms of performance for this kind of thing. People see the word Photoshop and assume it's fake.
Yes you can add things and change things with Photoshop, but all they are doing is stitching images together to create the full photo.

Some photo's will have anomalies on them, such as black squares or smudges or even massive lines across them. This is called an "artifact" and they happen in video games all the time (video games are just high fps slide shows with each frame being rendered individually) and other graphic rendering situations.

goo.gl/iABUi

This link will explain the quotes taken from Van Allen himself, plus I'm fairly sure this covers everything about the Van Allen Belts theory. It goes into very very high detail surrounding the radiation, including breaking down all the equations.

Space debris and Orbits
goo.gl/amhE6


I remember reading somewhere (maybe wikipedia I'm not sure) that the ISS can withstand impacts from debris of up to 3cm in diameter, so they track the stuff over that size and if they can track and predict the orbits of stars and planets, I'm fairly sure they can predicts space debris orbits and satellite orbits - then adjust the position of the space station accordingly to avoid said collisions, right?

And you say it's harder for NASA to fool us, but it works the other way around too.
There are so many different ways to communicate media or data that almost anyone can start a movement. People like Alex Jones for example, he's lying through his teeth, spouting useless information that is never backed up

"I spoke to a guy high up on the commission of NASA and he was telling me about inter-dimensional beings waging war on the dark side of the moon"

All he's doing, is preying on the people who are curious to know what's going on. These people like myself and yourself are vulnerable to this kind of thing because we want it to be like that. I'm sure he's saying some stuff that is correct, but he goes so overboard that it's almost theatrical, like one of those doomsday messages you see on news clips in movies.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean when you're talking about Vacuum but I'll give it a go.
I think the best way to explain it would be bubbles in water. They don't pop in water, they absorb the impacts of the water around it, if something penetrates the bubble, it doesn't pop it, a little bit breaks off and the hole is closed. A bottle is a bad example as it has a solid shape and a physical barrier. The bubbles do not, they just have the force of the air inside the water, much like the Earth in the vacuum of space.

In the Theia theory, a Mars sized rogue planet hit the earth twice, smashing debris into orbit around what was left of the Earth and formed rings (which we still have a very, very thin ring around us) gravity then played a part and clumped the mass of the debris together and allegedly formed the moon. It's just a theory, but it's similar to the bubble situation. Another thing is that Astronauts train in swimming pools with full space gear on to help simulate the feeling of being weightless.

An enjoyable discussion indeed! :)
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Reply · hsf · 18 Aug 2017 21:48
18 Aug 2017 18:27:19
People get this misconception on what CGI means when NASA are referring to it. The abbreviation is "Computer Generated Image" and given that most telescopes these days are "digital" telescopes, all images will be computer generated.
I think that should also cover the Galileo satellite too.

The telescope will take around 20,000 images of a single piece of sky, the data is sent to the computer and the computer reconstructs the image from the coding used by the telescope.

As for saying that Hubble or any other satellite telescope has never broken is just an outright lie who ever told you that. There have been several "repair missions" since it's launch in 1991. One thing to mention about space, is you don't need any tools to put two bits of metal together. Because space is a vacuum, there is no air buffer between two said bits of metal. Therefore you get a cold fusion reaction which makes the metal stick.

There is a website which tracks all of the space debris and has an almost real time update sequence.

Here is an image:


Yes, it's bloody disgusting to see all that waste out in space!
But this is why you have "launch windows" for space flights, it's not only about the optimal conditions, but it's about where the space debris is also.

The Van Allen belt is a tough thing to get through without issues. But it's not about the amount of radiation, it's about the length of time you spend in said radiation.
Take Chernobyl for example, you can go right up to power station itself in a hazmat suit for around 15 minutes before you start to get sick, or suffer any long term issue's. After that, you'll probably have to spend a lot of time in recovery, as the radiation levels are comparable to an extinction event.

I'm not an astrophysicist either, I just have a very keen curiosity for all things space. I've read multiple theories and multiple scientific journals on lots of different subjects, through this I come to my own conclusion using my own logic and reason.

And by the way, the reason people get mad at the Flat Earth theory is because in their eyes (and mine too) when confronted with evidence such as constellations and time zones (which would be VERY different if the Earth was flat) the theory becomes preposterous.

For example:
Get a flat surface that you can lift up and rotate a torch around it, you'll see that the face of the paper lights up all at once. If the Earth was flat and it takes 7 minutes (approx) for the light to travel 93 million miles to Earth, then why does it take 8 hours for light from the sun to get from the UK to California?

And why do we see different constellations in the Southern Hemisphere to the Northern? This 100% could not happen if the Earth was flat. Those are the two biggest holes in the Flat Earth theory in my opinion.

I would like to say that I don't mean to come across as rude, arrogant or up myself with these statements. I am of the opinion that you are more than entitled to believe what you feel is right, that's total cool. It's just nice to have a counter argument, just in case. As many smart men have said, curiosity is a sign of intelligence.
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Reply · hsf · 18 Aug 2017 10:30
18 Aug 2017 02:40:11
My opinion of flat Earth is easy to find on the forums, but to cut it short I don't believe in it at all, if you'd like to see why, you can see it in the search function, it should be pretty easy to find. ^_^

On NASA and all things space, I think we went to the moon, I think a lot of the evidence to suggest we haven't is easily explained, however there are definitely some anomalies and questions that do need answering.

Can I ask, CTR why you think the stuff from Hubble etc is all lies?
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Reply · hsf · 17 Aug 2017 10:04
17 Aug 2017 10:58:34
Best of two evils.

I won't lie, I actually thought Trump was just banging the drum and pandering to the people to win votes. I thought once in office, he'll be the same as they all have been. Nope, he's still an enormous bellend.

As for Hillary, I'm going to apologise for this in advance Ed, but she's a malignant See You Next Tuesday. That's the least offensive way I can put it.
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Reply · hsf · 16 Aug 2017 14:29
16 Aug 2017 15:15:30
This is the thing though, people automatically assume a UFO is aliens, when the reality is, it's just unidentified.

I live near Amesbury and they have an RAF base (Boscombe). When I was working a few years ago in the summer, we saw multiple strange aircraft taking off and landing. All different shapes it was kind of crazy. I actually thought Aliens had landed at first! But it was fairly obvious that it was just testing after a closer look.

I've also heard a few "booms" at night which could be sonic booms from an aircraft such as the Aurora. But, I live near Salisbury plains and they have regular tank/ artillery drills there. Oh and a pro-tip for you guys. Don't EVER go onto Salisbury plains at night.

1). You don't know what you're stepping on such as unexploded shells.

2). Tanks do not stop easily (don't ask! )

3). The ammunition they use is LIVE.

4). When being escorted off, they're not very polite about it ¬_¬ Especially to 14 year old kids who are just exploring 8-) lol.
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Reply · hsf · 14 Aug 2017 16:57
14 Aug 2017 16:33:37
I will be honest Ed, I find the geometry stuff really difficult to believe. I'd imagine we'd see similar patterns with satellite views of arid deserts on Earth or on the Moon.

There has also been evidence of straight lines used in nature (although it is exceptionally rare).



Sunrise, Tessellated Pavement, Eaglehawk Neck, Tasman Peninsula, Tasmania, Australia

"According to Dr. Chloe Bulinski, a Professor of Biology at Columbia University, straight lines are all around us, from the compound eyes of insects to the collagen fibers in connective tissue. Dr. Bulinski cites Tasmania’s Tessellated Pavement, an inter-tidal rock platform that looks like the floor tiles in your kitchen, as a particularly fine example of naturally occurring straight lines. "




Pyrite Cubes are a natural formation.



Basalt Columns
"It is the nature of basaltic lava cooling that allows this to happen: this lava is hotter and moves faster than other kinds. As it cools from the bottom up and from the center outward, long fractures form columns that at times take on astoundingly clear-cut hexagons. The whole process is called columnar jointing"
-google answers

There are a few good examples of angles in those pictures too.
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Reply · hsf · 14 Aug 2017 16:57
14 Aug 2017 16:44:36
I would also like to go on and state that I really want there to be proof of ET life, either present or historically. It's something I've looked at for years and the reason I bought a telescope to be honest with you, I just wanted to see a UFO! Lol.

As I've said before on here, there are astronomical numbers that more or less prove we are not alone. As our galaxy alone has an estimated 100 billion stars, a large percentage have planets around them. So if you apply that theory to the rest of the galaxies in the universe and we're talking about the possibility of trillions of planets. There is no way that the the Earth is a 1 in a trillion.

That being said, I've seen no evidence that 100% proves it. There are circumstantial bits of evidence, a few anomalies here and there and a few questionable testimonies / confessions but nothing definitive. Yet.
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Post · hsf · 14 Aug 2017 11:54

14 Aug 2017 12:51:36
Ok so I looked at the pictures of the Pyramids on Mars and there was only one that stood out, but it's (in my opinion) clutching at straws.



In this image for example.
"the face" is just an example of shadows making something look different and it was a lower resolution photo.



The Pyramid looks like it's just a sand dune, probably formed over a large rock.



And "the city" looks to be a similar situation as the Pyramid, except smaller rocks for foundation.

I saw a few other images that were either very low resolution or just clearly faked/ enhanced to suit the purpose. But there are so many fake photo's out there that it's difficult to find the originals.

I'm not saying I'm right, just offering a possible explanation. Do you have any other images I should look at?

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