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Post · hsf · 12 Aug 2017 21:28

12 Aug 2017 20:14:49
I read a theory that said Apollo 11 went to the moon, but the astronauts and footage we saw was filmed in a studio, as they didn't want the public to see a tragedy if it happened. But then I remember watching a live video of several astronauts being blown up when a rocket failed not long after launch. So who knows?

 

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Reply · hsf · 12 Aug 2017 16:55
12 Aug 2017 17:45:52
What makes you say that Ed? I'm just asking as I'm a firm believer that we did go to the Moon.
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Reply · hsf · 12 Aug 2017 08:55
12 Aug 2017 06:55:48
I think if they can control a drone on the other side of the world, then they can control a drone on Mars. Technology is also concealed from the public, this should be fairly well documented now.

I don't know anything of this "black technology" that Ed033 has mentioned before, but I know they hide certain things and then a few years down the line, release it to the public in some form (in most cases) .
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Reply · hsf · 12 Aug 2017 00:16
12 Aug 2017 01:05:25
It's very possible. And Japan is a very, very rare case, as there are two dominant religions there and they actively praise each other. If you look at Europe, with Catholicism and Judaism, they've pretty much always been at conflict.
Same with Protestants and Catholics, the different branches of Islam are at war with each other, just look at the middle-east.

But to continue with what you're saying, it's almost certain that things get covered up and hidden from public knowledge, especially in the US and Britain.

Two major cover ups that have been exposed are the Hillsborough disaster in the UK and MK Ultra in the US. So from this alone, we can say with certainty that they are covering something up somewhere along the lines. But so many people make so many accusations about cover ups, it's difficult to assess which ones are real and which ones are just in the way of us finding the real ones.
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Reply · hsf · 11 Aug 2017 23:55
11 Aug 2017 23:54:47
I will take a look at that Ed.

Mars was allegedly like Earth once, I remember reading once that there was a slight possibility that Earth collided with Mars and formed the moon, but I think that was debunked and now they believe it was a rogue planet that they've named as Theia that smashed into the Earth twice. (sorry went off topic slightly lol, I love space! ) So perhaps there was life on there too, we've not openly found any yet though. They've found evidence of flowing water and even found water-ice at the poles. I think Mars is a strong candidate to formly hosted life for sure.

I have however seen a few videos on youtube, some more psychadelic than others about Humans originally being from Mars and migrating to Earth when they learned of an impending impact (the theory cites the enormous gauge on Mars as the extinction event in most cases) .

Honestly, I've never done any non-prescription drugs other than Cannabis, Alcohol and Nicotine, but I wish I watched this one video while taking acid, would have been one hell of a trip!

youtube.com/watch?v=X248XcWnwWo

Seems like complete rubbish, but it was very entertaining to watch! The stuff like the higher conciousness ascension thing, I'd love for them to find evidence that you can "ascend". I'd 100% rename myself Goku. xD.
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Reply · hsf · 11 Aug 2017 23:55
12 Aug 2017 00:10:27
That makes me very glad Ed!

Southampton87, are you deliberately trying to trigger me? :D lol flat earth, makes me so mad that intelligent people, with logic and reason being the backbone of their well being, believe in the horse rubbish that is Flat Earth.

On a sidenote - these guys are 100% not human.
https://youtu.be/J91Lo1wTR1A
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Reply · hsf · 11 Aug 2017 22:52
11 Aug 2017 23:36:18
Southampton87, Proxima Centauri is a red dwarf star and that's visable with a high end commerical telescope. By the way, it has a couple of Earth sized planets around it too! So we should shift our attention away from some frozen rock in deep space, and put it there as that's the best chance of Alien life.

Proxima Centauri is 4 light years away, so it's pretty far away but it's also our closest neighbour. Sirius is some 8.6 light years away, which would take 296,000 years to get to.
Proxima Centauri would take 81,000 years to get to. All using modern technology that is. So if we can see a dwarf star that's 81,000 years away, I'm pretty sure we could see a dwarf star that is between 10,000 and 20,000 years away (less than 1 light year) .

I've been stargazing for about 10 years now and I have a very good telescope, capable of seeing Jupiter in great detail, including a lot of it's moons, but I am yet to see anything that isn't explainable.

One candidate for life within our solarsystem is Europa, even those it is frozen, they have seen geological activity through thermal vents with in it's 100km deep ocean. We may see some complex life or just find microbial life or maybe even nothing, who knows? That's the beauty of it all.
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Reply · hsf · 11 Aug 2017 22:16
11 Aug 2017 23:01:42
I think Hancock refused to give a date on how old it really is, but both he and Carlson came to the conclusion that it's at least 12,000 years old because of the water erosion evidence.

450,000 years old? I'll watch the video but humans have only been sophisticated enough to do this for about 10,000 years until recent evidence suggested it could be a little earlier.

Göbekli Tepe is estimated to be around 11,500 years old and until its discovery, it was thought that only Hunter-Gatherers were about during this time. Evidently, we were very wrong about this! As Gobekli Tepe is an architectural masterpeice.
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Reply · hsf · 11 Aug 2017 22:16
11 Aug 2017 23:04:47
He is a massive bellend Ed, everything he does is dishonest, that's why he's always being hunted by the Police. But I'm sure someone will tell me that it's because he speaks the truth and they're trying to shut him up.
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Reply · hsf · 11 Aug 2017 21:33
11 Aug 2017 22:21:16
Sirius B orbits Sirius (the Dog star), Sirus is the brightest star in the night sky with a luminosity magnitutde of -1.46 (I had to look the number up), followed by Alpha Carinae and later in the year, Polaris. Don't forget Betelgeuse, Eta Carinae and Alderbaran.

I am completely open to being wrong on the Binary star system, as it would answer a lot of questions, but raise even more. But this theory is supported by Santos Bonacci and he's a psuedo-science muppet, who supports Flat Earth theories.
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Reply · hsf · 11 Aug 2017 21:16
11 Aug 2017 21:20:01
Regarding the age of the Sphinx. He strongly goes against the mainstream view and has some pretty compelling evidence. Both he and Randall Carlson had a discussion on a Joe Rogan podcast about Egypt and certain climate issues surrounding it.

Hancock was talking about about some water erosion that in the current climate, would be impossible.



The deep lines in the wall indicate heavy rain or water flow. Randall Carlson came forward with evidence, suggesting that the Nile flooded around 12,800 years ago and the region was affected heavily by this. Any civilisations would have to abandon and move and then come back later, Which could be why there are so many discrepancies in the dating of the Pyramids and the Sphinx.

There is strong evidence to suggest a great project was being worked on 2500 years ago, but Hancock believes that was probably a restoration. He cites the quality of the Great pyramid to the lack of quality in the smaller ones.
Additionally, a University student broke into the Pyramids a few years ago and found evidence of a 2000 year old restoration.
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Reply · hsf · 11 Aug 2017 20:49
11 Aug 2017 21:05:42
Come on Southampton87, you're just speculating. If you put some evidence forward of what you're saying then it becomes credible.

There is no evidence as of yet to suggest we're in a binary star system. There are many theories, but very little evidence to suggest it. If I'm wrong, then I'm happy to admit it, but we would have found the Suns "evil twin" as it was coined back in the day, it would actually be one of the brightest stars in the sky, irrespective of it's luminosty and size. The only time it would be exceptionally hard to find with modern telescopes, is if it's a Brown Dwarf or a Black Dwarf (it takes about a billion or more years to happen after a supernova/ hypernova, so the theory suggests) . And we don't believe we've found any of those yet.
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Post · hsf · 11 Aug 2017 19:50

11 Aug 2017 19:09:36
Do you read or follow anything by Graham Hancock? He seems to be on point regarding the Egyptians.

 

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Reply · hsf · 11 Aug 2017 19:45
11 Aug 2017 19:38:25
OIrish Kev 1, a lot of that can be explained through evolution and climate change.

Neanderthals were in Europe I believe and they were wiped out by what's known as anatomically modern Humans moving into Europe from Africa.
Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson have some very interesting theories on the Homogenus, I would recommend reading or watching their stuff.
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Reply · hsf · 11 Aug 2017 19:45
11 Aug 2017 19:44:46
Rian, would you not say that Religion has past its sell by date? It's not dead in the water just yet, but there are very few cultures that take religion seriously these days. Isn't it also funny, that the ones that do, are usually countries that are torn apart by famine, war or a dictatorship?
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Reply · hsf · 11 Aug 2017 19:45
11 Aug 2017 19:06:06
Sorry but a 50,000 megaton asteroid hitting a planet of any size, is not going to be survivable in any circumstance. Even if Nibiru was just an outpost, it would not be able to sustain anything on it, from buildings to life, nothing would be able to withstand the impacts.

All you have to do is look at the Proto-Earth simulation to get an idea of what would happen.

You also have to consider with any article or paper detailing intelligent life - the Fermi Paradox.

In my personal opinion, I believe we are not alone, but I don't think there are many if any at all that have reached our level of sophistication and intelligence. If they have reached our level or surpassed it, then the likelihood is they blew themselves up, assuming we as a species are anything to go by.

I can get on board some of Sitchins stuff, but this is just too flawed for me to consider.
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Post · hsf · 11 Aug 2017 16:12

11 Aug 2017 16:34:47
Just to continue our discussion on Sitchin and the 9th/10th planet.

The very idea that a species could survive in an orbit around the sun of 3600 years is almost impossible. For a start, life would only have a very, very short period to evolve, probably 500 years at a time, if not less. Plus this planet goes through the kuiper belt. Which is an enormous asteroid belt at the edge of our solar system.

Now to put it into context, there is a thing called the "Taurid meteor stream" which the Earth passes through twice a year (12 days each time) . Each time we pass through it, we have "meteor showers" which are fun to watch, but every now and then, something bigger comes into our atmosphere.

in 1908 a 100 meter wide Taurid asteroid exploded 3 miles above the surface of the Earth and flattened 80 million tree's in Siberia.

Imagine going through a 2 billion mile wide belt, which would take 100 years to pass through, it's going to get smashed to bits and life would never be able to grab a foothold, let alone defend its self from asteroid strikes.

Additionally, the planet will be frozen solid for the large majority of its orbit, as it allegedly stretches as far as 50 Astronomical Units away, which is 93,000,000*50 in miles. That's 4.6 billion miles away. To put it into context, Pluto is 3 billion miles away and frozen solid.

 

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Reply · hsf · 11 Aug 2017 15:01
11 Aug 2017 15:38:45
Rian, I don't see why they'd hide the human history from us personally. There are things being discovered out there, that are far more brutal on our understanding of things. For example, the laws of physics dictate that a planet should follow it's host stars rotation, but they recently discovered one which orbits the "wrong way" and goes against it's host star rotation.

The same applies for "Hot Jupiter" type planets. Gas giants that were formed way too close to the star - this shouldn't happen, but they've found many examples of it.

I don't see why an earlier advanced civilisation would cause issue's apart from in a religious aspect. If anything, it could help us understand our own path.
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Reply · hsf · 11 Aug 2017 00:22
10 Aug 2017 23:19:39
sitchiniswrong.com/index.html.
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