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Discussion #628Talk Sense

15 Dec 2011 17:42:34
I wondered myself as to why the Flag in the moon video was waving, But according to mainstream science. Due to their being no oxygen and very little gravity the movement lasts for literally hundreds of years compared to here where if we knocked something it may last 15 seconds.

When the flag was placed it was obviously knocked about a little, so without anything to resist against and cause friction due to their being no atmosphere the flag simply won't stop moving for a very long time.

The Moon.

{Ed033's Note - The flag waving is most likely irrelevant as the video was shot on Earth anyway. What people may not have recognised is that with less gravity, the astronauts should have been moving about at a faster pace than on Earth not at 1/2 speed as on Earth. This alone should be enough to see the video was shot on Earth and slowed to 1/2 speed.

 

It is a weird one Ed, but I can't see a 100% answer being found until we end up on the moon for a day out.

The Moon.
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How come when they use and show the vomit comet everything is slowed down then ? been there done it seen it. movement is slower.

{Ed033's Note - I'm not saying I'm correct, all I'm saying is if you think about it, if there is less force pulling you down on the Moon because of less gravity, this should actually allow you to move faster than on Earth. Less force pulling you down really should not make you move about at 1/2 speed. In addition we are told there would be less air resistance on the moon so in theory anyone should run faster on the moon than on Earth over a similar terrain.}
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Discussion #627Talk Sense

15 Dec 2011 17:15:09

Watched john harris on youtube today he is a normal working class feller like us,and he breaks it down about what they ie goverment/bankers are doing to take our liberty away and squeeze every last penny out of us,he shows a feller in hes own front yard filmng two police officers who catch him filming (soz crap at spelling) them.wont tell you the rest. john harris the illusion part 1/5 presentation below.

frankyscouse

 

Seen some of his stuff before he's a real working class hero

Big D {Ed033's Note - John harris has a number of videos on youtube to watch, his web site is www.tpuc.org
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Discussion #626Talk Sense

15 Dec 2011 12:15:32
anyone else seen the advert for chanel 4s documentary the syrian torture machine ?? an attack must be imminment as the brittish propaganda machines wheels have started turning, ridiculous wen u know 4 months this is going 2 happen bt still absolutel disbelief tht its already startin and we can do nothing, ww3 now seems inevetible it seems

{Ed033's Note - Webster Tarpley (tarpley.net) went to Syria to see what was going on for himself and came to the conclusion that someone was paying mercenaries to go into Syria to shoot people. Also there were a few people demonstrating but not about the Syrian President but because of the NATO sanctions on the heating oil as the Syrian people would be cold because Winter was coming.

 

ED what you said in the earlier post is completely true. I live in Lebanon and have relatives in Syria who at the moment are freezing because "gangs" + "militia" are trafficking all oil coming to Syria and dumping and disposing them . Honestly if these gangs were truly the so called rebellions then why aren't they taking the oil and throwing it instead of they use them for their own benefits, and the justification given that they're dumping them just for the sake of harming the government is totally Bogus. All missions done and being done in Syria are illogical, the only possible logic to conclude is that they are attempts to get all citizens start a war against each other (Same triggering methods used to erupt the Lebanese Civil War in 1975). The sad thing is that all media even here in Lebanon aren't reporting on the huge number of deaths of old-age senior citizens who simply can't handle the cold.

Daily buses and taxi's are going from Lebanon to Syria and vice versa so the roads are open and evrth is accessible, the only fear is getting in direct contact with these "gangs".
Now about the people demonstrating; yes there are people protesting against the President, and they are either Kurdish or gypsies and a very small group of people who used to support the President but now are against coz of conflicts in interests. So, the majority in Syria (Sunnis, Christians, Armenian Christians and of other ethnicity) are behind the President and support his ideologies (which i don't since its a bit primitive).

I totally agree that the people who are shooting are employees of the west trying to complete tasks assigned to them and these tasks have been put long long ago. My conclusion is because of the true gruesome photos and videos i have seen of the killings and slaughter going on since the manner and professionalism used by the mercenaries just show that there is noway that they're regular citizens. And if some are then they must have been trained by other military forces since Syrians military are the same of Hezbollah which i know of really well.

In Lebanon we have a feeling that the pot is full and everything is in place so it can blow. I just hope 2012 isn't heading towards the obvious.


Eds this is my first post here, I've been following the site since it opened ;) just wanna say Amazing job my friends thx for all ur links and knowledge, very helpful and enlightening.

Cheers... John

{Ed033's Note - Ok great, thanks for the post John.}
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Just looks like another libya tbh
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Discussion #625Talk Sense

15 Dec 2011 03:17:11
To ed033, I was the guy with the 3 questions and illuminati comment lol. Thanks for the reply and i'll watch the videos just now. Its just so hard finding out true information out there with all the disinformation :/. {Ed033's Note - Two important web pages to visit and listen to the info are: www.richplanet.net/starship.php and www.tnsradio.com/podcasts.html

 

{Ed033's note - it's also important to know the information Brian Gerrish talks about - Brian Gerrish at the British Constitution Group Conference October 22 2011 video

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Discussion #624Talk Sense

14 Dec 2011 19:46:24
Check this site out got this little weird creature that got beaten to death by some teenagers who feared for their lives

www.strangeworldofmystery.blogspot.com/2009_09_01_archive.html

MJ

 

Saw a few programs on this, it was proven to be a sloth that had died and fallen into the water. the kids admitted they didn't kill it, it's hair fell off after time spent in the water. I was gutted, I was loving it!

Anything cryptozoological, I'm your man, I love all that.

RED_SKY

{Ed033's Note - I find it extremely hard to believe that all of the hair fell out just because of being in water.
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Check up on it Ed, its been proven - its absolutely blatant as well, looking at it, that its a sloth without hair. The hands/claws are the most blatant thing about it - plus, Sloths are abundant in central American countries.

I might be off about the fact that all it's hair came off due to it being in the water, but its 100%, undeniably a sloth.

THough I wish it was a weird gollum thing.

RED_SKY
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{Ed033's Note - I didn't deny it was a sloth. I disbelieved all its hair fell out because of being in water.}
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I can't see anyone shaving it. But weirder things have happened I suppose, like making an alien out of bread and chicken skin (which by the way, was a fantastic effort)!

RED_SKY
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Poor sloth. pisses me rite off. people are so cruel to animals.

matty b
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Discussion #623Talk Sense

14 Dec 2011 18:58:36
{Ed033's Note - There maybe micro evolution of a species altering slightly but where is the evidence of the macro evolution ie big changes from one species to another because of micro evolution. big changes do take place and appear to take place in one go and not because of micro evolution ie small changes that become big changes over millions of years time. Just no evidence for me. There is another mechanism at work. How we came about doesn't fit into the evolution model but if we were genetically tweaked would make sense. }
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I do agree with you about the "another mechanism at work" , the evolution theory is incomplete.
But few months ago while rummaging through the kitchen cupboards , I found an old jar (year old maybe) where my wife had kidney beans stored, amongst the beans there were worms that evolved out of these beans and air .. would you call that macro evolution ? now if you take that change and multiply by billion years , that bean may .. just may produce a human.
Roy

 

I've seen this myself with mung beans. "Eggs" are laid/injected into the food stuff then if you keep the food stuff for long enough the "eggs", "hatch" and bugs of some kind appear. There is no mystery there.

I don't agree with a lot of what David wilcock says but if you have lots of time you can watch 2012 event horizon to see some evolution mysteries - divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/831-2012eventhorizon
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I did not say there was any mystery there mate, the worms in my beans came about from the bacteria enclosed within the jar reacting with the bean to produce an organism million times its size in a relatively short time. as an example of macro evolution.
Roy {Ed001's Note - Roy what he was suggesting is that there were eggs in the beans which hatched, no evolution, just standard cycle of life.}
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Discussion #622Talk Sense

14 dec 2011 18:19:56
watched project camelot interview with george kavassilas,its a bit new age stuff,but george defoo is convinced about 2012! infact its he is a matter of fact about it,makes you think.
frankyscouse

{Ed033's Note - I think george kavassilas is a complete fruit cake myself.}

 

Deffo strange person edd, one thing thou he is not lying hes convinced about 2012, he got me thinking about religon as well, i am a roman catholic and the bit he said about catholism being the anti christ got me thinking. Frankys ouse

{Ed033's Note - No, I don't think he's lying. I think he's a nut case.}
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Discussion #621Talk Sense

14 Dec 2011 03:02:18
Awrite ed033 have to say am a big fan of you helping inform everyone. I could do with some links though.. Heres where I stand. Illuminati is true i feel and information is being held back. However what your opinion on the giant skeletons that have been found, pictured, then been taken by governments? One was over 25feet! Maybe the giants the old testament was talking about? And what about astral travel etc? Had a terrifying moment with it myself. And finally what are your thoughts on the freeman on the land principle? I feel its the best way to stop the governments control. Anything i should be aware of? Thanks

{Ed033's Note - I think there are 3 questions there and a comment about the illuminati, I'll answer the 3 questions with 3 separate replies. I'll make a comment on the Illuminati. To me the illuminati cannot be 1 faction, there seems to be too much in-fighting so must be at least 2 factions.}

 

The top of the pyramid has been united for generations. The illuminati have been steadily unifying (papacy, jesuit, black nobility etc etc) as they have a common enemy - us. In our lifetime we may see the end result of this - it may begin on 21/12/2012..

{Ed033's Note - I see in-fighting and that is why I say there must be at least 2 factions.
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Freeman on the land/sovereign info is beneficial for people to look into to get a certain mind-set. The mind-set is unique to them but I think we need to start realising that people come first and companies/corporations are only there to benefit us not the other way round. In addition to this we might want to realise that 1% of the population having everything and the other 99% having nothing is a stupid system to be in. Below is a youtube clip where Norway have started down the correct route whereby the people of Norway share in the oil profits because they own the oil.

Here is a link to Vin's podcasts of TNS radio where if you listen to the podcasts, you get to hear more info about sovereignty which maybe beneficial to some people - www.tnsradio.com/vins-pods.html

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I don't know too much about astral travel myself. The Monroe Institute reckon with their courses, you can astral project / go out of body - www.monroeinstitute.org/gateway_voyage/about/



I think things related to astral travel which maybe helpful to people is the remote viewing information / remote viewing courses available. The following youtube link is not any recommendation by me but just gives some info - www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3c-V7cFrXw



On a similar note, even though this is not a recommendation from me as I haven't bought this course but David Wilcock reckons that his Access Your Higher Self Video would be beneficial to people - www.divinecosmos.com/amember/signup.php#7

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Can i ask Ed what infighting do you see?

{Ed033's Note - At least 1 faction wants to start a war in Syria and Iran and then start WW3 at a later date and at least 1 other faction doesn't. If there was only 1 faction then there would either be no planned war in Syria and Iran or they would have already started the war in Syria and Iran.
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Events do seem to be moving in that direction though.

{Ed033's Note - If you have 2 factions or more in-fighting, 1 of them is going to win out at some point.}
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Discussion #620Talk Sense

14 Dec 2011 00:36:05

Robot head found on the moon - part of a Richard Hoagland interview with Project Camelot

 

Hoagland is full of **** . Watch 4 or 5 of his interviews about different subjects and you will see this for yourself .
Project Camelot , themselves , say that they do not always agree with what their interviewees say . Why ? Bill and kerry know finding nuggets of truth often involves wading waist-deep in s**t .

jimi88

{Ed033's Note - Richard Hoagland is probably scared of having another "heart attack" if he tells us his "whole truth". Obviously Kerry and Bill don't trust Hoagland with certain aspects of what he says and you need to take what Hoagland says with a "pinch of salt" but there is some truth somewhere in what Hoagland says I believe.}
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Just looking at this guy's post, so doe's he believe star wars is real then, as it's a film, jedi is a religion and it starts by saying "a long time ago in a galaxy far far away", oh it must be!
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Ed033 .
I agree , Hoagland is best considered with a pinch of salt . Out of all the interviews i've seen on Camelot , he and Wilcox are the least convincing interviewees . Have you watched the Aaron McCollum interview ? That is waaaay out there and harder to swallow than a cactus

jimi88 {Ed033's Note - You mean Wilcock? Yes, I listened to the Aaron McCollum.
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Discussion #619Talk Sense

13 Dec 2011 21:00:58
Ed, bit of a different one for you here. I have been reading about how people are addicted to buying computer games (me included on a minimal level).

From my own perspective, games get hyped up big time, then they get released for £35-£40, then a few months later you seem them for £10-£15 and can't help but buy them. I did this frequently when up to about a year ago. The result being that people like me have wasted loads o money on games that they will never play, because (thankfully) they don't have the time. I've now banned myself from buying games unless I really, really want them. Furthermore I am shifting a load on ebay and dedicating more time to my poor old guitar. Seriously, loads of people have this problem.

Then there is the issue of games themselves being very addictive...............

Adam

{Ed033's Note - The addiction appears to be definitely real for a lot of people. Maybe parents with young children should realise that computer games can be really addictive and make more informed choices about computer games. Obviously adults can make their own informed choice if they realise that there is a possibility they may become addicted.}

 

A tip for u
never share controllers with other addicts
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Discussion #618Talk Sense

13 Dec 2011 17:58:23
Ok apart from all the alien,Illumininati and war Posts that seem to dominate the conspiracy talk on this site has anyone else heard the story of a man who was a blacksmith and a sheep farmer who's livestock was being taken by a large winged beast (Dragon) if i am brave enough to use the term, So he made a suit of armour which covered his whole body and covered it in the the wool he had sheared from the last of his stock and waited in his field Disguised as an armoured sheep for this Beast to strike...Now after a period of time the beast did attack this guy and swooped him up and this Black smith plundged his sword under a section of the wing/chest...He realised after a period of time that he had Hurt this massive amimal as the aminal was bleeding and started to Dip its flight pattern quite aggresively, so he placed his hands on the wound hoping that the Creature didnt just drop him to his doom...Now i know this sounds Very far fetched but bare in mind that Dinosaurs have ruled the earth at one point in time so while men were running round in armour and brandashing swords surely this could of happened

MJ

 

Sounds a bit mad mate any links/videos/articles/evidence
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So you want video of something that apparently happened in the medievil times..Oooooookkkkkkkkkk oh ye the last terradactyl siting was in texas in 1976 by a 2 police officers and a couple of women so could be true you never know

MJ

{Ed033's Note - People have allegedly seen thunderbirds / pterodactyls in recent times in different parts of the world
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I seen one in Cardiff a couple of years back!

O no wait sorry that was Torchwood.
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Eh whats the attitude for mate, you diddnt mention when it was, your the one with the dodgy story, i asked for evidence i.e and documents, videos about it, so i could make my own informed desiscion, (which i think is being kind considering how ridiculous your story is), if your not going to back it up with anything dont expect a 'dragon' story to be taken seriously
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Discussion #617Talk Sense

13 Dec 2011 13:37:07
i have recently watched the zietgeist movie (2007).

the way he compares religion to astronomy is amazing i have always questioned religion and god but i have never really decided if i believe in it all or not, but this movie makes soo much sense and the details are too long to write on here, does anyone else belive that the bible or other holy books characters are just personifications of the stars?

would really be interested in peoples views
Billlee1991 (first time poster)

 

The Zeitgeist is full of inaccuracies and is more based on opinion than fact. If you want a proper discussion and questioning of religion read some of books by Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris or Richard Dawkins. They provide a fuller understanding of the issues pertaining to belief.

Graeme
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Or................................they just totally dismiss it, doesn t mean they are right. As far as I am concerned, until someone shows me footage- or better still, see it live for myself- of some mud crawling out of wet mud, standing up and starting to multiply, then producing all sorts of animals etc................................I will believe what I believe.

P.s There is no way I can show you proof of Gods existence, either. Either way cannot be proven, what you believe in.

p.p.s

While serving in the army, I never once witnessed an explosion that created ORDER either, would love to be proved wrong on that one,lol.
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Evolution is a proved fact; it has been proved scientifically countless times. To see 'mud crawling out of mud' as you put it is completely missing the point. Evolution does not happen overnight - you cannot witness it as you claim. It happens over time with small changes slowly adding up. If you are interested in learning about it you can easily find books in the library or likely fairly cheap in a bookstore. O.K so you don't think order can be created from an 'explosion' - one which was of a magnitude we cannot comprehend, but at least you admit that 'order' cannot just happen - like it is with God. It is not upon me to show you proof, it is impossible too prove a negative; the burden of proof lies with the believers and if you freely admit that you cannot show me proof then why should I believe?

Hitchens, Harris and Dawkins do not just freely dismiss religion. They have written many books about why they do not believe and how they came to their conclusions along with why they feel religion in fact causes problems. I would recommend reading them. They may not alter your view but at least you may understand their reasoning - which in my opinion is their defining point (especially Harris), that logic, reason and evidence should be our tools for discourse, not belief.

Graeme

{Ed033's Note - There maybe micro evolution of a species altering slightly but where is the evidence of the macro evolution ie big changes from one species to another because of micro evolution. big changes do take place and appear to take place in one go and not because of micro evolution ie small changes that become big changes over millions of years time. Just no evidence for me. There is another mechanism at work. How we came about doesn't fit into the evolution model but if we were genetically tweaked would make sense. }
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Christ is my Saviour and Redeemer.
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Zeitgeist: The Movie - Religion (1 of 3)

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