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Discussion #5516Talk Sense

26 Nov 2016 16:54:11
Angela Merkel has declared war on alternative media that she says are responsible for subverting the government's control over the public.


goo.gl/6Yubi3

 

Rian
26 Nov 2016 17:21:22
More censorship from crazy Merkel.
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jimmyjones
26 Nov 2016 19:41:28
She has declared war on the ones who are really giving us the "real"news and who have put a cat amongst the pigeons, not all alternative news sources are credible I know, but not one mainstream media source are worth the air time they are given.
This is no longer about left or right wing anymore' it's about the"we" as a whole.
The elite will try to push this integration through to meet their end game, the rest of us are just expendable, the vehicle of left or right inclination doesn't matter, it's just a way of of dividing us and keeping us from keeping an eye on the true agenda, I've been right leaning all my adult life but I'm beginning to see things differently'neither side of the spectrum matter, it's just about "us"
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TTTS
26 Nov 2016 22:53:44
Merkel is as dangerous as any of the western leaders if not more so. The breaking up of the EU has to be the way forward.
{Ed033's Note - yes, it's clear to see now that the EU was created to ruin Europe.
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TTTS
27 Nov 2016 03:17:14
My breaking up doesn't involve distinctiveness of race.
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KimPhilby
27 Nov 2016 11:13:33
It will break. If Britain can successfully leave then losing the second largest contributor would cause another economic shock that would cause another crisis in the euro. If le Pen wins, she'd call for a French referendum on leaving and reinstituting the franc. The eu couldn't survive a founder member leaving.
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Discussion #9376Talk Sense

26 Nov 2016 01:21:55
here is something that is something new to me. This video interview is about [the real?] Paul McCartney having a son before he supposedly died in a car crash in 1966. btw i think its BS but still interesting.

 

rank0 rank1 rank2 Ed033
26 Nov 2016 04:40:54
Does he say around 3:45, something like; not long after my "second birthday" my mother told me that my real father was James Paul McCartney. I knew who he was when mum told me. I obviously had heard of him and we have his music. I didn't believe her straight away and I said, oh don't be stupid mum.

If he did say "second birthday", then it's difficult to believe the above.
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frankyscouser
26 Nov 2016 11:04:38
will have to listen again edd, what surprises me of this conspiracy is, certain journos like Nick Kollerstrom are making books on this and to me it dilutes his work on 7/7.
{Ed033's Note - Yes, i think Dr. Nick Kollerstrom lowered his credibility by writing a book on this subject.

Nick Kollerstrom does seem to believe 100% that the original Paul was replaced in 1966 though.

Personally i'd like confirmation that the post 1966 Paul is 2 inches taller than the original Paul and the post 1966 Paul has green eyes and not brown eyes like the original Paul, as the confirmed height difference of 2 inches would be difficult to explain.
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frankyscouser
26 Nov 2016 19:13:53
height could be down to shoes considering cuban heel styles were the fashion in the 60s, eye color I have no idea but if this feller looked like macca and was as talented as macca he surley would have made a fortune on his apperence based on thos facts alone, also talking like a scouser is not as easy as people think, even the very best actors can not pull it off.
{Ed033's Note - i thought talking scouse was just about adding the word, 'like' onto the end of a sentence, like :)
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frankyscouser
26 Nov 2016 21:09:57
haha.

British Accents 2 - Liverpool (Scouse) Accent
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frankyscouser
26 Nov 2016 21:37:40
btw that feller trying to do the accent butchered it lol,
it is not easy to do, mcartney still has the accent even thou its over 50 years since he has lived here,
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Discussion #5515Talk Sense

25 Nov 2016 19:51:11
Latest Rich Planet show where Richard D. Hall interviews highly respected expert in statement analysis, Peter Hyatt. They discuss Kate and Gerry McCann's statements. Part1 of 3.

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Discussion #9960Talk Sense

25 Nov 2016 15:02:56
Does anyone know those council wardens that patrol about and can fine you for dropping cigarettes, litter and things. This is were I can't get a straight answer, are you legally obliged to give them your details like a police officer? I also don't know if its an act or law That backs them up, if its an act then I'm sure I don't need to say anything as an act isn't a law its an agreement between two or more parties. However I'm no expert.

 

{Ed033's Note - well, this is where you have to ask yourself whether you're living in police state.

After you get arrested, the first thing out of a police officers mouth is; you have the right to remain silent.

The answer is that you have the right to remain silent. However if you ever find yourself under arrest for remaining silent, you know you're in a police state.
Mr.x
25 Nov 2016 15:40:11
Thanks ed, those wardens are rife in my area its like there just out to make money for the system. Iv even seen them stand across the road from my local pub just waiting for someone to drop cigarette butt. I'm starting to believe that we do live in a police state. Thanks again. If they confront me Il remain silent, Il just kid on I'm a mute lol.
{Ed033's Note - yes, just walk away from them and keep walking.
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Rian
25 Nov 2016 17:38:23
I'm not in favour of litter wardens giving out fines, but people who throw their rubbish on the ground in public places are hugely ignorant, and I have no sympathy for them.
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Mr.x
25 Nov 2016 17:52:42
Agreed however every smoker has threw a butt away a few times in there life, me included. £50 fine, the most expensive ciggy you have ever smoked lol.
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Sanogolovesbentner
25 Nov 2016 18:27:53
I'm with you rian. But the council need to start providing enough bins. I will walk continuing on my journey without detour for ten mins with rubbish in my hand if I don't come across a bin it goes on the floor.
{Ed033's Note - People have to realise that their 'council' is not the hundreds of years old original council, but instead, their 'council' is a for profit company with shareholders that just happens to have the word 'council' in its company name.

Every 'council' is solely there for the benefit of the shareholders of that company and that means all the 'council' is interested in is increased profits for its shareholders.
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Discussion #9998Talk Sense

24 Nov 2016 23:28:58 Thread on 9/11 below continued here.

Can you be more specific [on 9/11], I'm not sure what you're referring to.

 

{Ed033's Note - If you don't know much about 9/11 (and obviously you do not), then a start is to read a scientific study put into a book - Dr. Judy Wood's book called 'Where did the Towers Go?'


If you won't do that then how about watching the below, which has scientific analysis using 3D models followed by some facts and some theories.

Richard D. Hall - 9/11 3D Analysis 2016 Update

Mr.x
25 Nov 2016 13:24:02
I'm sure that's the book my pal showed me, if it is its a little pricey if your not into 9/ 11. I'm sure he said it was around £30.
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Big Al
25 Nov 2016 16:01:52
Edd033, I remember years ago on YouTube I came across a video of one of the crashes. The video was titled with numbers obviously to deter it being found by those willing to take it down. It was amateur footage. It was footage that I never seen before or seen again. The camera man is sitting right beneath its flight path and he's probably 100 metres away from the tower which it hits.

However as the camera is looking upwards and as the plane / drone enters, the video turns to that old fuzzy grey screen. Basically proves the real football and probably damaging footage was deleted or destroyed. That's why I don't particularly take notice of the videos made available. Because they've been edited or don't show enough. Wings missing and almost cartoon imagery. Even the videos close to towers have the explosion noises edited out. Thus you're making a conclusion of tampered evidence/ videos. It's a shame.
{Ed033's Note - yes, 9/11 allowed the start of the 'Greater Israel' project.
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muscatred
25 Nov 2016 17:22:26
I wasn't referring to 9/11 but to franky's question about the VIP thing.

As an aside, I watched that when you first posted it. I actually thought it was a really interesting exercise and well put together but what's fascinating is that his conclusions fly in the face of his own investigation. He's gone to all this effort and come to the conclusion that the footage of planes flying into the buildings is genuine but he still can't admit that planes flew into the buildings.

He tries to justify this by presenting some other evidence as fact when it isn't (simulations show that that airspeed was easily possible and soft materials not being able to damage harder materials is nonsense) . Sorry Ed, you'll have to find something a bit more convincing.
{Ed033's Note - I'm not here to try to convince people of anything only to show them some stuff they may not be aware of and let them make their own mind up.
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Sanogolovesbentner
25 Nov 2016 18:32:15
That's one thing I respect you for ed033! You don't edit pick or choose just put the info out there. I still can't get my head round 9/11 and I don't doubt anything. Keep posting the stuff ed. been a revelation since I found this page.
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Big Al
25 Nov 2016 18:54:41
Ino mate. As long as Israel is protected then the world will see no end of war.
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Discussion #2224Talk Sense

24 Nov 2016 23:17:34
What a speech by Victor orban. He's certainly awake and a great leader

 

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Discussion #2223Talk Sense

24 Nov 2016 18:42:09
What the hell is going on in Turkey? A bill proposed to allow child rapists to marry the victim and be pardoned was stopped for now. How on earth did the bill even get that far!


goo.gl/bGku8u

 

Mr.x
25 Nov 2016 11:00:31
Don't mean it in a bad way neither have I got anything against Muslims. There prophet married a 6 year old and done the dirty when she was 9. Muslims probably take there religion more serious than any other religion, to them Mohammed is a role model they think hees beautiful and perfect. Imo Islam is an outdated religion (like most) . However they still follow there old traditions. Therefore a percentage of Muslims wouldn't see nothing wrong with child marriage because there prophet did it.
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muscatred
25 Nov 2016 18:02:04
Big Al, a question if I may. Genarlow Wilson, a student in the USA, was sentenced to 11 years in jail and life on the sex offenders register because he received oral sex from a 15 year old girl when he was 17. Do you think this punishment was appropriate? I certainly don't.

If you don't either then you have some common ground with the authors of this bill, it was designed to protect consenting and committed youths from being charged with statutory rape.

Rightly, the population of Turkey pointed out that such a bill could be used to protect child molesters and promote the practice of taking child brides and so it was rejected. The intent of the author can be understood and the reactions of the Turkish people can be praised.
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Big Al
25 Nov 2016 19:09:31
Muscatred you worry me with every response mate.
I'd suggest you have a look into Rape cases in Turkey and the age of the men and victims/ children. Your example is an isolated case and you're fully aware is represents a microscopical percentage.

It was not designed to protect consent between youth. Why do you think there was such an outcry to such a bill? Why did erdogan ensure the imprisonment of former Miss Turkey for posting a poem that apparently criticises him? Why did he state women are not equal to women? Man wake up. It's becoming an Islamic state.

You're very clever in your arguments for the opposing side however.
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Discussion #12119Talk Sense

24 Nov 2016 12:35:38
Whilst we are been distracted by the "alt right" freak show and all the other 'news' we are being fed by the 1 percent's propaganda machine, far more pressing issues are slipping through under the radar.

Dr Graham Downing - Unborn Babies Being Prepared For AI and Transhumanism Through Vaccines and Medicine.

 

{Ed033's Note - yes, if they can get people fighting over any issue, such as the wildly popular political correctness issue, then they can carry on with their negative agenda unhindered.

And if people ever do 'wake up' from political correctness, they are going to wonder how we ever got into such a negative situation.

How about this to begin with; freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of expression, no such thing as a thought crime.

Instead of; mummy mainstream media and nanny state government told me to call you names if you sound politically incorrect.
TTTS
24 Nov 2016 18:08:35
There shouldn't be a problem with free speech just like there shouldn't be a problem with free speech been challenged.
I like to think of myself being open minded and not totally controlled by the system. What I see going on atm and being highlighted by the MSM is the 2 extreme agendas being pushed infront of us more so than ever forcing weaker people into supporting an extreme form of Islam and an extreme form of Westernization/ cristianality. I refuse to be pigeons holed into either and whilst bring an atheist I have no problem with moderates living side by side in a secular country.
These extremists need air time but rational people need airtime also so as extreme arguments can be seen for what they really are, a division wedge and tool used by the 1%.
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Mr.x
25 Nov 2016 11:03:48
Its turning into oppression! As for all the pc people that imo is a disability and I mean that in all seriousness.
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Discussion #9959Talk Sense

24 Nov 2016 05:16:12
I refuse to believe Apollo landed on the moon, there's a major problem on the way to the moon its the Van Allen belt. NASA even admitted they haven't passed the belt, the videos not hard to find on youtube. The craft was airtight however it was made of very lightweight materials. There's no way the astronauts passed the belt without a lethal dose of radiation plus the radiation would mess up the electronics. You have to bear in mind that the Cold war was getting out of control, also the space race was on between the U. S. and the U. S. S. R. The U. S. clearly did it as a show of strength. If they did land on the moon then the moon is closer than we're told due to the fact we can't pass the Van Allen belt. Just my opinion but I feel strongly that they didn't land on the moon.

In regard to 9/ 11, you need to look past all the garbage videos on youtube and look at the facts. Bodies were blew out of windows and even on roofs of nearby buildings, the bodies were blew out a side of the building were it would be highly unlikely the blast would be powerful enough to travel that far. Steel was melted, aviation fuel doesn't burn anywhere near the temperature required to melt steel. Bush family knew the Bin Laden family, if your involved in any construction work in the middle east then its highly likely you would be working with the Bin Laddens. Government classified a great deal of the papers related to 9/ 11 (there still classified today) . Iv used a saying most of my life " if it smells like sh*t then it usually is " Don't believe everything the government tells you.

 

Rian
24 Nov 2016 12:44:36
The Russians were always a step ahead of the US in the space race, and if there was a way past the Van Allen radiation belts they would have surely found it. It's difficult to imagine the Russians not making it to the moon soon after the US, if not before. And the Chinese would also be there by now.

There is also the small detail of no crater beneath the landing module, and no dust on the feet of the landing module, the letter C printed on one of the rocks, the backgrounds being the same on different shoots on different days, the Hasselblad cameras taking perfect pictures with film that passed through the Van Allen belts, the odd reflections in the visors, the odd shadow configuration as if there were several different light sources. I really would like to know what people involved in the Russian side of the space race thought about all this.
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KimPhilby
25 Nov 2016 00:38:32
Start here with this. Most people involved are now dead or old.
The Moon Landing through Soviet Eyes


goo.gl/kxKmGx
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Rian
25 Nov 2016 13:22:53
Thanks KP. He's very diplomatic with his answers.
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KimPhilby
25 Nov 2016 22:34:45
Just Russian politeness. I've been thinking back to it, but there wasn't really much coverage. My father seemed sceptical I recall.
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Discussion #9997Talk Sense

23 Nov 2016 22:08:51
Some of you may have noticed my posts and that fact that my views are in opposition to a lot of what is said on here. I accept that some conspiracy theories have a kernel of truth to them but I believe most are a result of people being selective in the evidence they choose to believe. I think it's clear that Apollo 11 landed on the moon, that Al Qaida highjacked 4 planes on Sep 11th and flew them into various buildings and I don't believe the Rothschild family control the world.

In terms of the US election I think it's laughable that people thought the election was going to be rigged in favour of Clinton but today I experienced the power of conspiracy theories for myself.

I saw a link to an article that argued that voter fraud did take place but in fact in favour of Trump, it didn't cite much evidence other than that voting patterns were unusual and that the 'just enough votes' nature of Trump's victory in four swing states was suspect. You have no idea how much I want this to be true and I find myself battling my better judgement on the issue.

For interest I link the article. I wonder what the other posters think of it.


goo.gl/mqliAZ

 

{Ed033's Note -
1. Nobody has ever said on here that the Rothschild family control the world. They clearly don't but they do have a fair amount of influence

2. It's completely unclear whether Apollo 11 landed on the moon or not

3. Wtf - It's seriously not clear that Al Qaeda highjacked 4 planes on Sep 11th and flew them into various buildings. (this web site is way too advanced for you)
KimPhilby
23 Nov 2016 22:26:20
I'm all for disagreements. Voter fraud did happen. Clinton had 3 million votes from unregistered illegal voters and dead people.
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Big Al
23 Nov 2016 22:31:10
Do you work for them muscatred? You'd make an excellent politician mate.
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Rian
23 Nov 2016 23:18:05
I think you miss the military more than you're willing to admit. Being obeyed. Always being right (which of course you always are) . Not actually thinking freely, but not realising it. Thinking everyone else is wrong. Naturally.

Good luck with that.
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frankyscouser
24 Nov 2016 00:53:02
muscatred out of interest what do you class as a conspiracy?
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Chrisp85
24 Nov 2016 00:55:21
Building 7. That is all I will say, I recon you will not even know what it is, which speaks volumes.
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Discussion #2222Talk Sense

23 Nov 2016 15:14:21
Great video on famous peoples thoughts on zionism. Princess Diana for some of you that don't know was about to become a voice for the Palestinians before she was murdered.

 

frankyscouser
23 Nov 2016 21:16:46
good link AL
any ideas who is the actress reciving the oscar who made the speech?
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Rian
23 Nov 2016 23:02:47
I'm pretty sure it's Vanessa Redgrave Franky.
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Big Al
23 Nov 2016 22:28:02
Vanessa Redgrave. Extraordinary moment to do soo and required sheer b*lls. I believe she was marked as an anti semite and was barred from entering the US for many years for that comment. Also seen a lot less Hollywood opportunities. I do wonder why.
She did a film or something about Palestine were she then of course knew what was going on and does go on.
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frankyscouser
23 Nov 2016 23:32:14
Vanessa Redgrave? cheers guys, yep that would have rocked hollywood .
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