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Discussion #11510Talk Sense

26 Apr 2016 16:23:25
Did anyone ele notice
That when merckel and Obama where talking
The only national flags was German And American with two European ones each side
And also outside Brussels there is only European flags now Apposed to every national flag of each country involved in Europe
Just one more example of this sly transition
Just my view what do others think of this.

jimmyjones
26 Apr 2016 17:12:42
Ill be honest and say I can't watch merkel on tv. never mind obama, what that woman and her cronies have done to europe is mind boggling,
And to see her and obama brown nose each other just makes me feel like screaming, this might have gotten off point a bit, but if we don't vote leave when we get the chance we can kiss our own flag goodbye. along with any remaining national identity we still have.
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southampton87
26 Apr 2016 18:33:02
Yes it does seem like we will be kissing our nationality good bye
And I agree I nearly vomited in my mouth when I heard both speak.
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horse4-bronze-coin1 horse10-bronzeribbonplate-1ew horse14-bronzeplate-1w Oncearedalwaysared
26 Apr 2016 19:39:14
It's definitely moving towards an American model where we turn into states, people will argue that's the only way to compete in the global market. I disagree the more competition the better for consumers.
{Ed033's Note - It's all to benefit the 'elite', not us (who they think of as the slaves)
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southampton87
26 Apr 2016 23:01:37
Excatly, don't believe all the rubbish they will spout. Not even this new living wage they talk of. What they probably will do is pay every one the new wage but drop the hours. They are snakes.

And in a way we are accepting a deal from the devil anytime our govt offers something. And we all seen the movie lol
And no I'm not no preacher but this is what they do.

So vote out, the snakes and rats will feel sick and then have to go to plan b.
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Discussion #5249Talk Sense

25 Apr 2016 23:25:31
Professor Griff talks about the control grid.

 

southampton87
26 Apr 2016 00:46:25
See I understand exactly how this affected Americas youth
Then after biggie and Tupac (I wasn't a big fan) got killed that sent shock waves across the pond
Along with a certain dj Westwood who through public radio 1xtra and the like
Made uk garage grime and American rap culture mixed
And then a genre of underground garage were crews like roll deep London
Nasty crew London
Just examples of what the English listened to and got involved with and it used to promote gang culture / gang robberies drugs dealers dealers getting robbed
Robbing people's phones and handbags
Gang vs gang area vs area
Then uk kids were fully into the system of prison whilst at the same time the Lisbon treaty hit and flooded the country with Europeans leaving a big generation criminals and largely uneducated
Wot are your thought on this ed.
{Ed033's Note - i think part of what Professor Griff is saying is that they didn't like the young people listening to real hip hop like Public Enemy so they created the fake controlled hip hop bands, which allowed them to 'control' young people's minds to a degree.
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southampton87
26 Apr 2016 01:47:10
Yes certainly understand what he says in the sense of they changed hip hop
He seemed too know what he was talking about also quite fascinating what he said about certain individuals and bloodlines and the mean of the torch bearer meaning people follow them quite deep this side of it .
I was just referring to how it managed to hit britian quite hard during 98-2007 guns and gangs that is
Sorry to switch the point of the video
Thanks for posting.
{Ed033's Note - i think they want to ruin Britain (isn't that what we're seeing in Britain?) and guns and gangs is a small part of the ruination.
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southampton87
26 Apr 2016 02:43:30
It's a sad thing to say but I do agree
I think most just do not remember
the true britan that it was
Far far far them good days.
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jimmyjones
26 Apr 2016 17:19:37
Edd, truth be told I think they have almost succeeded, but I don't just think this is a Britain thing, i think this is more of a destroy western civilisations type of thing, through low morals, esteem, violence, and to me, it seems to be accelerated in English speaking/ Anglo saxon countries?
{Ed033's Note - yes, it's not just Britain.
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Supasub
26 Apr 2016 22:17:33
I was a Public Enemy fan when I was younger complete with black bomber jacket with patchwork and furry hood (yes a little bit of a sheep) . They had a huge following and we're very political instead of guns, bitches and drug dealing. Then along came NWA and Ice T and changed the hip hop/ rap scene towards what it is today. Another good one was KRS One/ Boogie Down Productions.
Professor Griff was portrayed as very pro black and militant as he supported the black panthers and wore combat gear. They just disappeared with flavour flav developing a drug habit and terminator x didn't really do anything.

Chuck D who was probably the main man still remains a voice of reason and intelligent but it seems odd and always has done how they just disappeared off the scene and almost had an orchestrated downfall. They bad a massive influence on me when I was younger though just because what their tracks were about. Another group from the UK who had a big following was Soul II Soul in the 80's. They had a good message but it just ended after some big albums and tracks. They were the biggest act around London in the late 80's early 90's pre house music even with their own shops in London. Then you end up with acts like So solid crew etc.
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Discussion #5248Talk Sense

25 Apr 2016 20:57:48
Was Prince sacrificed?

 

kingkenny7
26 Apr 2016 13:08:44
it will be interesting to see what the "official" cause of his death will be, could also explain as to why he was cremated so quickly especially if there was foul play, also we learnt very quickly that he only slept 3 hours a night, which leads people to suspect drugs, already the illuminati have a plausible cover story, ie a musician and drugs, thanks for posting ed033, as fast as they give you wealth and power they can take it away even faster especially if you don't keep your mouth shut.
{Ed033's Note - Yes, it appears that famous have to go along with anything and everything they request you to do like a slave, otherwise that's you finished being famous.
And if these famous people speak out or complain to others about them, they sacrifice you especially during ritual periods such as between mid April to May 1 during Baal worship time (Beltane).

More on Prince's death from Alex Jones and Mancow

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kingkenny7
26 Apr 2016 15:57:08
I never knew about merle haggard and chemtrails, bloody hell ed033 the whole entertainment industry is run by the devil himself, I always thought kurt cobain was a fraud as the day he signed to Geffen records he sold out, did they want his daughter as a sacrifice or had he just become no use to them at all, worth more dead than alive as it were.

it also goes a long way to explaining plastic surgery and why these people have to remain young and good looking. All this for so called fame, the music industry seems to be ideal for the Satanists, even though I am a massive led zeppelin fan, I have often wandered if the deaths of Robert plant's son and drummer john Bonham both died young, has anything to do with jimmy page and his obsession with the occult and alister Crowley, also sounds to me as if prince had a lot he wanted to get off his chest, this guy ManCow seems to know a awful lot about what goes on and with who, the bowie tit bit at the end was fascinating, the lady gaga bit unbelievable, film producers blatantly trying to recruit on behalf of satan himself.

I have always thought that there was something not quite right with Hollywood but never in my wildest dreams did I think it ran to this extent, thanks for posting.
{Ed033's Note - It appears that behind the scenes, this whole world is run to worship their version of Satan / Lucifer and the masses are completely unaware of it.
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Discussion #10877Talk Sense

25 Apr 2016 11:29:29
I am going to be honest I don't know much about the TTIP so any help would be appreciated, trust you guys more than stories published online. But is it basically a `trade deal` that gives the american co-operations more power within Europe then they have currently or am I clutching at straws?

 

KimPhilby
25 Apr 2016 14:14:27
Essentially yes. It mainly brings standards in line with American standards. But eu standards are higher than American.
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jimmyjones
25 Apr 2016 14:56:03
I'm thinking it is loaded in the USA's favour, I could be wrong, haven't paid much attention to it.
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horse4-bronze-coin1 horse10-bronzeribbonplate-1ew horse14-bronzeplate-1w Oncearedalwaysared
25 Apr 2016 15:19:25
Thanks guys, I'm of the same opinion it appears like a backhanded way of taking control of Europe eventually. A big enough bloc of countries that they probably believe can take on Russia!
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southampton87
25 Apr 2016 19:47:51
Not only to take on Russia but makes it easier to drain there money and make there economy even worse by controlling most of the destination things go and how much it costs and who can trade with what .
In regards to TTIP I see a report about
America having the upper hand in any negotiations also if a European company could make a better deal they are not aloud to interfere or distrupt Americas trade
Let alone becuase of America quality controls are less stringent than Europe and Europe is worse than britian America have upto 70 of food on shelfs GMO
That can cause tumours and such and people do not no
Like u say it all benifits America and Obama
And as u have said it more power and added revenue for America
On top of the damage Europe has do to our industry
Look at some of the European food and do not get me started with polish bricks I mean bread.
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horse4-bronze-coin1 horse10-bronzeribbonplate-1ew horse14-bronzeplate-1w Oncearedalwaysared
25 Apr 2016 20:12:48
Southampton, makes you wonder why Obama wants us to stay in Europe, all to do with having the upper hand over us. Hopefully the protests across Europe will put an end to it, although it will still happen just a different name.
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Discussion #11509Talk Sense

24 Apr 2016 14:14:38
Russian Air Force jet has intercepted a U.S. jet, in an apparently dangerous manoeuvre. I bet it was closer to Russia than it was USA. I cannot stand Obama anymore, especially after coming to England to help Dave destroy our sovereignty.

Hope USA aren't stupid enough to think they are in any way capable of going toe to toe with Russia. When I go to the woods if there is a bees or wasps nest ,I steer clear because this is their territory and I will get stung. USA are trying to mess with everyone's world. It's even a joke when USA use WW2, didn't they steal the Jewish scientist that give them the edge for the best part of 70 years?

And When a country chooses to make friends with the Turks it shows their colours.
I bet the reason the cook destroyer was unable to shoot down the two Russian jets was because their electronics did not work, lol. Because I can remember the Turks shooting down a Russian jet knowing they had the backing of USA and no one said much. USA are pushing for war, most people know their power game.

 

TheBlueman8
24 Apr 2016 16:01:00
But the real question is who is the actual power that's playing these two against each other?
quite possibly the 'state' that gets 3billion in aid from America yearly.
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southampton87
25 Apr 2016 01:41:53
Everything is Americas fault at the min ask me tomo
Lol.
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Melbourne CFC
25 Apr 2016 03:13:27
I'd love to hear your take on the Russian plane that flew over the US ship only last month mate. Or is that ok because it wasn't the big bad US doing the flying.

Worth taking Kims view on this and realising that Putin is a crim and god is he good at making the conspiracy minded believe he is the good guy in all this. A WW3 scenario ends in both Russia and the US being destroyed. Maybe it's time to think about who that would benefit?
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southampton87
25 Apr 2016 05:20:47
Yh mate that is the cook destroyer that was 75 miles of the cost of Russian boarder whilst USA where doing a (drill) with there great friends Poland lol
Like I said Turkey had no problem shooting down a Russian jet
But why did 2 Russian jets fly straight over back and fourth 7 times and the destroyer didn't fire
Couldn't Mabey?
Mabey Russian electronic EMP stop them fireing?
Our what about at the start of the month on the 9th of April American destroyer trying to tell china that china can't arm it's own sea
China's reply keep ****ing around we will nuke u
Is that Putin making America do this
Also I. Putin making America put bombers based in aus in stoking distance of the china sea. Lol
Or let's go to what happend a couple of days ago where USA again where trying to fly in Russian air space and two jets dived in dangerous to intercept them
So in 1 months America what to go to china sea try start a beef with china in there sea
Then a few days later travel to Poland that only happens to be next door to Russia
Then again a few days later try fly with jets in Russian air space
All tied in with America trying to surround Russia all the time by trying to put army bases on Russian door step with the intention of being able to get big man power on Russian soil
Russia no this so are flying and acting aggressive to warn USA they are not ****in around
But look at the sheer rubbish that comes from Obama mouth
People in England are more controlled than most of the other country's including Russia
But what would I know I only when't to school with two Russian nippers and speak to them regularly on Facebook
And my good mate just got back from this bad place Russia from see Alex and said they had real good fun .
I do not doubt kim and his great words or direction he put me to that did open my eyes
But more to the fact Russia and America are very similar and covertly work together just look at there list of terrorist that was liked to KGB and CIA
And any American president that wots to try with our govt to steal my identity and nationality and replace it by calling us a European is asking for trouble
Putin is a crim I do not doubt
Same as bush, Blair oh but there still free in our great society of course and our honest tax paying deceitful prime minister dave Cameron every one of these are criminal
Even the richest company's in the world are run by criminals
But I will tell you one thing America and britian
Will stab you in the back whilst smiling and telling you it is good for you
Same as this fake democracy we live
Oi do u won't a referendum
Ok
Let's fix it and do what we won't anyway
We become Europe and get any closer to Americas ass hole I'm moveing to kasiqstan lol.
{Ed001's Note - to be fair to the US over the China stuff, that is not the same thing. China have taken possession of islands that are disputed, and generally accepted to belong to the Philippines, and threatened the Philippines over it. They have done similar things with a number of other local Asian nations, which has caused a build up of tension and armed forces. The USA's aid was actually requested by the Philippines and a couple of other involved countries. It is very close to open warfare there right now. Which is fun for me, my fiancee is a Filipina and we are due to get married in the Philippines in January! Though it doesn't seem anywhere is the world is safe from these tensions any more.}
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southampton87
25 Apr 2016 06:05:27
Alright cheers ed
But why do china won't to arm the island
There must be a threat there doing it for and I thought it was a island in the china sea as they used to rule to world at one point.
{Ed001's Note - yes, the threat is that they want to use them as bases, whereas the Philippines use them for fishing etc. The Chinese are a threat in that region, just like the US is. Don't make the mistake of thinking it is all one-sided, there are no good guys in government, just different bad ones.}
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Discussion #10876Talk Sense

24 Apr 2016 09:49:09
I'm sorry to whinge about Obama again, but he has now come out and said a trade deal will take 5-10 years, that would only be the case if he were the one organising it. I'm sure someone competent who has there nations interest at heart would sort it out. I know the main stream media is government controlled or at least it's in their interest not to go against them. But the lack of coverage for the leave campaign is frightening.

 

southampton87
24 Apr 2016 14:37:55
He is just saying his normal crap to keep this big game going
Just think of this USA has stars on there flag and so does the EU can see America wanting to tie EU army with NATO backed by America so they have a bigger army to take on Russia and china as Kim stated 60 percent of there trade comes to U. K.
So no one in America will back Obama there and they will sort it quick
And brexit has only a little bit of financial backing to try tie them down to how much exposure they get
Just one more tactic to stall us getting what we would wish
But there is plenty of time the remainians have lied lied lied and controlled for all to see and I think the brexit will get more intense as it gets closer
Germans are doing a march in protest over the TTip
So will be interesting to see if there ignored too
Also it is stupid of Cameron to bring a president that is only in power till January lol and all other candidates are saying we should brexit
That's why Obama is constantly trying to cause Agro in china on the 9th of April then on 14 they to a destroyer 75 miles of Russia boarder Russian planes did fly over in aggressive manor
And the day before yesterday a Russian jet intercepted a us jet for flying inside there boarder again
elites are panicking and are trying everything to start something
This plan started as a German one and America have tried to adopt it so they control a big army and a big govt and a extra massive money collection run.
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jimmyjones
24 Apr 2016 19:15:43
Good old shillary'sorry Hillary has jumped on the bandwagon with obama now and stated that we are better off staying in the eu, christ where do these people get off' sticking their bloody oars into other nations affairs, seriously'take care of the mess' that is the states before you tell us how to deal with our troubles.
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southampton87
25 Apr 2016 01:39:48
Hopefully people get angry with this and vote out mate it's best for all concerns apart from the rich or bankers.
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Discussion #5247Talk Sense

23 Apr 2016 22:11:49
The 2 Lee Harvey Oswalds, which 1 was the impersonator and why have 2 Lee Harvey Oswalds in the first place?

 

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Discussion #5246Talk Sense

23 Apr 2016 18:25:31
Unprecedented mass die-offs of animals seen around the world every year now.

2015 die-offs video

 

southampton87
23 Apr 2016 21:52:08
Looks like the elite are pushing hard for mans last days.
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TTTS
24 Apr 2016 05:57:51
Chile was particularly hard hid with fish, whale, dolphin kills plus land animals and birds feeding on the fish.
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Discussion #5245Talk Sense

23 Apr 2016 12:01:00
Meet Sofia, the world's most advanced A.I. humanoid robot thus far created (outside of black ops technology).

 

TTTS
23 Apr 2016 14:37:21
The armies and police forces of the future

I'd imagine there's better in the vaults which will be wheeled out when the human race have been conditioned to the level required.
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southampton87
23 Apr 2016 19:23:16
Yes, if you put that with the advanced stuff we hope they don't have u could have a mean type of robot.
Google A.I. has done alright so far, but the self drive has took a bit of a hit when the google car crashed into the bus.
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TTTS
24 Apr 2016 13:59:16
Robots to replace half the global workforce By 2045


http://goo.gl/mFI7xc
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southampton87
25 Apr 2016 10:13:42
Well that will suit these billionaires just fine won't it
Make the gap even bigger
Ohhhhhh my day to piss on these will come

Probably when I sleep but a win is a win lol.
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Discussion #5244Talk Sense

23 Apr 2016 11:35:16
why you shouldn't trust anything anyone says on television/video ever again

convincing synthesised target face on top of the face in the source video.

 

Sanogolovesbentner
23 Apr 2016 11:56:56
Weirdo stuff that ed.
{Ed033's Note - it's great for creating even more fake news than we currently see.
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Sanogolovesbentner
23 Apr 2016 15:44:02
I think that people who research this sort of thing don't realise how it will get out of control.
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southampton87
23 Apr 2016 16:02:14
Yes it does make sense as in I've seen a few different videos on youtube
And u see something in the main TV media they say something different lol
Cheers for posting ed.
{Ed033's Note - ok
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Discussion #11508Talk Sense

23 Apr 2016 03:05:39
Has anyone noticed how Obama just threatens that uk will be at the back of the list for trade deals becuase they will concentrate on the main block of Europe!
And Cameron was stood there looking pleased with himself that he his govt and country is now apparently behind Europe?
And what is more no paper has reported this?
And no letting it's country's people know what ttip is?
No reports out on how Denmark and holland won't a new vote?
No reports on the rapes of German woman by immigrants?
No report on the 5 presidents?
Giving main headlines in papers saying 50/50 but there own polls say upwards of 65 percent won't out up to now 82 percent?

Looks like things are quite controlled from all angles. The one person the tories are scared of is farage because they just tried to stop the Tory MPs funding the campaign he is fronting. I think it's because he knows quite a lot and public knows he is aware because he works in Brussels the Remainians know this and use it against him.

But Obama saying what he said with the hollow threats about Russia. on question time all paints a picture of what these persons want. We need to rebel and by letting Germany govern us we lost ww2, we cannot let this happen. We need to look at what they want.

Merckel is bringing out a law that stops people speaking out at politicians and people we did not choose or did not vote in. And will not be able to argue or kick them out of there seat. What benefits have been achieved from Europe it's only been the best part of 40 years apart from rot our sovereignty and make our country broke .

And pretend the hard working third world country's peoples hard work was that of Europeans, blatant joke. And any argument about how much is paid. At the end of the day we pay in then get vouchers back for less than we paid and get told we're to pay them.

Europe gives apparently 3 million jobs for uk but here is the joke; The bent figures of EU people hear is 3.7 million and everyone knows there is a lot more so EU has short handed the jobs all of witch has been stolen from uk people.
But Obama unbelievable!

{Ed033's Note - great points southampton87, all we can hope for is that the worse it gets, the more people 'wake up'.
southampton87
23 Apr 2016 04:31:32
Cheers ed
All we can do is hope you are right.
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jimmyjones
23 Apr 2016 12:02:11
Just how desperate are the ruling classes across the planet getting, now that it's pretty obvious that the UK is almost on the verge of leaving the sham that is the eu, for a lame us president to as good as threaten the public with the fire and brimstone of no trade, a weakening of the "special friendship" etc. just makes me realise that, as hopefully' more and more people wake up to this pc, liberal, b's that's being pushed by the elite, the more they really start to show their true faces, look at what's happening in the states to Trump supporters, and look at the parallels with what's happening here and in Europe with people who have woken up and seen the light, the elite are being put into the back foot a little and they are starting to run scared. we need to start trying to wake more people upto this while we seem to have a bit of momentum.
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southampton87
23 Apr 2016 13:17:08
Post like that jimmy gives hope there might still be a great britian for our next generation to grow up in
I do not won't my kids and there kids being callled and oppressed by European tyrants
And you are spot on to the comparisons u give
Anytime we can damage the elite we must take it mate or we pay the price in the long run.
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Sanogolovesbentner
23 Apr 2016 15:46:18
If there were veiled threats of the special friendship been damaged then that's another reason to vote out! Imagine out of the EU and out of the Americans pockets with one stone . Wake me up I'm dreaming.
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southampton87
23 Apr 2016 16:07:20
Even Michael Kane is in favour of exit
So is trump and the republicans
Even most of America believe uk should pull out
Even France are now asking for a uk stile referendum
And Czech Republic have also voiced the same
People like weasel dave Cameron and maggot nick Robinson and peg clegg
I trust Kane at least he makes good movies and is rich.
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Discussion #11845Talk Sense

22 Apr 2016 15:55:49
The Dutch are voting for a referendum as they are not happy about TTIP

Why TTIP should scare you
http://goo.gl/bqO3wk


Link to a UK petition for parliament to discuss the implications of TTIP here:
goo.gl/8rzJOs

 

southampton87
22 Apr 2016 17:41:37
Cheers for the link
I've signed the partition
Goes to show just how little people have been made aware
By our good old govt.
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HERBIE
22 Apr 2016 17:49:30
Signed
Number 12998.
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southampton87
22 Apr 2016 21:22:35
If any thing do a google search and check a few different ones and there is two story's floating
One is the ttip as supasub has said
And the other is becuase England are having a referendum
Look for yourselfs.
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Supasub
23 Apr 2016 00:34:17
Obama's comments today have set me off for a couple of hours. I'm a good person, I don't usually get wound up that easily but when I do its normally regarding other people's bs or injustices. What he has said today is the complete opposite of how America operates currently. And people might be sicker in by his bs. Although there are already polls going that suggest that Obama's opportunistic comments have also backfired a bit.
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southampton87
23 Apr 2016 04:33:17
That is exactly how I feel since seeing it
Basiclly said we are below EU and threatens us in front of that snake dave.
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