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Discussion #9402Talk Sense

07 Dec 2014 20:26:51
Sorry if this has already been discussed. Was just wondering what people's opinions of Russell brand are? Obviously not him as a comedian but the work he's currently doing. Personally I think he's brilliant to listen to and seems genuine

 

frankyscouser
I think brands heart in the right place and he is at the start of a journey, he is clever enough to know that if he does a david icke and tells everyone how he really feels then that's his msm days over, he is trying to use his publicty to get normal peoples struggles heard and I admire that, I think people calling him a shill is way off the mark and I think a lot of disinfo agents are all over brand to spread rumors.
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edinbhoy
I posted this a while ago, if you go to talkconspiracy 3 on the tabs top left you can search for it there.

There are only a few replies though, and actually the subject was brought up more recently (by Frankie I think) but in a different thread that I can not find now.

In my opinion he is doing a lot of good, even if just with his support of issues like the housing estate in london and his agenda against big companies. It is also never a bad thing to have someone fancy that will tear into politicians because then at least some people will listen. He is fashionable and it will be hard for MSM etc to effectively quieten him down.

I think he has the potential to help people become active in claiming back power from the government. Beyond that who knows.

Id imagine he is criticized by some who would want him to go further and attempt to wake up the masses. He flirted quickly with the 9/11 theme recently, however I think he is skeptical about coming out in favour of such beliefs because its then a weapon to be used against him, discredit his ideas etc.

I have not read his book as I am away just now but hopefully will after xmas. He is very clever, articulate and has a sense of humour so I would imagine it is good. Have you read it?
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GD
I haven't read the book. But the more I listen to him the more I want to read it. There was a poll in the s*n newspaper the other day and it's just a very blatant attempt at trying to discredit him and to get people not to listen. He's fired back at that with a video and he basically shows them for what they are. Why people read that paper is beyond me. But fair play to him he's not going away.
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Also what would you make of his sudden split from Katy Perry and his quick move back to the uk? He was doing quite well over in the U. S! Anyone think he's had a glimpse inside the inner circles and didn't like what he seen so got out?
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frankyscouser
I watched a interview with brand on newsnight (not the paxman interview)were they were quizzing him about his book and the guy wanted him to name people he hates in corporations but brand could see the way this interview was going and he highlighted local housing issues and also his local fire station getting cuts.

the interviewer was out of his depth and then brings up 9/11 to shut up brand, again brand is cute enough to highlight the relationship between the bush family and bin lardens, watch the interview, also I watched this a week or so ago and I tend to read the comments below the youtube video, bbc newsnight have disabled any comments a few weeks ago and I have just checked again and its still disabled.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqsFp0J22Hc
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Discussion #2050Talk Sense

07 Dec 2014 19:04:29
Westall '66: A Suburban UFO Mystery

http://youtu.be/yoUO6Kcu8vM

Documentary about a mass UFO sighting in Melbourne in 1966. The number of eyewitnesses runs into the hundreds, and there seems to have been a concerted effort by the government to supress the story.

Ryan.

 

frankyscouser
Interesting documentary ryan, not really heard of this case which is surprising considering it happened in the day and by a school, one thing the maker of this video could have done is looked in to what happened to the girl who fainted and never ever went back to the school, her name would have easily showed up in school records and I think he missed a trick a there, also looking into the guy who commited suicide looks like a red flag as well, good link mate.
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Discussion #5032Talk Sense

07 Dec 2014 12:02:24
{Ed033's Note - Veritas video interview with Clif High - Part 1 of 2

 

frankyscouser
Interesting interview, who is this feller and why was he hiding his identity?
{Ed033's Note - This is Clif High of the Web Bot project fame. His web site is http://halfpasthuman.com/

He was hiding his identity because he thought his family might be targeted because of the Web Bot project that was started around 1994, i think.

The Web Bots collect the language being used on blogs/forums and the theory is that a change in language being used on forums would mean you could predict events ahead of time (because the theory is that we're all 'psychic' to some degree so there would be a slight change in language we use before some large event.)

The problem with this is how to interpret the data. In theory over a long period of time, you'd get better at interpreting the data and thus get better at predicting future large events.

It appears that after government agencies found out about this web bot project, they started their own version of it.
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frankyscouser
I do not agree with everything he says on this interview but I do think we have a gift that is suppressed, the times you know the phone is going to ring, a gut feeling about something as a small example.
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Discussion #9244Talk Sense

07 Dec 2014 04:57:13
was trawling threw links tonight when I caught something I remembered in the 1980s, I was 12 or 13 and they always put on trooping the color on bbc1, its when the royals get all dressed up and pounce around on their horses.

anyway I remembered the incident involving Marcus Sarjeant who was 17 or 18 who fired blank shots at lizzy which made her horse freak out (on youtube) he was quoted he wanted to be the most famous teenager in the world. anyways never really followed up on what happened to him, he got 5 years for firing blanks yes 5 years, he done 2 and ended up in a mental hospital for a bit, then when he got out he decided to change his name.

makes you think that someone who wanted to be famous and could have earned a lot of money once he was released to suddenly vanish, my bet is he is either a basket case or he was never released, this kid was never ever going to get away with this scott free.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/06/18/the-boy-who-shot-the-queen-of-england/

 

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Discussion #9243Talk Sense

05 Dec 2014 14:00:48
this is a disturbing interview with a normal irish man in the 70s who the british army kidnapped and tortured him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MaY1uew86Y

 

TTTS
This sort of brutality was common through out the occupied counties, I myself and my then pregnant wife had the joy of been stopped by an infamous regiment on a quiet country road. Apart from the few minor bruises to myself and my wife having a gun put to her stomach with the threat to "rid the country of another feni/#n bas#*rd I genuinely feared for our lives.
We were spared further humiliation and possible injury by the arrival of several other cars to the checkpoint.
Such flash checkpoints were regular and many people had the pleasure of meeting the fine young gentlemen sent over to police a civil problem.
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frankyscouser
No doubt there were sadistic military who enjoyed that kind of stuff mate, that feller who spoke sort of said they were programmed to hate with all the propaganda in the 60s and 70s, I was going out with a girl when I was 18 and she used to babysit for this couple, the feller was in Ireland when he was in the army, he said he was a kid when he was there and petrified and that he knocked out a young 10 /11 year old who came out the entry unexpected (he did look remorseful )he said he was taught to hit first ask questions later, anyways being there fked him up, he took to the bottle, split from his partner and had nightmares all the time, he could not have a alarm clock in his bedroom as he would freak out, plus you could not wake him up, he attacked anyone who tried mum/dad/ partner, rambling on here but like the feller on the interview said the real culprits are the ones who the go ahead for this treatment but that does not excuse twisted military doing that to another human being.
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TTTS
Frankly that is just 1 story from 1 person, I could tell 20, my mates could tell 20 more. That is with n the UK. taking in the empire. It. gets scray
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frankyscouser
I have no doubt you could mate my point is its never black and white, I have a mate who was in the army in Afghanistan about ten years ago, same things happening there like in ireland back in the day, kidnappings /murders and stuff he will never ever talk about, he hates what the military are doing there and calls it a con, I will ask him to write a post about what they were ordered to do but to be honest I doubt he would, think he just wants to forget about it.
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07 Dec 2014 11:22:50
Its mostly young teenage boys brainwashed into killing machines. Look at the Americans in Vietnam too, the Russians in Afghanistan. These jihadists now in Syria. Impressionable boys minds warped with hate and given a gun. Not excuse what any of them did, but the real villains are the high ups and those who control them.
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Discussion #9411Talk Sense

05 Dec 2014 11:54:04
Hmmm, it seem that The Vatican have just found untold millions of Euros tucked behind the proverbial settee; isn't that bloody convenient?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30339699

 

Not Registered
I'm surprised he (Cardinal Pell) admitted it publicly. He will have upset a few people with that announcement.

Ryan.
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Discussion #9242Talk Sense

05 Dec 2014 00:54:36
before I go to bed I was thinking about a question I asked a few years ago (way before I seen the hitler doc) about all hero's and villains of history, I remembered I was going to pose a question something on the lines what if hitler was not like how he was portrayed in history, but I bottled out because I no how raw this subject is, the only reason I thought about that question is the people they portray as villains like Che/Chavez/Castro etc then the guys like Kissinger/churchill even thatcher to some people are lauded, should we look back and question everyone who is classed as good and bad?is Genghis khan no different from the americans that wiped out nearly all of the indians?

 

Not Registered
Funny you should mention Gengis Kahn; I was having a conversation a firend who was heaping praise upon him as the greatest military tactician of all time, a motivator as well as a freedome fighter in touch with the feelings, emotions and desires of his troops. I don't really know much about him in all honesty but it is interesting how opinions are formed and swayed.
{Ed001's Note - it also must be remembered that compared to the western powers of Genghis Khan's time, he was actually extremely merciful and less bloodthirsty. Genghis would look to avoid bloodshed. Genghis united a whole group of people, and would have been happy to settle down and build a civilization based on enlightenment and learning. He created an education system, made the people learn to read and write and looked to create a better way of life than the hardships the Mongols suffered in everyday life. He was demonised by the west because he came close to conquering them all, it is much easier to get people to fight against someone they believe is evil, than someone they believe would offer them a better life. I will leave you all to ponder on if there are any similarities there with WW2 and Hitler....

Oh and, while we are on the subject, compare that to the historical treatment of Alexander 'the Great'. A man who conquered and slaughtered many in pursuit of power. A man lauded as a great tactician who never lost a battle, yet there is plentiful evidence to show that his forces suffered badly as they went east into India, with countless hit and run raids tearing his forces apart and leading them to rebel against his leadership. There are places in the Middle East where you can still hear the stories of Alexander, not as 'the Great' but as a demon who is used to frighten children into behaving.}
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Garbo
I remember you mentioned Genghis Kahn before Frankie, so I did a bit of reading on him, I was an avid admirer of Alexander the Great as we were made study him for Classical studies is school. The similarities I found when reading about Khan reminded me a lot of Alexander, such as giving a city a chance to surrender and declare him King, if not they would be slaughtered. Both men seemed to have done this. The book about Alexander was portraying him as a great leader and good to his people, ref education etc. , great war hero who first came the idea of the full length shields for the Macedonian army which was key in all battles. Khan would change the face of horseback battles by training horses to be used to shouts and screams, lighter armory for movability. etc. Questions is, did the nick the real stories about Khan and portray them as Alexander’s good deeds?
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Geordiesteve
Ed that is what I have gleaned from reading about him that offered his prospective conquests an option to join him. Apparently he also conscripted (perhaps not great choice of words) those who he had fought against and instead of them being POWs/slaves they were treated as free men and included in his army. My friend also alluded to his relationship with his son (Joshi?) and how the changed him and how he acted in war. Sounds a fascinating character - I believe he is going to be featured in the new Netflix series about Marco Polo.
{Ed001's Note - he is an extremely fascinating character and his impact on the world is still felt today. You are correct that he would allow the conquered to join him, that is what he did so differently from his predecessors amongst the Mongol tribes. Previously defeated tribes would just be defeated tribes, he took each of them under his wing as friends and allies. Cities that opened their gates to him were treated well, unlike many contemporary leaders, whose soldiers would still sack and pillage even a city that surrendered meekly on their arrival. He enforced rigid discipline to ensure his troops followed orders, including revolutionary tactics such as faking flight, only to pick off any enemy forces that fell for the ruse.}
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frankyscouser
I was never a history buff like some of you guys so its all pretty new to me apart from the odd documentary, as a kid most people loved western movies and you were programmed to hate native Indians, they were always the bad evil ones and even in school they were classed as savages who scalped white men and raped and converted the white women, I think it was in my twenties that I found out it was a big deception, would not have a clue how many got wiped out but let's assume it was more than half as a conservative guess.

the only reason I pose this question is, should we be wary who is laundered now in alternative news and MSM?for example edd snowdon is deemed a hero by most people today but I have a gut feeling something is not right, maybe its because I look back in history and its never black or white.
{Ed001's Note - the likelihood is Snowden was an agent, but it really doesn't matter how the truth gets out surely?}
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Garbo
Just ref Ed001's comments, is the truth really the truth if they are telling you?
{Ed001's Note - it is more likely that it is the truth, but only the top of the iceberg and that they are keeping the worst bits back.}
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Discussion #5031Talk Sense

04 Dec 2014 12:50:51
{Ed033's Note - Anthony F. Sanchez author of UFO Highway talks about the 'Dulce' Base to Sean Stone on his video cast

 

frankyscouser
Interesting getting Sanchez take on dulce and the spin surrounding it, no doubt he is going to believe his contact and to be honest his version seems more credible than Phil Schneider, I find Schneider version fascinating from his dads role to Schneider's murder/suicide, in other words I would not write off Schneider's version altogether, I do think he jazzed up parts of it but I do not think he lied about everything, another thing about dulce that never really gets mentioned is the native Indians role and sovereignty around there and all over new mexico, there seems to be a coloration between sightings and Indian settlements, still kind of strange why the government have not tried to move them on from this site considering the speculation or maybe the native Indians have a role in this? good link edd.
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Not Registered
Read his book franky, UFO Highway. More info on Schneider, the "colonel x" he interviews speaks of meeting with Schneider. Good link, cheers ed.
{Ed033's Note - ok, thanks
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frankyscouser
Can you elaborate more on what colonel x said about Schneider?
{Ed033's Note - colonel x pretty much said that he realised that even though most of what Schneider said was not correct, Schneider must have been at Dulce because of certain things he did say about Dulce. Colonel x also met and spoke with Schneider after he realised Schneider must have been at Dulce.
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frankyscouser
Is there a link to what this colonel x is saying? or do you have to buy the book?
{Ed033's Note - You don't have to buy the book. The book begins with the colonel x interview then moves onto human origins as according to Sanchez, the greys were created by another group who came originally to Mars as the atmosphere was closer to what they were used to. however there was a catastrophe in the solar system that forced this group to come to Earth but they themselves had to genetically modify themselves to cope with being on Earth.

All colonel x is saying is that humans built an underground base there but during an excavation they broke into an existing grey alien base. After a fight between humans and greys, there was a semi-truce. There's obviously more than that and there are other youtube interviews with Antony F.Sanchez to get a bit more info from him.
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frankyscouser
Cheers edd will have a look sometime this weekend.
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Discussion #5030Talk Sense

04 Dec 2014 07:33:47
{Ed033's Note - Article to give another side to the Hitler escape to Argentina.

The Hitler in Argentina Myth
http://www.tomatobubble.com/hitler_argentina.html

 

Garbo
Ive seen this before, has legs
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Discussion #5029Talk Sense

03 Dec 2014 06:02:35
{Ed033's Note - Lana Lokteff of Red Ice Radio show the propaganda found within the TV show, 'Saint George'

 

frankyscouser
Man that's powerful, it makes the 70s comedy seem tame.
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I find both sides of this critique to be intolerant, not just the subject.

Ryan.
{Ed033's Note - it's not for everyone but it's a powerful video for people who are walking around feeling 'white' guilt.
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The exact same thing is going on in the UK,
If you are white British you are demonized.
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Not Registered
This is an interesting video, with interesting points, but she is a bit much. I think ryan said it best as both sides are intolerant, but were not american, and don't fully understand their issues, she seems very angry about this.
Jase
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frankyscouser
Humor can be very dark and cutting which is fine if it applies to everyone, that mexican old women was a female bernard manning and it came across as hatred not humor, as I don't watch tv that much now I am trying to think of a uk tv show that puts a negative spin on white people, only thing that comes to mind is benefit street were a high % were white.

this sort of reminds me of the a james bond movie quote.

" Siamese fighting fish, fascinating creatures. Brave but of the whole stupid. Yes they're stupid. Except for the occasional one such as we have here who let's the other two fight. While he waits. Waits until the survivor is so exhausted that he cannot defend himself, and then like SPECTRE. he strikes!"

who is the one waiting?kabul?nwo? zionist? who knows?
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Discussion #9241Talk Sense

02 Dec 2014 17:54:26
i have always found it strange how the krays were treated like some type of modern day robin hoods, I think this link shows what they were really like and why they got protected and more importantly why there image was protected.

http://ukpaedos-exposed.com/the-krays-paedophile-ring/

 

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Discussion #9687Talk Sense

02 Dec 2014 11:02:26
with the recent Mario Balotelli case (of the instagram post if you don't know). i'm just wondering, what's the difference between antisemitism and racism? reports all over the internet about it being a racist and anti semitic. isn't it the same thing? why just mention anti semitic? what about the notions about japanese, italian, mexican in the same photo?

i just can't get it over my head everytime I see this. there's always a priority to mention anti semitism in a case that involves or mentions jews. even if there are 10 other race/religion etc involved.

and please don't give me a definition, I know what it means, my question is why is there a need to mention anti semitism, when you have the word racism already?

 

Not Registered
I don't see it as a racist post, I've seen that one years ago and even shared the photo on my fb page.

but I guess i'm not mario balotelli.

still though, that question has been in my head for years, never got any answer.
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frankyscouser
Pc mad, we live in a world were its acceptable to kill and maim for resources but you get jumped on when you take the p--- out of your own race and other races.
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I watched the defamation documentary the other night, which ed033 recoended, and as far as I coul make out, some jewish people actively seek out anti Semitism, in a world where it doesn't actually exist, no doubt in my mind in line with the global agenda
jase
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Not Registered
I think it might have something to do with the fact that judaism is a religion, so to be jewish your part of a faith/religion rather than a race.
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Not Registered
So if someone shares a picture of an arab and turban with word terrorist next to it. What would that be called because I'm pretty sure it would be racist because what anti is there for islam or Christianity it seems that Judaism is the only faith that has their own word for the what they consider prejudice against their faith.
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