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Discussion #11424Talk Sense

19 Aug 2014 05:17:04
Hi I'm a new poster but regularly read this page, I just wanted to throw my opinion out they're but would not like to cause an uprising argument, my theory if it can be called that is many of you posters talk about how the elite control is and how much power they have yet most of you tend to get your information off of the internet and youtube, with the elites so called power and ability to control things don't you think they will have some sort of control over the internet I mean they're not going to allow youtube and other websites to expose them are they? Or do they think that most people will find it garbage? But it seems odd how the internet is seen as a sort of free zone where people can find out all sorts of stuff I think the saying don't believe everything you read on the internet is key here, also other media outlets would be shutdown if the elite thought they had documentaries exposing them too such a crippling extent. I will reiterate I am not insulting anyone's intelligence or beliefs but it is just my opinion, I also believe that they're is something dodgy going on but to what it is with the hierarchy/elite I don't think we will ever know. Sorry for the long post guys

 

{Ed001's Note - people believe what they read in controlled media areas, such as newspapers. Most people disbelieve what they read on the net, so there is no need to control it.}
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Of course they try to control what's out there but like Ed said 90% people believe what they read in the mainstream media so it doesn't matter too much. There are documentaries which get taken off YouTube all the time, until someone puts it back under a different name, then its deleted again. Tptb have banned certain material e. g. That documentary on diana's death, book on madelinne mccann. Then there is the suspicion that tptb have 'controlled opposition' or 'disinformation agents' who will Try to influence people online.

My tip would be to question everything and find your own version of the truth.

Harold
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Great response mort only thing I would add is, as the internet is military industrial complex hardware perhaps one of its purposes was to identify potential troublemakers and neutralise them
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If they took it down that would only fuel the conspiracy.
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Maybe 10/15 years ago the alternative media was a great source for the truth, now its a lot harder and plenty of BS, that is why I tend to stick with people from way back sadly.
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Discussion #4980Talk Sense

18 Aug 2014 13:48:39
For a long time, there was a rumour that an ET (from Venus) called Valiant Thor was at the Pentagon for 3 years attempting to get the 'powers' at the Pentagon to 'advance' all of humanity on Earth.

However, according to the rumour, Val Thor failed as the Pentagon 'powers' were only interested in military advancement. A book was written about Val Thor, called 'Stranger at the Pentagon'.

Now a short film is being released based on the book.

 

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You kindly post a video for us and you get 3 disagrees. Well thanks from me anyway.

Ryan.
{Ed033's Note - thanks Ryan. To everyone, i'm not saying this is true, but it is a conspiracy rumour
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Discussion #4979Talk Sense

18 Aug 2014 06:33:46
{Ed033's Note - Ralph Ellis radio interview about the venerated stones in history and the Ark of the Covenant

 

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Discussion #10764Talk Sense

18 Aug 2014 00:58:27
Hi eds/guys, what do you know of Andrew Basiago? Came across him while researching Tesla, found his videos interesting, if a little far fetched. Also claims he's going to run for president in 2016.
Thanks Jase

 

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Hey Jase,
In my personal opinion I think it's disinformation. As always, mixed with enough information to make it interesting.

He claims to have had access to Tesla's full work, accurately describes some of the effects one would observe from their use, but then completely ignores other effects that are far more central to the experience.
It is like falling in water for the first time ever and noticing that you feel colder, rather than realizing you are immersed in a totally different medium to air.

Additionally, he exhibits no understanding of the mechanisms that enables Tesla's devices to function as they do. He offers some generic terms as an explanation but that is not a man who understands the technology he claims to have used on multiple occasions.
How can that be excused for a man who persists to identify himself as a gifted genius and also claims to have received the best training afforded to the elite?

After 7 hours of his interviews, I have witnessed too many inconsistencies for my taste. Maybe his head has been messed with more than he realizes, who knows.
In anyway, sounds like a man reading a script, rather than a man who's seen the end of the 3 dimensional universe.
zari
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Thanks zari, to be honest whilst I was watching some of his videos I noticed he kept going back to his papers to check his notes. Not the sign of a man who has "been there and done it".
Jase
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Discussion #4978Talk Sense

17 Aug 2014 10:53:51
James Corbett on Hyping Ebola For Fear and Profit

 

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17 Aug 2014 17:26:16
just a thought.
Could pharmaceutical companies put this bug/virus out in the world, already knowing that they have a cure, then wait.
and a few months/years later we have a cure but it will cost you millions.

could they be trialing viruses?
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This is exactly what they do by the sounds of it. They withhold cures because it is all profit based. Why would they not want to make money? They are only interested in profit and if you believe they actually want to heal the sick then you are misguided unfortunately. They slowly drip feed treatments to give the illusion that we are getting better imo. I could go on but to answer your question, it's a big yes. Sad really but if you think they wouldn't just Youtube Rick simspon and that should guide your way.
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I was fortunate to attend a talk by an author who is an expert on Infectious Diseases, David Quammen.

This man spends his time following scientists into caves dripping with bat excrement with the aim of tracing the origins of the likes of SARS, MERS and Ebola. Bats, you see, are a perfect vessel for many diseases as they carry them while remaining immune.

What I took from his talk on Ebola:

1) It's origins are unknown.

With the likes of SARS, the origins can be traced to an unlikely meeting of a bat species with farmland on which pigs graze.

A Respiratory Disease outbreak incident in Malaysia started when deforestation pushed a bat species to farmland in which pigs were raised amongst fruit trees. The fruit trees kept the pigs sheltered from the Sun, provided an additional crop/income from the land, plus fallen fruit fed the pigs.

The bats moved to the farmland for the fruit, ate it, dropped excrement on the ground which the pigs then consumed via the fallen fruit. The pigs became infected, it spread from farm to farm and via the slaughter house encountered humans.

A slaughter house boss then made a trip to Hong Kong and stayed in a hotel on which each floor had a ventilation system which connected each room. Other guests became infected, left the hotel and travelled back home to their country of origin.

Scientists have not been able to tie together the path of origin for Ebola and so finding a cure is all the more difficult. Ebola outbreaks occur in remote parts of Africa, so tracing the path of infection has proved impossible to date.

2) Ebola has only once made it across borders on a commercial plane (fact, excluding the current outbreak)

Ebola strikes so quickly that it's biggest weakness is the fact that you will feel ill very swiftly and so won't be fit to make the plane journey you had planned for 12 or 24 hours from the point of infection.

While Ebola is deadly, it's also not considered a viable suspect for the inevitable pandemic that is coming at some point in this century. Despite this, media outlets need a story to sell and so will hype the dangers out of proportion, while our politicians are never without a need to induce fear and/or divert attention from something far more important.

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Discussion #4977Talk Sense

17 Aug 2014 05:10:32
Hamas firing fake missiles? because Israel controls Hamas?

 

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17 Aug 2014 12:56:10
Would that be the Hamas funded by Qatar and Iran?

The Hamas that doesn't want peace as in its founding charter it says victory is no more Israel.

The Hamas that sets up rocket launchers in schools and hospitals to provoke a response then run away.

The Hamas that were using year old pictures of dead kids from Syria and passing them off as propaganda.
{Ed033's Note - Yes, you've got it. It's difficult to see that Israel wouldn't have a 'group' that would 'attack' Israel to give Israel 'excuses'. That 'group' could be Hamas?
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17 Aug 2014 15:46:11
I think its just more likely that Hamas is one branch of the same organisation all pushing an extreme fascistic religious agenda, other branches being Hezbollah, Taliban, al aqada, isis, boko harem, al shebab, muslim brotherhood. I've probably missed others.

Maybe some of these local branches have been infiltrated by Israeli or American intelligence. But the underlying factor behind all these groups, and their agenda remains a caliphate under sharia law.
{Ed033's Note - This is not a mainstream media web site. You seem to have that condition called mainstream media-itis that so many people have.

Instead of writing articles, i give links/videos to information that gives a different perspective that's hopefully much closer to reality/truth than mainstream media.

About ISIS With Syrian Girl

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That's got to be the world's most expensive fireworks display.

Ryan.
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The Iranians have been saying that Iron Dome intercepts 8 missiles out of every 120. Even if that is true, those are not the numbers one would expect from a missile defense system.

What Ed033 says makes a lot of sense.

Why have we not been shown footage of these rockets hitting former Palestinian, Israel appropriated lands?
We all know how the establishment loves to show us manufactured video clips to shape our opinion.
How have we then not been shown a "Hamas" rocket being satellite tracked from its launch site in, what remains of, Palestine to its supposed destination in Israel?

Rockets are easy and very cheap to produce. The only difficult part is achieving high target precision with them, which relies on smooth chemical fuel burning.
I've seen children hit a target 3-km away with a rocket they made by themselves for "firework day".

By the way, does anyone have Hamas's phone number? I really want some of those invisible rockets.

Ryan, the money to build this system came from USA taxpayers. In anyway, I wouldn't worry too much about how much was spent on this farce. They'll be making it back a hundred fold by selling the system to the USA and other terrorist controlled countries.

Read the last two paragraphs, or the whole thing and then boycott Sony:

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/08/11/374934/sony-helps-israel-in-gaza-offensive/

zari
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frankyscouser
For what is worth my take on hamas is, there is no doubt there are fanatical's that want israel attacked and all it takes is funding from a money source, now it would be near impossible for hamas to have the intel or resources to check who is actually funding them, I think it is either mossad or a alley of israel that is funding hamas, they are basically giving them peas shooters that will do very little damage.
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Discussion #10763Talk Sense

16 Aug 2014 19:51:20
Klaus Dona - The Hidden History of the Human presentation Race

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWp0ewX3W94

Harold

 

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Discussion #4976Talk Sense

16 Aug 2014 19:44:28
{Ed033's Note - Ebola CDC Quarantine Map Matches Immigration/Agenda 21 Maps

 

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Discussion #10762Talk Sense

16 Aug 2014 10:42:33
Does anyone else find this ebola outbreak a vbit strange?

My understanding is that diseases with a high fatality rate and high communicable rate tend to have short outbreaks, due to most infected people dying before it can spread rapidly, so it tends to burn out fairly quickly.

But this ebola outbreak has been going on for a couple of months now and is covering a good sized area. You can argue modern travel spreads it faster. But seems odd to me.

Especially now they've announced their testing untried drugs so effectively using a region full of scared people as guinea pigs.

Makes me wonder if they've created or exacerbated a situation to get it to a point where people are scared and desperate enough to go along with being medical guinea pigs. And because its Africa no one else cares

Thoughts?

Kim Philby

 

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Yes I think it is strange, my first reaction was is this anther manufactured disease? Not based on much evidence just a gut feeling. When we first heard about it only a few hundred people were affected I believe, you'd think it would be manageable to control at that stage if TPTB really wanted it to be.

Harold
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Kim, I think your first paragraph is the answer you are looking for.

Various "humanitarian" organizations have been experimenting on the people of what we are conditioned to identify as the "third world" or "underdeveloped countries". Stories, some of which first hand accounts, mention chemical sterilization, studies on radiation poisoning, studies on new viruses, studies on gene altering viruses (some say the true purpose of chemtrails) etc. all being conducted on people without any disclosure.

Having noticed exactly what you mention in your first paragraph, this could be a study for exactly that. A high mortality, high incubation period, easily (air?) contractible version of the ebola virus.

Due to the genetic biodiversity of humans it is practically impossible to design a virus that kills everyone.
On the other hand, if rumors of interbreeding amongst the elite are to be believed, then a virus that kills that parasitic 1% should be rather easy to design.
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Discussion #9608Talk Sense

16 Aug 2014 09:45:45
Morning guys.

Just a post related to the Cliff Richard thread a bit below. I was actually told about Rolf Harris months before it come to light. I couldn't say anything due to legal reasons and revealing the source would have had huge implications on that person.
In regards to the post below asking if there was someone who was more relevant to come out. There is. I definitely can't say who this person is as they have a high court injunction in place. But when it comes out it will send the country into shock. The person is a national treasure.
Obviously, I have spoken to close people about it and they all can't beleive it. My point is, why would you take an injunction out over something that was a lie? You would let it come out and sue the pants off the publishers wouldn't you?
I'm not sure how long the injunction is in place and how it really works. If it's definitely true, can it be published without repercussions?
I think that Max Clifford probably has a little black book and would not be surprised to see him released in return of some information. He probably has judges, mp's and celebrities sweating now.

Just thought I would share this with you. Not exactly full of information, I know but encouraging to know that these people are on the ropes.

 

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16 Aug 2014 10:21:45
As someone once said publish and be damned. You just have to play your cards right. If you have nothing to hide and are innocent and so its a bonus. Its just a good game to these people.
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So do you think that cliff is one as well,

I remember reading at the time the saville and again the harris thing that there was another one a big name who was a 'national treasure' to be outed

It was being posted anonoymously on some forum I was on for the same reasons you said

Max clifford is bound to have all sorts off dirt on people.

I think this is being done as a warning to those in power to let them know that they really aren't in controll and to slap them back into line. ?
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Apparently Cliff has an injunction out for his connection to the Elm Guest House (google it if you have not heard of it)

Jonty
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I couldn't possibly comment on the Cliff Richard accusations. I haven't been told anything for sure. I've heard the same rumours as most. All I can say that if this person is exposed it would cause more ripples than Saville. Not saying this person is guilty to the degree of Saville but his profile will cause serious questions. I was very upset to hear of this person doing this and it puts an eye of suspicion on a lot of people. Put it this way, I hope my source is wrong but to take out an injunction makes me think they have something to hide.
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Yes 'kitty' used to visit Elm Guest House allegedly. There's plenty of information about it online.

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Discussion #10761Talk Sense

15 Aug 2014 19:56:27
Just watching Air Crash Investigation which they stated very briefly that in a B747-200 they use depleted Uranium as ballast! Cannot be true there has to be safer material or was it not ballast and being used for something else?

Jonty

 

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It is true Jonty, but I think only in older aircraft. Total lunacy though.

Ryan.
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Discussion #11821Talk Sense

15 Aug 2014 15:39:30
Funnily enough I was thinking the exact same thing about bale when I saw a picture of him recently. Ronaldo has Definately bulked up since being at madrid. I have suspicions about all top level leagues but Definately Spain, Italy and even Germany as I think doping is possibly more accepted in those countries for example but not spoken about. It just goes on under the surface. It's also noticeable that since guardiola left barca suddenly and the timing of the whole fuentes/Armstrong scandal that Barca's energy levels are not as high in the last season or so compared to previous. I think you will see a rapid decline in messi's level of performance as even at his young age as there are rumours now that his body is now riddled with the after effects of doping/hgh.

 

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That was my initial thought too. i'm a skinny guy and a few years ago I tried to bulk up, with protein powders/bars and lots of weights. Anyway to cut a long story short I went crazy with it all, everyday spending as much time as I could working out to try and put on mass.

After 2 years of trying (hard) I could not put on more than a stone, I was very toned, but still noticeably skinny. Anyway with my personal experience and others I have spoke to who are also naturally slim, they all find it hard to put on weight.

So I personally think that this suddenly "ripped" Bale is definitely down to illegal substances. By the way to anyone thinking of using Protein Powders my experience is that they are a waste of time. They work only while your using them and as soon as you stop, you lose it all.
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Bale has not suddenly become ripped Jase. He has been building muscle mass for a few years. A year before he left Spurs he was already looking ripped.

We all know guys in the gym who train hard, eat right and cannot add much mass. They stay slim no matter what they do.

Bale is a full time athlete, with a nutritionist who has a diet tailored to his specific needs, and a personal trainer who has him following a tailored routine. He'll be getting top physio, regular blood tests etc. In that kind of environment a natural athlete will excel.

I can't say for sure he is not juicing, but I doubt it pal.

Ryan.
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Practically, all professional athletes use some form of laboratory designed performance enhancers. The "trick" is to have access to the latest ones, which cannot yet be traced and thus no one can prove they are being used.

Anyone ever looked at pre-1950s bodybuilder photographs? That is what the human body can achieve without tampering.
The hormone-cocktail pumped mountains of meat people nowadays identify as ideal/beautiful human bodies, are images designed by the establishment for the sole purpose of perpetuating human insecurities.
They are not meant to be emulated as they cannot be emulated, without those same hormone-cocktails.

It's a loosing battle between what we are told we should want to be and what we are. Schizophrenia always wins such battles.

One should pluck their hair, starve themselves and feel guilty about eating, paint their faces with poisons, destroy their spine with silly shoes, fixate on transforming their energy into mass, always lower their energy's frequencies through ejaculation etc.

The woman in the red dress is leading all astray.
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