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Discussion #9172Talk Sense

14 Jul 2014 07:16:41
i have had the documentary by bill Maloney of pie and mash films saved on my YouTube account for a good while called "sun sea and Satan" and is what struck me is the place itself is the place it was filmed in jersey, I have never been there but it looks a very strange place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq6lJsBz9UY

 

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Discussion #10733Talk Sense

13 Jul 2014 18:24:20
How come the 'elite' don't just create the second coming of Christ? I mean they have all this secret tech that can project, visit distant planets and even fight of pesky space aliens. But the one thing I hear, read and watch is that they want a world police and world government. Surely by creating the resurrection of Christ u would have a good 90% of the world population under instant control. And it would be simple for them to wipe out the other 10% giving them complete and utter control of the earth. This would enable them to control the population and so on and so forth.

AP

 

{Ed033's Note - 90% of the world population aren't christians, and only the fundamentalist christians in America, imo would believe anything like that. It probably wouldn't take long to figure out it was fake.

Apparently there are 2 groups (maybe there's more) that are claiming the 2nd coming is here and living as part of their group.

One of the jesus' looks like the english/american version with blue eyes and light brown hair, the other one looks bronze and has darker hair and a beard and looks more middle eastern like (as you might expect)
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Yes 90% aren't Christian, but I would bargain around 90% of the population would stand up and take heed if such an event was to take place. I just feel as if that would be ideal for these to take control if the world % in the matter of weeks.

AP
{Ed001's Note - why would they if they didn't believe in it? There have been umpteen claims of the second coming, none have managed to make any real headway. How do you know they weren't all set up by unseen powers to do exactly what you are suggesting?}
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13 Jul 2014 21:22:38
30% of the world's population is christian - so where are you getting 90% of the world aren't christian?
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Well, I know of people claiming to be Jesus and what not. But if this elite is as powerful as people make them out to be on this site, like weather manipulation, hologram projecting, plasma beams. Then they could portray him as a vengeful man, turn the sky red, make tsunamis, earthquakes and volcanos all go off at once. That is where the 90% figure comes into play, I'm pretty sure non Christians wouldn't stay non Christians for very long.

AP
{Ed001's Note - I don't see why they would believe it was anything to do with one man? Even in the bible they never claimed to have made believers out of the Egyptians, for instance. Imo, this is just idiotic to suggest that such a large percentage of the population would give up their own beliefs for any thing. Not one of the religions has ever provided any proof of its existence, it hasn't hindered them. So why would a different one showing manufactured proof make them change their beliefs? They would come up with theories such as their god was trying to test them etc, like they do every time something tests their faith.}
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Maybe a couple of hundred years ago the population might have believed the second coming of Christ, I doubt it would work now, maybe your serious religious cults would swallow it.
{Ed001's Note - only the Christian ones. People follow religion through blind faith, so nothing you show them will change that.}
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Discussion #4958Talk Sense

13 Jul 2014 16:40:51
{Ed033's Note - Presentation on ancient Neanderthal and Denisovan dna by Dr. Svante Paabo, director of the Department of Genetics at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology

 

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Discussion #4957Talk Sense

13 Jul 2014 14:27:48
{Ed033's Note - David Icke's take on the ISIS group and World War III

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frankyscouser
Good link edd,
{Ed033's Note - thanks. David Icke makes sense about the new ISIS group that came from nowhere.
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Ed033 what is your thinking on Albert Pike using the word Nazi in his letter? Do you think it casts doubt on the authenticity of the letter since that word wasn't in use until several decades later?

Ryan.
{Ed033's Note - Either back in his day, his 'group' used the word "Nazism" to mean something or more likely, all or part of the letter is fake. Why would he be privy to such accurate info on the first 2 world wars.

As they love prophesy so much, what some small group of them seems to do is either take an obscure piece of text that could mean anything and then they translate it, into what they want and then as they all love prophesy so much, they all band together to try to make the translation into reality. (Nostradamus as an example)

or

some small group of them writes something as prophesy after it happened, but have also written on the same document, something they want to happen, and then as they all love prophesy so much, they all band together to try to make the part that hasn't happened yet, happen. (Pope List as an example)
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frankyscouser
Certainly does.
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Thanks for the answer Ed033. The David Icke interview is excellent. The best explanation I have heard so far by a mile.

I didn't know Aldous Huxley taught George Orwell french.

Ryan.
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Discussion #9170Talk Sense

13 Jul 2014 11:40:21
a lot of topics were talk about here make you question the human race but the amount of demonstrations around the world for Gaza fills you with hope.

 

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13 Jul 2014 13:55:25
I don't think they really care about public opinion

The solution is simple but as both sides are inflexible it won't happen.

Kim Philby
{Ed033's Note - Larken Rose explains why demonstrations or protests won't make any difference

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Watching 'mainstream' media makes me feel sorry of the Palestinians in gaza. There certainly is a lot more sympathy for them than the Israelis. But thankfully I don't fall for the horrible terrorist groups hamas's propaganda. As for these world protests, why isn't there world condemnation and world protests over the butchering in Syria and Iraq? Is it because there is no Jewish involvement?

AP
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frankyscouser
The angle I was coming from is they are not brainwashed by mainstream medias version in the USA and UK in fact all over the world, they have found other sources and made there feelings known which can only be a good thing, I agree protests are not going to stop bombs being fired on innocent people but at the same time protests must help or there would not be any need for propaganda.
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Discussion #10732Talk Sense

12 Jul 2014 21:14:22
Hi guys,

Has anyone any info on these e cigarettes the ones with the liquid refills they seem to good to be true so I'm a bit sceptical any info at all would be much appreciated.

 

frankyscouser
Can you be more specific mate?
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Discussion #9169Talk Sense

12 Jul 2014 08:53:08
stephen fry and whoever is right about the government surveillance, the thing about this new being passed by all parties is the timing and speed of it, no doubt things will unravel when they charge a couple of keyboard activist then claim the averted a war on terror threat then stick them in prison, also proves another thing they are all as bad as each other, lab/con/libs.

 

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There aren't enough people in the mainstream media like Stephen Fry who are willing to stick their head above the parapet.

Ryan.
{Ed033's Note - We've had over 300 years of political parties but only relatively few people about have ever realised, it doesn't matter who you vote for, the people controlling the government remain in power.
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HERBIE
Good on him and anyone else who can make there voice be heard.
Should be more like him.
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Discussion #10731Talk Sense

11 Jul 2014 19:27:16
Hey all,

I'm originally from the Arsenal page lol, but I wanted to know what your opinions were on Alex Jones and David Icke.

I have been listening to Info Wars off and on for a little while now, and I am familiar with some of Icke's material, but I'm really having a hard time making my mind up about whether these guys are genuine or if they are fear mongers working for the elite.

Curious to know what you guys think,

Peace,
Trinidad-Gooner

 

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Icke actually knows his stuff - predicted the Westminster and entertainment Paedophile ring a long time ago, amongst other things.

As for Jones - grade A nutjob who is exploiting people's genuine concerns. His whole thing is an act - unlike Icke who gave up a very comfortable living with the BBC etc to be ridiculed in order to expose the truth

JDog
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Hey JDog,

You really think Alex Jones is a complete act? Don't get me wrong, I've thought the same thing too but I'm not 100% sure. To me, he comes off as a caring good-hearted guy, if he really is a fraud then it has to be one of the biggest frauds of recent history right?

Trinidad-Gooner
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I like Icke, I don't agree with everything he says, but he makes a lot of sense. From time to time I think he might just be a brilliant con artist, because the man is brilliant.

But Jones is a tough one, he seems to care and I want to believe him, but I can't determine which side he's on.

Trinidad-Gooner
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frankyscouser
I like both icke and Jones for different reasons, jones over the top attitude and ickes calm collective information, people forget Jones was one of the first guys who criticized his government about waco and made a great documentary as well, no doubt the more popular he has got the more extrovert he becomes but on the whole I think he has good intentions like David icke , I do not believe everything they say but if there is a choice between mainstream media and jones/icke well let's just say I would turn my tv off.
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Thanks franky,

I agree 100% that if it was between the mainstream media and jones/ icke, it's not even a question who I would choose to listen to.

But it seems that even on a site like this one, opinions are divided on the topic.

If any of the Eds have anything to add that would be awesome too.

Trinidad-Gooner
{Ed001's Note - I am not convinced by Jones, personally. I don't trust him, or Jesse Ventura. It is too much of a business to them and I am not convinced either are that worried about whether it is disinformation or information they are spreading, so long as they get cash in. I don't have a problem with someone making a living out of it what they do, it is good that they can, it just seems to be that both are just in it for that reason first and foremost. Whereas Icke I think actually believes what he says. Though I am sure he does make a living too. I am not sure I believe what he is saying, but I do think he does and that is important.}
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Discussion #9168Talk Sense

11 Jul 2014 15:26:36
poll question about the falklands is a tricky ones as I never heard of the black oil substance until you gave the link edd, looking back when the war broke out (i was 12/13 I think) it was out the blue, it came from nowhere but looking back thatcherism was at a low, she was miles behind labour in the polls and this war gave her time the same could be said about the Argentina dictator (cant remember his name) and they were in a far worse state then us, so it suited both of them to go to war, now edd if we had a notable armada there since the 80s I know they sent a fleet out last year if I remember rightly but on the whole its been relatively quiet so unless there is new links whistleblowers I will say no.

 

{Ed001's Note - she was never going to let the Argies take it, Dennis owned half the Falklands!}
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11 Jul 2014 18:18:00
Cant say about any alien involvement but at the time it was quite a surprise. We were compiling reports on the British political situation, Thatchers popularity, likely outcome of the upcoming election, likely labour policies and an assessment of Foot. Then came the Falklands. Straight away we realised the outcome of next election assuming a British military victory. Its no surprise that years later they publicly announce oil. Not sure about the alien stuff.

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11 Jul 2014 21:07:32
Sorry I know this is off topic, but is it true that Michael Foot was a Soviet agent? I saw KP's response on the same question about allegations of Harold Wilson being a soviet agent.

Regards the dodgy oil thing, its really weird especially given the stuff in the Prometheus film, almost felt like they were setting the scene for something.

Mort
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From being ex-Navy diver, I know for a fact that the Falklands War was faught over a secret alien submersible base that was harvesting the 'black goo'.
{Ed033's Note - The below video interview with David Griffin is about a link between ETs, 'black goo oil' and the Falklands War is extraordinary and takes a while to get going and you need to ideally watch all 4 parts



If you watch Part Four of the ET Elements of The Falklands War video about the intelligent nano black goo oil shown in the prometheus film, being drilled for that leads to the 2010 Gulf of Mexico disaster, then there is a reference in the video to a Nexus magazine article about alleged French embassy intelligence reports on the international activity around the 2010 Gulf of Mexico disaster site. A very fascinating read. Click Here to download this Nexus magazine article in pdf format



Bases 17 - ET Connection with the Falklands War Parts 1 and 2 of 4




Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsEsMTHDHC0



Part 4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lz-lFoCTfY

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12 Jul 2014 19:57:12
You might think that, I couldn't possibly comment.

Kim Philby
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Discussion #9167Talk Sense

10 Jul 2014 18:32:00
look at the connections in this (web site link below), you really could not make it up, from new spy laws being passed to pedo and mossad, some stuff that is new to me.

http://tinyurl.com/lp63ogj

 

frankyscouser
That link I gave above made me think about who really represents me/ us,
in the Jewish chronicles it states we have 24 mps in the house of commons, no great shakes you think as there are 650 seats but as there are only 280,000 Jewish UK people living here, which means they (Zionist) are eight times over represented in UK Parliament.

like in the link above join the dots.

http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2010/05/22/jews-are-8-times-over-represented-in-uk-parliament/
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11 Jul 2014 18:27:01
You can also say they are over represented in the medical, legal and financial professions. But that's a dangerous road as someone else used that stick.
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Discussion #10730Talk Sense

10 Jul 2014 15:36:12
Now the police and government agencies have the power (as if they don't do it anyway) to inspect our phone and internet usage. I remember this being discussed after Edward Snowdon blew the whistle but seriously how long until we are under martial law? These laws are a positive step as we still don't have a CCTV camera for less than every inch in this country and we shouldn't expect to not be treated as common criminals within our own home. This government is a f**king joke and needs to start increasing punishments on offenders instead of vindicating the innocent. All of these individuals who want to go and engage in wars abroad should be allowed to but warned that if they do they will no longer be permitted in the UK. We need somebody to stand up for our rights and freedom but who could do that without MI6 turning up with a suitcase.
Scouse_Pride

 

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