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15 Feb 2014 15:54Discussion #2007Talk Sense

15 Feb 2014 15:59:05
Short satirical play entitled The Banker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peX4dBEF0Vg
zari

Not Registered16 Feb 2014 18:02

Have seen it before zari, and its a very sad truth. Only strengthens the argument of the system is evil.

Melbourne CFC

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Not Registered17 Feb 2014 08:31

I don't think the establishment is evil Melbourne CFC. I think they are insecure.
Rather than observing and imitating the creator who through increased complexity, variety and frequency encourages the perpetual rise of consciousness, they move in the opposite direction.
They lack faith in their fellow man. Exterminating variety, captivating in overcomplexity and resonating with the lowest possible frequencies. They are terrified of loosing the reigns of humanity's chariot to those they do not deem fit to be pioneers. As always, that which is feared comes to be.
zari

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13 Feb 2014 23:52Discussion #2006Talk Sense

13 Feb 2014 19:20:15
I found this article interesting, especially the DARPA tests and Lockheed Martin's self-guiding bullets.
Look out for laser-tags if you're an active demonstrator.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26158016

Not Registered15 Feb 2014 14:21

Imagine if they used that ingenuity for purposes that would benefit all of humanity.
zari

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Not Registered15 Feb 2014 21:17

Absolutely. There's no money in that though.

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Not Registered16 Feb 2014 11:00

If it's money they are after anon, I could create an unlimited liability bond as I am human and use it as collateral to issue debt securities (currency) to pay them with. I already have a printer and paper.
zari

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Not Registered16 Feb 2014 14:09

Hi zari, any chance you could elaborate further on those bonds? Thanks
RJ30

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Not Registered16 Feb 2014 23:34

It's an idea shared by Dean Clifford. Ed033 has a better grasp on the subject but I can give it a go and he'll correct me if I am wrong.

The idea is that as human beings we are created by god and are subject only to god's law.
As we are created in god's image we can also be subdivided in the holy trinity.
The holy trinity is comprised by the father/director, the son/beneficiary and the holy ghost/trustee.

The corporate government creates legal persons in our names on the day of our birth, through our live birth records. For that we get a receipt called a birth certificate.
In doing so they become the equity holders/shareholders/beneficiaries of our estates/vessels/bodies and can thus assign their employees/servants/agents as administrators/directors of the legal persons created in our names.
That means that the only role left is that of the trustee/servant/employee. When the government and its employees want us to obey their legal system, all they have to do is ask for a name and government i. d. , and then proceed to assume that we are acting in the capacity of trustee to the other party owned and copyrighted legal person. We have just proven their claim by presenting government i. d. and answering to what we think is our name but in reality is the name of a legal person (registered company).

If you demand your live birth record back, that is the same as reclaiming your property and changing your status from trustee to a legal entity, to beneficiary of a legal entity and thus a sovereign man.
In doing so the laws of man no longer apply to you, unless you engage in contract.
As humans we have unlimited potential, just as god does, and thus we can capitalize on our infiniteness by creating unlimited bonds.

The corporate government practically does the same thing without our knowledge and this is proven in that national debt is calculated as debt per capita.
We are the leverage against which governments borrow money. The projected wealth we are likely to produce in our lives is calculated in derivatives and capitalized.
I do not know the procedure for getting self issued bonds officially recognized and Dean Clifford suggests no one goes down that road unless they know what they are doing.
zari

{Ed033's Note - Dean clifford said, he got a few things wrong in the 2010 videos. The above seems close to what he said in 2010.

The trinity would be Beneficiary, Executor, Trustee.

Their corporation/system assumes people into being the Trustee position (lowest position who takes orders from Executor).

However, when you walk into a solicitors office to make a Will, they don't tell you that you're the Trustee so don't have the authority to name Beneficiaries of your Estate in your Will. No, they know you're the General Executor and Sole Beneficiary of your Estate (highest positions who gives orders to the Trustee(s))

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12 Feb 2014 22:10Discussion #2005Talk Sense

12 Feb 2014 23:01:25
Living Man Arrested for Feeding Himself from the Land

http://youtu.be/1rUPFXbADvE

See how this man defends himself from a ridiculous charge of fishing to feed himself.

Ryan.

Not Registered13 Feb 2014 11:24

Thank you for sharing Ryan.

Brilliant defense. May we all follow his example when dealing with corporate agents, corporate fiction and legalese.
Zari

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Not Registered13 Feb 2014 16:18

I've been watching a lot of these lately. This bloke is the only one to get away with the claim. All others have ended up having to pay the fines, some even have had to spend time inside. It seems quite hard to claim sovereignty

Melbourne CFC

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Not Registered13 Feb 2014 23:52

There are various terms that express the same meaning but are used in different areas of law (admiralty, criminal, business etc. ). The ideal scenario would be to familiarize ones self with all of them and use all of them when making ones case, as noone knows what area of law the public servant/public officer/government agent/government employee/public trustee posing as judge is thinking in.

Having said that, most of the people dealing with these issues advise others to never visit court, as courts are for legal persons. As an example, Dean Clifford suggests submitting relevant documents making ones claim to the proper branch of corporate government, before a case is brought against them.

It is never easy to reason with somebody when they are treating you with hostility and believe are justified in doing so.
Zari

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frankyscouser14 Feb 2014 09:52

I posted a reply to zari and everyone 1 interested in bankruptcy yesterday edd, any ideas if you received it?

{Ed002's Note - I did not see it.}

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Not Registered14 Feb 2014 11:16

Its three posts down Franky. Thanks for sharing

Melbourne CFC

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12 Feb 2014 17:17Discussion #9082Talk Sense

12 Feb 2014 18:10:22
Boozy, I and my wife declared ourselves bankrupt a few years ago, best thing we done, if you want more detailed info, go on twitter contact me @Cush42 and I will give u my email address and can take you threw what happens!

Not Registered13 Feb 2014 11:49

Hey Franky, if it is not too personal of a situation that demands privacy, could you please share your advice here?
I have some friends who have been in debt for over 30 years now, still making their payments, to no avail as the loan interest and various fees keep pilling up, simply so as to maintain their small house.
Anyones personal experience in dealing with situations like these would be greatly appreciated.
Zari

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frankyscouser13 Feb 2014 23:52

i can not speak for people who have a mortgage but imo the c.a.b is the best place for advice, that is where me and the mrs got advice, basically if you are struggling with bills credit cards/car payments/bank arrears etc etc and its over 6k you owe you can declare yourself bankrupt, you pay Â£400 pound (six years ago) pretty straight forward we went to the c.a.b gave them a list of creditors that we were in debt with and could not pay back, the c.a.b done the rest, one thing if you owe bank arrears it is advised to change banks and just get a current account with no overdraft a example the cooperative, you turn up to court and basically hand over your papers and pay the money, it can take up to six years to get your credit rating back but i personally know a person who was getting offered credit cards six months later, a tip if you have a credit card that you are arrears in, you can actually pay your mortgage costs Â£400 then you do not have to pay it back because you are bankrupt, (we sort of got a wink of the legal aid c.a.b adviser to do it/) my wife worked and was on a pretty good wage but we decided to declare ourselfs bankrupt and it was the best thing we done and it is not as scary as it sounds but seek the help of the c.a.b there is another route you can go if you do not want to go bankrupt and that is debt relief order which never really suited us, hope this helps?

http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0084-debt-relief-or-bankruptcy

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Not Registered14 Feb 2014 16:54

Thank you franky. I'll go through it and get back to you if I have any questions.
zari

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frankyscouser14 Feb 2014 22:01

No worries mate.

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red8116 Feb 2014 09:00

Frank, I can't believe you are boasting and advising people to go bankrupt. Declaring yourself bankrupt is the last resort, however it's nothing to brag about. You purchased the goods, you got yourself in debt, you pay it off. Why should someone else pay it for you. It's people like you that has got this country in financial trouble. Be warned, those that are thinking of doing this, although it comes off your credit file in six years, banks can always see this and getting a mortgage will be a nightmare. The same goes for Iva

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12 Feb 2014 17:17Discussion #2004Talk Sense

12 Feb 2014 17:49:03
Iraqi commander claiming that all weapons seized from al-Qaeda-linked militants in Iraq since 2006 are advanced Israeli-made arms.

http://www.presstv. ir/detail/2014/02/10/350126/israeli-arms-seized-from-iraqi-militants/

Zari

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11 Feb 2014 13:47Discussion #10567Talk Sense

11 Feb 2014 14:28:24
Watched a documentary last night called The Bridge, I think someone may have talked about this before but to me it looked like it was the same camera man recording all the jumps. I no this might sound silly but never ever thought jumping off the bridge could kill you NoName

Not Registered15 Feb 2014 14:21

Regarding water and its characteristics, it is interesting to note that impacting water at high speeds is similar to impacting solid concrete.
This is observed in record height dives, bullet penetration of water (smaller calibers penetrate deeper) and the fact that a lot of modern military bases are built underwater.
I imagine this is due to liquid's kinetic energy absorption capabilities and the following transformation of those energies into increased atomic electromagnetic charge, which strengthens atomic, and in extension molecular, bonds.
zari

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16 Feb 2014 17:06:35
Yes good way to kill someone, throw them from plane at right height, body reaches velocity and breaks apart on hitting water as its like hitting concrete. Favourite with those charming boys from the Kibbutz.

Do you have any data on bullet penetration? I laugh at these Hollywood films that show bullets zipping through water when in fact it causes them to tumble.

Which bases? Does this explain the triangles?

Kim Philby

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Not Registered16 Feb 2014 23:08

In regards to bullet speed being reversely analogous to water penetration you could read this:
Ballistic waves in high-speed water entry - http://www.me.utexas.edu/~longoria/research/papers/Lee1997.pdf
(I haven't read it myself though)

or watch this:
Mythbusters Bullet Proof Water -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1uaLWAZXfk

(never thought I'd be sharing mythbusters as a reliable source)

As for the underwater bases perhaps this book could prove useful:
"Underwater and Underground Bases" by Richard Sauder.
There are some videos of him on youtube but I don't know if he covers the subject of underwater bases in any of them.
What triangles are you referring to?
zari

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10 Feb 2014 13:10Discussion #2003Talk Sense

10 Feb 2014 14:03:40
One of the five olympic rings failed to open during the winter olympic opening ceremony.

The technician responsible for the failure, Borris AvdeyevÎ¿, was found dead with multiple stab wounds.
Speaking on the case the official investigator said:
"Sure there were stab wounds and bruises all over the body, but who knows what caused them. Maybe he tripped and fell on a set of knives. Right now we're ruling this an accidental death.
It's terrible when accidents like this happen. But then again, maybe Mr. Avdeyev should have thought twice before he screwed up the Olympics. Accidents tend to happen to people who betray Russia. "

Link that verifies both events and statements (don't know how reliable it is)
http://seattleweeklynews.wordpress.com/2014/02/08/man-responsible-for-olympic-ring-mishap-found-dead-in-sochi/

Even though the rings were not, as per usual, color coded, the ring that failed to open would correspond to the red ring in the usual arrangement.
http://i.stack.imgur.com/uhPsE.png

Red is the color of fire, blood and the lowest energetic center in the human body. It is associated with lower energies, danger, strength, power and war. Also passion, desire and determination.
Zari

Not Registered10 Feb 2014 14:13

The Daily Currant mentioned in the article is a satire site.
If the Seattle site wasn't a wordpress blog, I'd be more inclined to believe it, but as it is, they're not credible sources.

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10 Feb 2014 16:12:40
Red is also the colour of Revolution, world Socialism, and the communist party of the soviet union.

It would not surprise him turning up dead. What surprises me is the method used, very sloppy. Maybe mokrie dela are slipping. And I cannot see an official making a statement like that. Internally we all know such things happen.

Kim Philby

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Not Registered10 Feb 2014 17:45

Yeap you are right anon. It was a story that came from the Daily Currant and reposted everywhere. It was meant as satire but as nobody was listing the source it went unnoticed.
Zari

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Not Registered10 Feb 2014 23:42

And yet zari you were all over it. that's the kind of conspiricy mongering that puts people off, what colour was the ring and what does it signify? iv read this page for a long time and you are definitely thee worst for this,

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frankyscouser11 Feb 2014 09:22

Unnamed poster would it not be better if you made a constructive criticism on why this topic seems fake?i tend to stick to subjects I have read or watched about but will also read other peoples links on subjects I have no idea about, instead of sniping mate give your thoughts on what you do think are real conspiracies.

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10 Feb 2014 13:10Discussion #10566Talk Sense

10 Feb 2014 12:12:11
Question for Ed033, when time permits.

I know you have a pretty outstanding understanding of common law, although I think this falls under contract law.

Hypothetically, if I owed a bank money, and that bank wasn't able to regain the funds and was forced to onsell the debt, to a debt collection agency, do I legally owe the debt collector the cash. I mean I signed no contract with the debt collectors stating I would repay them any cash, and so have not accepted any responsibility to pay.

Obviously can't expect you to walk me through every detail, but any information would be greatly appreciated

Melbourne CFC

{Ed033's Note - You have it correct. When it is sold on, the alleged debt is forgiven. Therefore if a debt collection agency sends you a letter asking for money, you can ask them to please send you the contract that binds you to pay them or their 'client'. The debt collection agency will typically write to you multiple times before giving up.

Not Registered10 Feb 2014 17:45

Thanks mate. Appreciate it

Melbourne CFC

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Not Registered11 Feb 2014 06:54

Ed033, if you know of a website or somewhere I could obtain the information to deal with this matter in the best way, could you please point me in the right direction. Cheers

Melbourne CFC

{Ed033's Note - Are you after a template letter to send to a debt collector?

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frankyscouser11 Feb 2014 09:38

I am edd, got a agency after me.

{Ed033's Note - Make sure the alleged debt is not secured. It also makes it easier if you don't have a vehicle registered in the name of the alleged debtor. I'll post a template notice later

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Boozy8211 Feb 2014 22:04

I would be quite interested in this also. I stupidly got a flash car out on finance when I was going through a bad patch in my life. The repayments were extortionate, however, after years of having a mortgage on a house I was used to paying out ridiculous amounts on material things.

Without getting too deep into it, I suppose you will realise and come to your own conclusion.

I was paying a house mortgage for a number of years but got out of it by having to sell up. Finding myself with extra disposable income and having my head messed up a bit, I decided to be stupid and have a stupid material object to fill a certain void.

I realised it was ridiculous on my part paying this amount every month and decided to basically give the car back. I am now stuck with a 7k deficit that I am supposed to pay?

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frankyscouser12 Feb 2014 00:07

Ever thought of declaring yourself bankrupt mate.?

{Ed007's Note - Just a wee note to say that Ed033 is away on business just now and there are posts/questions left for him to deal with when he is online. We don't want people to think they are being ignored plus we don't want to provide duff information.}

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10 Feb 2014 00:38Discussion #9081Talk Sense

09 Feb 2014 22:33:35
cloning humans as such, the usa have admitted they are genetically modifying babies, so if they are admitting this now then they have been doing this over a quarter of a century.

http://thechangewithin.net/2014/02/07/worlds-first-genetically-modified-babies-born/

Not Registered10 Feb 2014 09:39

Reminds me of the Halo story (the game) where they (scientists) were kidnapping children and genetically altering them to turn them into super humans (Spartans) by making them have significantly increased strength and intelligence.

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Not Registered10 Feb 2014 10:38

He's already turned down three different requests to clone a child? One of his students may not be so principled if it's as easy as he says.

Ryan.

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Not Registered10 Feb 2014 11:52

10 Feb 2014 12:51:39
Mr Frankyscouser I would say for longer than that. You know of Operation Paperclip. All these super soldier films have a basis from somewhere.

Kim Philby

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Not Registered10 Feb 2014 13:51

Just checked and can't believe that Brave New World was actually written as far back as 1932. Looks like that article might have been written in 2001 btw.

Ryan.

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frankyscouser10 Feb 2014 17:53

I agree guys this has prob been done in the 1930s by the nazis.

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09 Feb 2014 21:32Discussion #12481Talk Sense

09 Feb 2014 19:43:29
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/09/state-pension-service-privatisation-dwp-plans

Scamming the majority to give to the aleady rich minority

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08 Feb 2014 20:11Discussion #2002Talk Sense

08 Feb 2014 19:06:58
A zionist explaining how they fund revolutions, manipulate and destabilize nations all in the furthering of their world domination policies.

Geneva versus Peace by Comte de Saint-Aulaire. (Read pages 78 to 85. )

http://ia701207.us.archive.org/11/items/LesDerniersJoursDesRomanof/Geneva-Versus-Peace.pdf
Zari

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07 Feb 2014 17:21Discussion #10565Talk Sense

07 Feb 2014 17:27:02
Boss that ed, sofia smallstorm picked this Sandy Hook False flag apart. Great watch & brilliantly done, thoroughly enjoyed. Will do my best to share. A good one for all the sleepers.

Cheers.
Warrior.

frankyscouser07 Feb 2014 23:44

Just watched the Sandy hook doc and have to agree with warrior, the way it came across to me was like the Truman show like the whole area was part of the event, still hard to get your head around that. very good find edd!

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