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22 Apr 2013 20:14Discussion #1922Talk Sense

22 Apr 2013 20:01:37
Sit back and relax people the future of the world is in safe hands. Work harder, fight for water, follow the way of the Corporation and you will be fine.

http://americanlivewire.com/nestle-ceo-says-water-is-food-that-should-be-privatized-not-a-human-right/

Captain Needa

Not Registered22 Apr 2013 21:38

Ahh what a find couldn't honestly believe the nerve of this guy made me sick to my stomach that's what's wrong with the world people like him Pure Greed! The general public pumps millions of pounds a year to give poor kids in Africa clean water & have seen very little progress in return then there's all these fatcats who also supposably donate huge sums of money and there's still 1000s dying everyday. I'm not saying there's not a lot of great people out there doing wonderful things and some very generous wealthy human beings donating time & money to charity but on the other hand as our countrys plummet further into recession the likes of Comic Relief & Children in need break there records every year where does it go honestly? To think that there's parents of sick kids in Britain struggling to raise money for there child's operationa they need to go to America for & we spend all that money on Maggies Funeral turns my guts what a world we live in charge the working man for water we and our children are all royally screwed for years to come.

Rise & Shine

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Not Registered22 Apr 2013 22:09

They've been draining the great lakes for years and selling it to China. Thanks for the link. Ryan.

{Ed033's Note - Draining the Great Lakes of America dry - Conspiracy Theory - Jesse Ventura
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx65EeLk4Ro

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Not Registered23 Apr 2013 09:06

Draining the great lakes dry?! Do me a favour!

Every day Thames Water creates tens of millions of litres of fresh water from sea water. which now seems overly complicated when we could just send a constant stream of oil tankers back and forth to the US to fill up on their great lake water!

Pablo

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22 Apr 2013 18:11Discussion #9867Talk Sense

22 Apr 2013 19:11:02
Does anyone think that the Boston bombings had anything to do with the aurora shootings or sandy hook?

Not Registered22 Apr 2013 20:14

Possible MK ultra style mind control (if it exists?).
Maybe post a link ed/anyone?

Supasub

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frankyscouser22 Apr 2013 20:45

Personally I do not think boston is connected to the other two events, I think the shootings at sandy hook and aurora are more to do with the second amendment on gun laws were else I think boston was more of a reminder by the elite that we all need to be protected and no doubt more liberties will be taken from us all for our own benefit of course.

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22 Apr 2013 08:41Discussion #11921Talk Sense

22 Apr 2013 05:05:44
ok guys iv got a question I no an atheist is someone that does not belive in religion or a god I myself do not belive in these things but do belive that something someware created us for purpose what I don't no so does this make me an atheist?

Not Registered22 Apr 2013 09:38

You're the same as me, you're an Agnostic Theist.

JK92

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Not Registered22 Apr 2013 09:38

I think I put Theist instead of Atheist, if so I meant Agnostic Atheist.

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Not Registered22 Apr 2013 10:08

From what you're saying, you believe something created us, so I guess that rules out atheism. What you're describing may be creationism by some people's definition, but others here may have a better explanation than me. I think a lot of people think along the same lines as you. Like most people, I used to keep the door open to the possibility of a greater power, a god if you will, whilst rejecting the doctrine of any church. It's a great comfort to believe in a deity, and letting go of that is very frightening. Sadly, and I'm not trying to provoke an argument with anyone here, I think the whole idea of god is the greatest conspiracy of them all. For thousands of years it's been the most effective way to sedate the masses. Ryan.

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Not Registered22 Apr 2013 10:44

What leads you to think we were "created"? I see no reason why such a thing should be believed with no evidence whatsoever, especially when we already know about the (very slow in our time frame) process of evolution!

Peace

Jay
Glasgow

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Not Registered22 Apr 2013 10:46

These things are always hard to define. An agnostic atheist would imply that you do not know the origins of the universe - and perhaps will never know- but doesn't think the first cause would be a god more likely natural phenomena. What you are suggesting, that although you reject religion you still feel there needs to be a deity or god to start it. basically you see it as giving purpose. that would likely make you a deist. you see that a deity/god started the universe but that is all. deists reject any kind of personal religion whereby God interacts with us individually and can interfere with natural and physical laws. Hope this helps.

Graeme

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22 Apr 2013 07:54Discussion #2131Talk Sense

22 Apr 2013 01:13:15
First time poster. too many things seem strange to me re boston 'bombings" I felt sorry for the young dzokhar and I don't know why. Now we only hear what the media want us to hear so hey it was the guy in the black hat and the guy in the white hat. From the limited searches I have done the ze9 yr old seemed to be a normal american immigrant. Could the backpack he left not been a drug deal etc? I was even speaking to my mum and she felt it didn't seem to add up. I am originally from canada but am of scottish origin moved "home" to scotland with my parents in 1999 so always distrusted the americans but still seems odd to me. Also when have u ever EVER heard of 1 of only 2 men getting away on foot in a mass gunfight with american law enforcement AND being able to stay hidden in a locked down city? Sorry for spelling and punctuation writing this on my mobile

Not Registered22 Apr 2013 08:41

And what about the third guy with the bag behind them no mention of this he had he's hat down so it was covering he's face have a look at it just a thought

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21 Apr 2013 13:41Discussion #10144Talk Sense

21 Apr 2013 12:32:25
I'm just wondering something, and I'm not asking to criticise or insult but, why do you believe half of this stuff? A lot of people on this site believe that every media outlet or form of government is controlled and lying to them, which has a bit of logic behind it. Murdoch owns an obscene amount of the media and we all know power and particularly money corrupts. So I can understand how you can believe these problems exist, however, why are you so willing to accept some of these theories which have absolutely no proof. The Illuminati at the Olympics, the Sun running out, Sandy Hook was a hoax etc.
I'm not arguing that any of these can't possibly true, but I'm asking why you are so willing to accept the theories of one man or woman who has minute evidence but so opposed to anything the Government and media say?
Probably just being the Devil's advocate but thought I'd ask.
Comrade D

Not Registered21 Apr 2013 16:53

Is there any evidence they don't, that's the real question.

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Not Registered21 Apr 2013 16:53

If you keep on reading you will see we all don't agree on everything and plenty of links to evidence, some of what is posted here can be taken tongue in cheek, however if you think the government and the media are our friends then maybe one of the Ed's can suggest a few sites that may help explain why they are not to be trusted.

By the way I never believed in the Olympics thing but that's just me.

Jonty

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Not Registered21 Apr 2013 17:26

I concur with what Jonty says, a lot of us on this site do not always agree about stuff. Maybe what we have in common is a willingness to ask questions about the world around us. I do not know enough about Illuminati to know whether they are involved with stuff like the Olympic ceremony but others do and believe so. As for the media outlets, they are not in any way there to serve or benefit us so why should they be given our complete trust? The media no longer question what is happening in our world, they just report what they are told to. It was just over 40 years ago that a real and independent media showed the brutality of the US in Vietnam. My Lai would never get reported today just as other recent atrocities are not. That media no longer exists, so sites like this, and the people who contribute to them help us to seek answers to questions that matter to us. We won't always agree but that is exactly what makes it worthwhile. I believe in aliens and will do so until proven otherwise. Others will think I am mental for doing so, that is fine by me. We are human through our genetic makeup but never forget what makes us people is our minds and the different way we each think. That individual freedom to make a decision for ourselves is one of the reasons sites like this are good, as opposed to the mass media. In the immortal words of that great sage and teacher of enlightenment "You don't need to follow anybody. You've got to think for yourselves. You're all individuals, you're all different. You've got to work it out for yourselves. "

Captain Needa

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frankyscouser21 Apr 2013 19:30

Its a good question comrade 9 (liking your name as well)my take on it is to always question what is being told to us, I rather be called a foolish person than letting the grains of sand go by and not even bothering.

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Not Registered22 Apr 2013 07:54

Captain!

I don't think you sound crazy for believing that aliens exist, and by alien I mean other life form! Not the media/Hollywood type. Not that I don't think they "couldn't" exist, simply just that we basically created a physical representation that has stuck, so when you say the word "alien" some may find it strange!
I see it as this: We live in a Galaxy where the only life we know of is on earth, from the microscopic to the bipedals like us. The complexity and variety of life truly is astounding and quite breathtaking! So of all the planets that we know of life is very rare, but I put this to anyone who believes we are alone in our vast universe. As far as we know, there are at least 100 billion galaxy's, albeit we know very little of them as the obvious hurdle of distance and stage of our technology. But surely no one could really think that we are the one in 100 billion that has life, intelligent life even. The only trouble is the distances to these other galaxy's, so we will probably never really know, if there is others out there, and even if we did did out there was, we'd never get to communicate with them as I've mentioned, the vast distances simply make it impossible (in this day and age, maybe in the next few 1000 - 1000000 years, which is a very small amount of time space wise) and I think that part is very unfortunate indeed!
So I truly believe there is a great chance of other beings or whatever you'd like to call it out there, I just think we will never really know!

Peace

Jay
Glasgow

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21 Apr 2013 09:40Discussion #9502Talk Sense

21 Apr 2013 10:35:24
Regarding the Boston bombings I do think that they acted of their own accord however the Americans knew about it all along and used it to their advantage

Not Registered21 Apr 2013 16:53

I'm sorry. where is there any spread of evidence or suggestion the knew the bombings would happen?! Yes, the FBI interviewed/were meant to interview one of the suspects years ago, but how on earth does that automatically mean the government knew the bombings were meant to happen?

J. G

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Not Registered21 Apr 2013 16:53

I think this could possibly be the case, that's my take on 9/11 also.

GBI

{Ed033's Note - You obviously haven't heard about Judy Wood PHd or her book, Where did the towers go. Unless the alleged 9/11 hijackers had control of black technology that can turn building including the steel to dust, then the alleged 9/11 hijackers did not cause what happened to happen

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frankyscouser21 Apr 2013 19:30

Gbi you remind me of a twitter follower who wants bona fide evidence wrapped up with the words the real truth, let's be straight none of us know what the real truth is but we do a bit of research from various outlets, then we look at the pros and cons of any event and what impact it makes in the future and finally we make a educated guess and give are opinion, no doubt you would have questioned the bay of tonkin incident when it happened as not being true which is your prerogative but some of us on this site like to keep a open mind.

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Not Registered22 Apr 2013 07:54

I've seen a programme where all the conspiracy theories are put to test, it has the guy from the loose change group. Every theory is put to bed. Stuff like that is enough for me, but any1 who wants to see a different event will eventually see what they want to see. As I said b4 to u franky my mind is as open as it can be espicially since the hillsborough cover up. The Boston bombers are there to be seen along with the aftermath.

GBI

{Ed033's Note - "Every theory is put to bed." That is nonsense.

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frankyscouser22 Apr 2013 08:29

Out of interest when did you realize hillsborough was a coverup?

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21 Apr 2013 08:02Discussion #10143Talk Sense

21 Apr 2013 02:36:27
Ha, you couldn't make it up, the "Boston bomber" has suffered a throat injury and may not be able to talk.

Not Registered21 Apr 2013 09:04

A convenient throat injury. So off to some military base for 'treatment' if he survives. And we'll never hear from him again. Apart from the inevitable written confession. Was so reassuring to see all the sheeple applauding in Boston. So now we all know they can lock down a city in a few hours. Land of the free yeah right. Ryan.

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20 Apr 2013 19:46Discussion #8964Talk Sense

20 Apr 2013 20:45:19
the guy who lost he's legs in the boston bomb is supposedly a war veteran who lost he's legs in afghanistan he's name is nick vogt, I have looked at both pics they do look very similar but even I found it hard to believe he could be planted.

Not Registered20 Apr 2013 20:50

Well there is some great special effects out there, enough to make Hollywood jealous. I seen a few pics and a video (not for the faint hearted) of that guy, both legs gone. As for the navy seals there, why are they in such plain sight, wearing supposed seals gear (hats, boots) and holding 'detonators'? Near enough every person in the western world has a camera, they must've knew they would get seen and captured on film?

GBI

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Not Registered20 Apr 2013 22:33

If you look at his face in the picture he looks pretty chilled out and relaxed considering his legs have just been blown off. Anything is possible with the CIA

Geordie Al

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Heskeyfenwa21 Apr 2013 09:38

Maybe they were supposed to be seen, maybe to get people used to it.

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Not Registered21 Apr 2013 13:41

Pretty sure that is shock, plus the fact he has just been at the heart of an explosion. Doubt his hearing and his sight are working properly plus the fact he would have lost a dangerous amount of blood. What do u expect him to be like?

GBI

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Not Registered23 Apr 2013 22:46

My legs have just been blown off, but there is no blood. Should I be worried? Is this normal?

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20 Apr 2013 16:32Discussion #10142Talk Sense

20 Apr 2013 15:03:11
Here's my take on this whole Boston episode. I look at all these events from the perspective of control. I'm not too interested in looking at the truth of whether the accused people are really guilty. I believe there are plenty of people out there who will address this issue. What I would like to address is this, how does one man shut down an area populated by 1 million people. Think about how much control the forces of law have exerted the past couple of days. Nobody questioned the level of control because they are told it is for their safety. Everybody without question did what they were programmed to do and stayed home, when told to do so. Then what happens? This highly dangerous 'terrorist' who supposedly is armed and dangerous is found cowering under a tarpaulin, bloodied and frightened. Found I might add by a member of the public, not the big scaremongering control machine. Now as horrible as the attacks were think about how much more independence has been freely given up by people. The streets of Boston looked like a police state all for the search for a 19 year old. With the help of the media fear has become the ultimate tool of choice to erode freedom in society.

Captain Needa

Not Registered20 Apr 2013 18:01

Great post, all they need to do now is take their weapons and say it's for their own safety and then fill the streets with soldiers, foreign or domestic.

JK92

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frankyscouser20 Apr 2013 18:01

Well said captain, boston looked like a version of martial law for 24 hours.

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Not Registered20 Apr 2013 18:01

20 Apr 2013 18:34:01
captain its human nature to be safety first. If you didn't stay in and something happened how would you feel. I agree the yanks have over reacted as usual. I also don't think its a set up. Not everything is a conspiracy. There are genuinely nutters out there win want to maim and kill. Yes the yanks lifted the lid off the box but doesn't mean their behind every single one of them. That said watching how their dancing around like persons chanting usa usa because the other one has been arrested you can see why they are so disliked as a nation.

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Not Registered20 Apr 2013 19:39

When the Americans do the USA chant it always reminds me of the Mummy when all the brainwashed people are walking through the streets chanting "Im. ho. tep".

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Not Registered20 Apr 2013 19:46

I agree with this post, my take on this was that it was an experiment to see if they could get all those people to do as they where told.

Jonty

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20 Apr 2013 12:46Discussion #10141Talk Sense

20 Apr 2013 11:03:00
If you look at the video of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev in the white cap walking around before the explosions, his bag is slung over his right shoulder, and doesn't look heavy. If they used pressure cooker bags full of nails, ball bearings and explosives, wouldn't that be heavy? But he is strolling around like there is little or no weight in the bag. Ryan.

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20 Apr 2013 09:04Discussion #10140Talk Sense

20 Apr 2013 09:54:18
What I don't get with this Boston business is they say there was a shootout at the end yet the bloke who found him goes to the boat and lifts up cover yet he doesn't kill him. neither does he kill the bloke they car jacked or himself for that matter. As some sort of extremist would. All strange

Not Registered20 Apr 2013 23:50

21 Apr 2013 00:17:40
True. I don't get how if he was engaged in a shootout at the end then how did he survive it. Just him in that boat and who knows how many swat, cops etc all firing at him.

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20 Apr 2013 08:14Discussion #2383Talk Sense

20 Apr 2013 03:03:25
I would also like to know how suspect no. 1 died? Last we saw he was prostrate on the ground and surrounded. How do you end up dead from that??

Not Registered20 Apr 2013 08:50

They had 2 or 3 different people on the ground. Precautionary arrests, the actual suspect no. 1 was caught, arrested and then later died from his wounds (unfortunately) thankfully the younger 1 has been caught, and will be in a living hell for the rest of his years. As chief Clancy wiggum would say-"where's your messiah now"

GBI

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Not Registered20 Apr 2013 09:41

Caught, arrested and then later died from his wounds? In oz we are being told he died in a shoot out with police.

Melbourne CFC

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Not Registered20 Apr 2013 09:41

Were you there GBI? "precautionary arrests" are not used when dealing with a 'terrorist bomber' who is on the run and has there faces plastered across the country's news stations. It's called the power to control the worldwide mass media eg. print, television, radio. Then all is know is what you're told.

People were initially told the older brother was arrested, naked, and taken into custody. Shortly after it was/is reported he died in a police shoot out (in Oz anyway). How does that add up mate?

Melbourne CFC
Melbourne CFC

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Not Registered21 Apr 2013 19:30

According to a poster on youtube, he shows a video of the first suspect been arrested, whilst totally naked, and put in the back of a police car without any gun shot wound or bruise of any kind. I don't know how many of you have seen the same thing!

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