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Discussion #1877Talk Sense

13 Feb 2013 13:12:44
since I am waiting for the end of the shootout with chris dorner I heard something on the radio that supasub mentioned last week I think, its not really my of interest but I found it interesting, its about the doping trial, Francisco Aguanell had been due in court in Madrid on Wednesday afternoon to back up another witness, Jesús Manzano, the former cyclist and whistleblower whose evidence has helped bring Fuentes to trial.
Fuentes, who is alleged to have worked with Spanish footballers and tennis players as well as cyclists, is accused of endangering public health by leading a doping ring which issued patients with banned substances and conducted blood transfusions. the day of the trial he had a massive heart attack, coincidence?

frankyscouse

 

I didn't know that, arsene wenger has come out recently and said that blood tests's should be conducted as only urine samples are taken generally especially I would have thought in spain and Italy where I think the doping and blood transfusion's are particularly rife. I think most of the barca, spain some of real Madrid and I think Valencia to name a few clubs have many players that have been treated by suspect doctors directly or advised by via the club. The whole think stinks. I think Barca have been at it for a while along with buying influence with fifa/uefa through payments from sandro rossell to fifa officials. It won't get looked into as Blatter loves the attention and sponsorship that comes to football via barca and Mr messi.

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This reminds me of when Owen Hargreaves was released by Manchester United he claimed they used suspect substances to bring him back to fitness and that this is what ruined his career just thaught it was interesting
Heskeyfenwa
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It will come out over the next year or so that Zidane was a massive user of the blood transfusion method. Apparently even a couple of top players now are still using it.

5times*****
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I think Hargreaves was talking about some sort of animal plasma that was injected into his knees, I don't think it was that the ruined it, the doctor described his knees as if he'd been in a bomb blast due to some sort I erosion that had occurred before he signed for united. I think doping in Italy been going on or years, even pep guardiola was caught using nandrolone but didn't even receive a ban due to some sort of error. Also players like Maldini and zlatan have seemed go have bulked up more as they've got older, by the time Maldini got to the last couple of years in his late 30's /40 he was starting to look like Arnie.
Barca were supposed to have been tested when there was suspicions but about half of the squad didn't get tested including Messi, iniesta, Xavi, Puyol, abidal, busquets, dani Alves and a few others. The list was online.

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I wouldn't have thought using animal plasma for this use would be legal or even healthy
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Discussion #1876Talk Sense

13 Feb 2013 11:27:36
believe that the 7/7 London bombings were part of a long running secret covert war, instigated and planned by US black operations groups, who set up bogus/manufactured terrorist cell networks, using muslim & other extremists to plant bombs in the UK. The result of which had nothing to do with getting our troops out of Iraq, but to force these politicians to sign away Great Britain's total sovereignty, & other powers, to the European Union, (EU) over the last 40 years.

The EU itself, actually stems from the 1946 US Marshall Plan. Some of those within the American establishment wanted Britain dragged into a one European Nation State, which is exactly what Adolf Hitler wanted.

It takes a lot to set up efficient & successful terrorist cell networks. You need; secret rich powerful backers. equally secret bank accounts, set up, through phoney company names. A regular supply of; guns, food, medical supplies, water, internal/external liaison officers, security officers, governments that allow terrorist type training bases and instructors to teach these bombers how to construct and detonate these explosives.

I am certain that we are not dealing with muslims who actually planned these bombings on 9/11 & 7/7, but, outsiders, very clever creative thinkers. After all, muslims pray 5 times a day, how on earth are they supposed to be able to conduct & plan these terrorist atrocities against us?

Of course, it was muslims who actually planted these bombs, but I believe, a black operation group, did the planning.

Terrorism in its self, never actually achieves anything. Most certainly, the intelligence services have benefited out of acts of terrorism, with more laws, rules & regulations, (including 4.2 million CCTV Cameras) that have been handed to the security forces, which in turn, has taken more of our individual freedoms & liberties away from the people.

False Flag Terrorism is very difficult to prove, however, with the total lapse of our border controls (which I also believe has been a deliberate policy to actually allow these planning & terrorist groups into our country) It has made acts of terrorism much easier for these people to murder innocent men, women & children.

I cannot believe that all this lapse in security at our borders is just an accident or a coincidence.

No amount of CCTV cameras, is going to stop someone from exploding bombs on a bus, train or on the underground.

Yours Sincerely,

Demetrius Skortou

 

Good post Demetrius agree with most things you said apart from muslims pray 5 times a day so they have no time to bomb anyone lol sorry that amused me.

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14 Feb 2013 17:45:31
the seeds of the eu lie in the first war and the germans planned mitteleuropa customs union. Some americans are quite anti english. During the war the american chief of naval operations basically head of the yank navy admiral king was very anti english and a pain to deal with at the co ordinated strategy talks because of this. I'm sure some people on here might have watched the channel five program the other week on war plan red the american plan for a war with britain. Nothing sinister in that they had plans to fight everyone britain was red, france was blue, germany black and japan orange these led to the rainbow plans on how to fight a two front war and all the arguments in the combined war talks like one variant preferred japan first another germany first and so on. I think the one they went with was rainbow six. But back to point at hand these has been for along time a strong anti british streak in us government look at the support for the ira. As for the yanks having black ops teams plan terrorist attacks its possible but you'd never be able to keep something like that for ten years something would leak. I think they were involved with some stuff.
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15 Feb 2013 12:47:44
You would be astounded if you knew what can be kept secret, and for how long, too. Ten years is not a large amount of time. pea
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Discussion #1875Talk Sense

12 Feb 2013 21:31:51
Yet another coincidence, first khakipillowslip posts something about the pope, who then resigns and then sdk posts about Chris Dorner who Is now apparently in a gun battle with Californian authorities!
LP

 

12 Feb 2013 23:29:37
I know weird isn't it! Would be a shame if something happened to thatcher and pierced organ wouldn't it! Lol
Liono 74
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Amen lino amen.

frankyscouse
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Wat are you chattin bout guys. i'm watchin the live stream, they thought they had him bout 2 hrs ago. have they Fu**, this is going on for time. nothing in common atall. You guy's better give up maths. if neones up, get the cbs live stream
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Give up maths? all we are saying he will not be allowed to live, he's knows that hence the shootout.

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Discussion #1874Talk Sense

12 Feb 2013 21:13:19
Just thought I'd say happy/merry lent to everyone, hopefully no one will be giving up this page for 40 days and 40 nights.
LP

 

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Discussion #1873Talk Sense

11 Feb 2013 14:58:27
sooooooooo,
chris dorner -

i've read that he was unfairly dismissed 5 years ago and has since, allegedly put something on facebook about declaring war with LAPD before allegedly killing 3 people.
wanted dead.
no negotiations to be considered. million dollar bounty on his head & they're using drones to find him.
what does he really know??

sdk

 

Been reading up about chris dorner no doubt when they kill him ( and they definitely will not take him alive even if he wants to surrender )they will find or claim he was on some sort of anti depressant, he reported a female training partner of kicking a mentally ill homeless man during a routine stop, which brings another question up for me, imagine your a trainee in any job and your trying to impress your partner then you do something without any all clear from your senior it begs the question how the hell are theses new cops getting trained up?i think alex jones posted something a while back that they are looking for a new breed of cop, btw I am not condoning dorner murdering innocent people far from it, but when he gets killed and he will it will be put down to a mental breakdown.

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12 Feb 2013 13:31:22
franky I think their already putting out there that's he's gone nuts. I was reading the stuff earlier thinking that this guy won't surrender. Then it clicked that's what they want people to think, their already putting the cover story out there. Mort
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Check this ooot franky. boywithgrenade.org/2013/02/07/christopher-dorners-manifesto/

Catch the game last night ;) {Ed033's Note -
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I've just seen a picture on infowars showing a truck the LAPD showered with bullets because Dorner drove a similar model. The truck had a different licence plate and was also a different colour. The truck was being driven by a 71yr old woman and her daughter. The police didn't stop the truck and ask those inside to get out they just opened fire. The old woman is in hospital after being shot in the back. He must know some serious stuff. Top post franky. Top site eds.
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Deffo mort it won't be to long before they get him as he does stand out like a sore thumb, what I find strange is he gets sacked for accusing another cop of assault, yet throughout the years even if you have killed someone the police department stick together, when rodney king was getting battered by cops there was no action, so its a bit puzzling he gets sacked because he thinks he's training partner oversteps the mark.

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Discussion #1872Talk Sense

11 Feb 2013 13:41:06
So the pope's resigning on health grounds, first papal abdication in five hundred years. Must be a serious illness as he looked in good shape at christmas. And his predecessor clung on for years.

{Ed033's Note - Leo Zagami said in his 2008 project camelot video interview with Kerry Cassidy that he was told that the next pope after Ratzinger would be a black guy.

 

There's no great mystery about this. The current Pope is first and foremost a theologian. He has previously written that he would resign if he felt he was either physically or mentally not up to the job. As for a black Pope, it would be the most obvious choice at this time for the Catholic Church. It would look to be a modern move but would essentially be also pragmatic. The Catholic church is increasing its following in Africa so it would be a good move for them.
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Why anoint a pope at 78 years old then?

frankyscouse

{Ed033's Note - St. Malachy (1049 - 1148) allegedly created a "Pope list" which was "nick names" of the next 111 popes. So the nick names must match the next pope. Ratzinger matched the "Gloria Olivae" nick name which was next on the pope list, so he had to be the Pope in 2005. It's all ritual, as you would expect from them.
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So if john is next on the list they have a load of johns at the ready?

frankyscouse

{Ed033's Note - I don't know how it works but they must choose people for pope many years ahead of time. If you type in "St. Malachy Pope List" into a search engine you can read all about it.
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Yeah I imagine who ever has the job at the time makes sure his favourites or people close to this list get placed in cardinals jobs as they beocme vacant, I was reading the list of favourites on a yahoo news article and I think 3 of them had only been made cardinal in the last decade.
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Franky,

Whoever is picked then decides on a particular name to use. This Pope picked Benedict because of his Theological interests in the power of prayer and contemplation, hence his name was in honor of Benedict of Nursia (widely regarded as the founder of monasticism in the West). John Paul based his name on the 2 previous Popes before him. For anyone interested here are my top 3 picks for a bet.

1. Scola of Milan
2. Ouellet of Canada
3. Nigeria or Ghana (either of these I can seriously see being the pope).

Ouellet because of his age and associations to Benedict should be the front runner. However, many of those who will get to vote were appointed by JP II and are the equivalent of right wing conservatives. This could mean they will go for a 'safe' choice and elect someone closer to the age Benedict was, 78.
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Discussion #1871Talk Sense

11 Feb 2013 01:31:32
anyone have any more thoughts about the Icelandic volcano eruption and ban of aeroplanes for a good while?if I remember right the skies were very clear and some senior pilot said it was very safe but the ban remained, its only that I stumbled on a youtube video that I remembered about the volcano and no follow up news about it, just eerie quiet those two weeks.

frankyscouse

 

11 Feb 2013 19:03:22
One theory was that certain people were to be kept in specific parts of the world or rather away from other parts for a potentially prolonged time. pea
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Possibly secret long distance test flights on new war plane
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Discussion #1870Talk Sense

10 Feb 2013 21:19:54
Did anyone spot this from the Guardian earlier this year?
IT's all about the millions the Vatican own in property, in the UK & how they keep it hidden that they own it and how it was funded by Mussonlini.

http://m. guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/21/vatican-secret-property-empire-mussolini

So, why do I need to give at any offertory again?

Khakipillowslip

 

And not 18 hours after I posted this, the Pope resigns. coincidence, I think not.
Khakipillowslip
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Good shout khakipillowslip.

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Discussion #1869Talk Sense

10 Feb 2013 21:06:47
Does anybody watch "a person of interest" at the start its very interesting what it says about the goverment building a machine that watches everybody.

Also

Did anybody watch "alcatraz"? the american goverment could do what's in the series?

Also I read the SAW films were based on actual crimes.

 

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Discussion #1868Talk Sense

10 Feb 2013 20:37:56
the funny thing people have been saying for years, I could eat a horse and they have haha

W

 

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Discussion #1867Talk Sense

10 Feb 2013 11:00:54
Does anybody on this site have an opinion on how the size of the population (global/domestic) plays a role in our ability to fairly control and distribute resources and wealth. If it does, then how do we ethically deal with the issue? I mean, will we ever expect to live in an honest and uncorrupted society while we (the ordinary people) have to compete and argue so hard for our proportionate share of what is produced by us within the economy. How can we continue to allow the current situation to continue, where the few take what they want, by increasing the burden on the masses from a shrinking pot. Is the human race intelligent enough to address this, without creating false wars and diseases?

Sev.

 

Even thou the size of the population is increasing I read somewhere that if the richest 5 per cent elite put there money together, everyone in the world could live a comfortable life, to me we will always live in a corrupt society, its always gone on and will always go on, to me the question is we all know its unfair but we moan about it then end up still paying them these corrupt taxes but when do we say NO,?ENOUGH IS ENOUGH? a bit like a bully at school giving a kid a smack every day which he accepts because he think he can not stand up to him, then the days comes in he's head enough is enough, hopefully that day will come soon my friends.

frankyscouse
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How about the Labour party in Britain adopting a policy where everything in a dead persons estate over the value of half a million pounds, including lands and estates be returned to the exchequer. The funds created to be used for social projects like education (vocational apprenticeships for non-academic youngsters). Could the recent tax avoidance hearings be used as a platform to build from.

Sev. {Ed001's Note - is that per claimant or just in total half a million? Only spreading it between a lot of descendants would spread it out too, but still allow a parent to help their kids.}
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Labour/conservatives/liberal makes no difference, what we need is a independent who can grab the peoples imagination, to me it has to be a public figurehead, a bit like Jesse ventura in the usa, hopefully ventura will run for election in 2015 {i think}but like he said he needs the public behind him or its not worth it, I am trying to think of a equivalent figurehead from this country any ideas?

frankyscouse {Ed001's Note - is this your way of hinting franky? Not sure I have the time to stand, but I will consider it for you.....}
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Scratched you off my list edd now now bk to the drawing board.

frankyscouse {Ed001's Note - sorry mate, I know I would have been first choice, but I am sure you can find someone else.}
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I need help for this one it has to be a man or woman of the people iconic intelligent top 3 suggestions anyone? i will give my top 3 later on tonight, let's see if were all on the same page. this is open to you edds as well.

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Discussion #1866Talk Sense

10 Feb 2013 08:55:24
eds and others do you think the horse meat scandal in food in ireland was a madia cover story so the goverment could dothe bonds deal with europe and banks and it would not seem so bad for the irish people
pat the baker

 

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