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Discussion #1468Talk Sense

14 Sep 2012 12:45:31
Heard the other day that the curiosity rover has discovered there is lots of water , liquid water under the surface of mars . What do you guys think the realistic chances are of this being the case and if so life existing.
If this turns out to be true do you think the media will be allowed to cover it and give the public the real facts ?

Only asking because I've noticed that the news coverage on the rover has gone quiet which is strange considering it's the most advanced piece of equipment ever , or something like that anyway lol

 

I think anything to do with NASA is a bit suspect, I mean put a TWO megapixel camera on board FFS, my nokia phone has 3.2 and thats an antique
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There is life on other planets IMO. The universe is too vast and varied for there not to be. I don't think it will be too long before this is proved right.
I also think that we should be digging parts up to see if there are any alien corpses. I know that sounds a bit silly but I honestly think there is something to be found.

Aaron
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I'm sure there's a valid scientific reason behind it, but why did they land the Rover in a crater? I mean if it's an impact crater it's not necessarily an accurate reflection of of Martian landscape and geology.

They should have put it down right in the middle of Cydonia, next to that massive face

Joe
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There is nothing unusual about liquid being found on any planet, different gasses have different temps at which they freeze or turn to liquid. One of saturns moons has water, but its made of methane which has a much, much lower temp range than our h20 and different liquids are on other planets which are other gasses that are in their liquid state, just saying before anyone gets their universal studios limited edition ET nickers in a twist :)

Matt_RFC
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A planet with gold rivers would be a good find aii
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Discussion #1467Talk Sense

14 Sep 2012 10:21:50
hey edd wont be on for a few days ,working away in middlesbourough,do you mind if i can giver my twitter account out?
if u do its cush42, cheers catch u guys soon.
frankyscouse

 

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Discussion #1466Talk Sense

13 Sep 2012 17:35:31
what do people think on the riots in the middle east regards that film some jewish american chap has come out with? So he has an agenda. Obviously a sensitive subject but some people can't handle the truth as most of what he has said is actually true. All these religions are built on dodgy ground.

 

Religions are built on dodgy ground?

Are you telling me the Prophet Mohammed DIDN'T ascend to heaven on a winged horse??
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I think that they are making a big deal out of nothing. The movie is a piece of sh*t. They look for any chance to riot but we brought this on ourselves the rebels in lybia last year were Al-Queda and they are Al-Queda right now in Syria. In the end they just like to kill Americans.
Andrew {Ed001's Note - that's just so wrong, you have no idea. Sorry mate, but you might want to try doing some research.}
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Lol at winged horse reply! reply of the week i say!
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Well it's not that i'm fully supporting the riots and protests but the people doing them actually have some kind of right (but it shouldn't escalate any higher) because it simply blasphemy to portray Prophet Mohammad in the Muslim religion and moreover to tell a story about his life that's just intolerable to them. Take it from this perspective, its like Muslims doing a movie on Jesus Christ and twisting the tale, am sure many will protest and ban the film. Just don't judge everything by what you hear or read in the media. I'm from Lebanon and am non-Muslim but one of my Muslim friends showed me parts of the movie produced that got leaked and I have to say as a human it is unacceptable to display any kind of religion "character" this way because no one actually knows what took place and the events the folded we all rely on scripts and holy books.
We're living in a world where religion now is a tool and a way to live your life not like before where it was about faith and belief and strong bond between followers, it's just a way to divide and conquer. Personally I think this film fiasco is just happening do de-stabalize the region even more, the west's plan was to get rid of the Syrian President then Hezbollah so that then they turn to Iran but now their plans are failing so expect more fiascoes to occur like this.
Cheers J.
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Guy wasn't Jewish he's actually a Coptic Christian
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Discussion #1465Talk Sense

13 Sep 2012 16:38:45
not a conspiracy but i know a few on here are into the zoology stuff so have they seen the new species of monkey discovered in africa? An owl faced monkey i think they called it.

 

Yes mate, I've seen that lad!

My thoughts are:

1) He looks really chilled

2) It's great to see there are still large(ish) unknown animals being discovered even today! I think at least half of the thousands of 'cryptids' worldwide can be explained as a combination of a real animal unknown to science, and slight exaggerations from native tribes!

RED_SKY
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It is called an owl faced monkey
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Discussion #1464Talk Sense

13 Sep 2012 10:54:22
was in a bit of shock yesterday,i always know it was a coverup but never knew half the people could have been saved,that really threw me the blood checks on kids that were barely cold made me feel physically sick,the key

1 questions how high does the coverup go? ?

my belief is the very top,south Yorkshire police were rightly named and shamed,everyone forgets merseyside head chief of police was called in and another region of police forces(cant remember ) so three police forces all in cahoots at the highest level , by the way i am not having a go at the normal coppers on the street here,for three forces to collude like it did,the government at that time HAD to be aware what was going on,how convenient that some of minutes shredded between head of police and thatcher plus no minutes were taken when she was briefed verbally about what happened,the same forces that backed thatcher up with there disgusting treatment of the miners.

2 why has it took it so long for the truth to come out?

quite simply i think they thought it would blow over,when the families began fighting and gaining more support not just from Liverpool but everyone from around the country and worldwide the powers that be knew eventually it would come out and dragged it out a painful 23 years so the main men and women in charge of the coverup would either be dead or very very old and might not be brought to justice,my only fear now is it is going to take at least another year to find out who were involved.
frankyscouse {Ed001's Note - the 3rd police force was West Midlands, they were already exposed as having framed numerous people before being asked to help cover up South Yorkshire Police's role.}

 

Another question should also be What members of Thatchers goverment at the time were also involved?
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Ye i thought it was a bit underwelming that cameron came out and apologised that means nothing! the people incharge at the time are those who should be up apologising! ( my spellings terrible i know)
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Here's a question boys. Cameron's apology. Surely he must've been aware of this shambles when he was appointed prime minister??
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I doubt it they don't them them every thing, plausible denialbility.
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Discussion #1463Talk Sense

13 Sep 2012 09:13:15
Not really a conspiracy any more, but turns out the police were lying for 23 years about the hillsborough disaster, amending their statements so that the tragedy could be blamed on hooligans.

Another cover up, The people at the top set such a terrible example all around the world with their actions its no wonder they aren't trusted, and in my opinion, they shouldn't be.

Tom H {Ed001's Note - it is proof that conspiracies do exist, furthermore that they exist amongst the authorities.}

 

But every one who actually did research into it new that it was complete bs, and that we did not kill our own. My dad was born and raised in Liverpool and 3 of my sisters were born there when every I return I just throw on my Gerrard jersey and everyone in the city is my brother, the comradeship is remarkable. Scousers arent thugs its just most of the country treats us like rubbish and then they wonder why we retaliate.
Andrew
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Interesting to note that the copper in the centre of all this was also the same guy who set up the birmingham 6, so any notion that it could have been a "one off" is also out the window. They should really investigate this guys entire police record and history. How many other people have suffered because of his actions/lies?

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Discussion #1462Talk Sense

12 Sep 2012 16:32:36
Somebody posted the other day asking for examples of
any conspiracy that has been proven , well today mate you
can add Hillsborough to that list. I'm glad and releived that
for the families that the truth is finally out.
Like Franky i was also 18 , but i only had a voucher for a ticket and
got to Anfield minutes too late for my ticket.
Maybe i should feel happy and grateful today but the disgraceful
under-handed behaviour of the police , media and Thatcher government
makes my blood boil ,i 'm not looking for a witch-hunt but for the sake
of the families people now need to be brought to account.

JR

 

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Discussion #1461Talk Sense

12 Sep 2012 14:36:29
this a conspiracy site,we may not all agree with each others views, but today more than most days proves how people are being lied to,maybe the Hillsborough lies have fueled my belief in the conspiracy theories maybe it has,i was 18 at the time and had a ticket, to cut a long story short i was drunk the night before and missed my lift with mates and watched it unfold on the tv,thankfully all my mates were battered and bruised and shaken but safe ,all the lies that came out days later fueled the families and the city of Liverpool to stand against the system for the biggest conspiracy in uk history along with Sunday bloody Sunday ,now we have the truth we need the justice.
jft96 frankyscouse

 

I completely agree with you here. Its amazing how many key details have been left out of reports for the last 23 years. The police, various MPs and god knows who else lied and amended the facts to make football fans look bad, was this because of problems with hooligans in the 80s, did getting rid of standing terraces have anything to do with this?

If people are willing to lie about such a tragedy for this long, where does it stop?
Trust no-one and keep asking questions.
Tom H
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Too right frankie, hopefully people will realise now that for years we have been lied to by the that run this country. There is nothing they wont say to protect the status quo. Hopefully now we can get some justice for other families who lost loved ones in other disasters over the years.
You'll never walk alone mate!
Liono74 safc
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I was 6 years old when this happened,watching on tv,an to young to know what happened. I'm so happy the people who came back did so and for those that didn't my heart goes to them and their families. 23+ years of grief, torture and lies can finally start being put to rest. Justice is what we all wanted and now those precious 1st steps have been taken. To the 96 You'll Never Walk Alone. God bless

Aaron
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Couldn't agree more with you Franky. Well put mate.
A great day for the families, friends and all those affected by the absolute 5hite that has gone on these past 23 years.
Let's hope that those who were ultimately responsible for the lies, the deceits and cover ups amongst other things are now brought to task and punished accordingly.
NonetheWiser
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Franky well put and i liked the mention on Bloody Sunday living in N ireland I know only to well that cover ups and police force collusion goes on all the time.Now we need the people responsible brought to justice.
YNWA

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Discussion #1460Talk Sense

12 Sep 2012 13:29:37
My world has changed so much in the last ten years, I always knew from a child that something was wrong. Anyone else feel this way? and why?

 

In my life time (I'm 27) I'm not sure that much has changed in the way of society if thats what you mean. I just think that the innosense of being young you are not subjected to such things as you are as you get older. The older you get the more you see the more you learn and reality becomes more apparent.

col
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Me too- it's coming to a head and I can feel it. I'm 27 and society has changed so much! Since 2001 EVERYTHING has changed.
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I feel something is coming too. I'm also worried that I'm the modern equivalent to those weirdo's with the sandwich boards that said 'the end in near' I used to c standing on the street corner when I was a kid. Really worries me sometimes.
Unrelated. Watched a doc on you tube about roger Hayes and the BCG. Interesting. Any1 else got a take on him?
Cheers
Big ears
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Discussion #1459Talk Sense

12 Sep 2012 13:06:25
Range Rover Murders - Essex

Recently watched 'Essex Boys' and 'Rise of the Foot Soldier' angain. Having then gone onto read a little into the 'Range Rover Murders' and the story that it amy have been a set up by the Authorities to get two seperate drug gangs of the street in one fell swoop.

I'm pretty sure there will be alot of people who have a view or info on this but was wondering if you guys could fill me in on the whole story.

Cheers
col

 

Its the rettenden murders mate. Pat tate and the like. Theres another film called bound with blood i think tammar hassan is in it ...its recent and a great watch.....

Matty b
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Ther is a really good website about this lot, even about the grass, i read into this few years ago. ill try finding it BLUEBOY1
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Http://www.bernardomahoney.com/rrmurders/articles.shtml

this is bernard o'mahoney, his whole website about it. from who they were, darren nichols the 'super grass' , he was apart of the underworld essex crime with tate, rolfe & tucker also mickey steele. alot of police **** ups in alot of documents. also reciepts from nichols in belguim, hes the apparent grass whos under poice witness protection act. have a look its intresting. cheers BLUEBOY1
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Cheers BLUBOY1

I will have a look at that :)

col
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Discussion #1458Talk Sense

12 Sep 2012 11:09:19
watched Prometheus the other day, reminds me a lot of the Annunaki.

what you think ed? {Ed001's Note - i haven't seen it sorry.}

 

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Discussion #1457Talk Sense

12 Sep 2012 02:50:09
Bigfoot....huh huh huh. ? I beleave I dont care nothing will change my mind but its nice to from other people.

 

Bigshoes were dose he buy them then youl catch him huh huh huh
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In English please..

JK92
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Did you see the story in the dailymail a couple weeks ago of this guy pretending to be bigfoot on the highway jumped in front of a car with 2 teenage girls.

If there is a Bigfoot I hope we never find them as a species, all we will do is round them us and put them in zoo's. Credit to them for hiding from us for this long if they do exist.
Andrew
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