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Discussion #1360Talk Sense

17 Aug 2012 19:10:46
a question to all regulars and edds it got me thinking about the documentary i watched last night about reporters in rwanda, could anyone see ethnic cleansing in the uk if things got really bad?
frankyscouse

 

Britain has had periods of ethinic cleasing, civil uprisings and civil wars over many centuries just as we see in Africa today. From Britons and Celts at the hands of invading armies to the Welsh, Irish, Scots, Catholics, Protestants and Jews all suffering displacement, torture and genocide at the hands of the ruling classes.
We've also seen an economic cleansing the most recent started in the 1980's. I suggest we'll see more of that in the coming years until this current 'crisis' is over.
Nothing should surprise us when it comes to humanities inhumanity to their fellow man or indeed its ability for compassion and innovation.
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I know it has in the past, i mean now in a so called civilized democracy .
frankyscouse
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Given the right circumstances. i.e. A total economic collapse and the answer is yes. Immigrants would be singled out first. Then the so called 'feckless' sections of society. Religious and racial tensions could be ignited. The Daily Fail expects this scenario each day on its pages and website and is used to fuel those predjudices. If good people do nothing it will be allowed to happen.
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I don't think it will happen in the UK because you persons gave up your guns. The greatest amendment every created was the 2nd.
On another note Britain has a major problem with immigration and I dont see anything good happening in the foreseeable future.
Andrew
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Discussion #1359Talk Sense

17 Aug 2012 18:16:33
so any comments on events in russia and the death of free speech? The state of russia today is increasingly a worry. Increasingly right wing, free speech and protest more and more clamped down on.

 

It is everywhere mate, it is just more subtle in other places like over here.
huddz red
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So what do people think of the pussy riot thing?
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Right wing isnt a bad thing completely
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I liked all the mainstream news reporters today who speak the "queens english" looking uncomfortable having to repeat the word "pussy riot" lol. Theyre obviousley trying to make an example by locking them up, It would have probably been worse in China or North Korea

Matt_RFC
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And guess who got the world cup over the UK? what a joke.
Andrew
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Discussion #1358Talk Sense

17 Aug 2012 16:56:47
matt_rfc you usually talk a lot of sense but i do disagree with some of your recent comments. I don't agree with comparing britain to nazi germany. Its a more ethnically diverse society to start with and i don't see individual sections being marked out for persecution. If you think things are bad in britain you should try some places in europe, especially if your black or mixed race. I do agree with your comments regarding the jubilee and crowds of people cheering for a family of billionaires as a non monarchist myself. But the olympics was good to see hard working dedicated people who make better role models than the types of people you see on reality shows such as that essex rubbish and the rest.

I'd rather my kids try and be jessica ennis rather than charlotte off geordie shore. And Mo was a great example of what immigrants can bring to the country rather than the usual negative daily mail crap. The olympics showed what we can be because of our differences not despite them. Not very nazi germany. I agree that there are things in history that were dark. But i am not going to be embarrassed about something that happened years before i was born. I didn't do it i don't agree with it but i'm not going to be ashamed of it.

Look at the ways society has changed so much for the better. What does annoy me is how people only ever single out the english. The spanish almost exterminated a whole continent and had to import labour front africa. In a trade that yes this country profited from but a trade this country also stopped. How about the americans and how the massacred the original settlers? I could go on every major power in history has blood on its hands but also bought benefits. Its the old what did the romans do for us sketch. I'm sure people will argue back, thats your right. I'm just saying that dark deeds happen, history is full of it. The point is to prevent history repeating. Thats the mistake mankind makes largely because instead of learning the lessons their too busy trying to lay blame.

 

Good post (leave your name mate) i see both point of views ,the difference is you are intelligent enough to know things are not right.
frankyscouse
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I do like the olymics and other sprots, my sons at a decent level in football and I encourage that. What I ment was "Brand Britain is Amazing PLC" was rammed down our throats at every given oppurtunity and as long as theres soaps on the TV and a cold beer in the fridge, people lap it up as if were something special. Anyway, glad to be making people think about certain things

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Discussion #1357Talk Sense

17 Aug 2012 13:21:28
watched a great program on virgin and have to admire the reporters who go were there is unrest cant remember what it was called but it made me ill watching some scenes because i was not expecting mainstream media showing executions and a scene of a young boy about 7 getting slapped around and being told he will get one of hes hands chopped off because they think he is a sniper ,i like a few people since the internet has become available have seen some very dodgy stuff but you sort of prepare yourself for it,desensitization on mainstream outlets now is becoming the norm and i don't think its right.
frankyscouse

 

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Discussion #1356Talk Sense

16 Aug 2012 10:16:42
sorry edd i never seem to get a post on football rumours anymore so here is my code for fantasyfooty is anyone wants to join , cheers 1319534-318260.
frankyscouse

{Ed033's Note - Hi frankyscouse, football-rumours.co.uk is insanely busy atm so your ad for fantasy footy is probably not being posted

 

Cheers edd.
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Discussion #1355Talk Sense

15 Aug 2012 22:42:18
Delighted to find out today that Julian assange will be given asylum in Ecuador. Although I know he won't be able to get there without risking arrest. Anyone have any ideas as to how this is all going to end surely this stalemate won't be allowed to continue indefinitely ? Ed's ? Anyone ?

 

I read an article this morning saying the the british government threatened to enter the embassy and take him if he was not handed over . has something like this ever happened before? i would love to know how he will get out as he must really have something big that he is going to put out there !
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United states are pulling our strings,they want him at all costs and as always we do as were told

mark d
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Technically this is illegal under the Vienna convention . But it looks like Britain may actually cease to recognise equatorial embassy as an embassy therefore offering assange no protection.

Makes you think , couldn't see Britain going to such leingths to extradite any other criminal . Another case of us pandering to the USA. Ashamed of our country at times
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It's funny they want to extradite him to Sweden on rape charges ( alledged) while British prisons are full of forgien tapestry murders criminal ect , it even seems to be a policy to let them come into the country in the first place and when they commit a crime we never force them out ! but then this one guy comes along ehh if it stinks there a good chance it's a load of s##t
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That would be a breach of the vienna convention and a breach of international law!....if that happens then this country has become nazi germany
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Discussion #1354Talk Sense

15 Aug 2012 22:22:27
I've just read on a website an interesting view from someone about the ' new world order ' he has stated in fact that they are the good guys in all this and in fact they are the ones trying to take down the old world order such as the rothchilds monarchs etc. Intereting theory?

No-one likes us

 

Id like to think thats true. a world without monarchys and rothchilds etc. Hope your right. Rosco

{Ed033's Note - To the original poster, my advice is to stay clear of Ben Fulford and David Wilcock because even though both Ben Fulford and David Wilcock are decent people themselves, the info these 2 output from their "inside sources" is complete dis-info.
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There'll always be a power struggle within groups. The NWO is probably factions of the OWO that want the power for themselves. It won't matter which one is in charge, the people will still suffer.
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Discussion #1353Talk Sense

15 Aug 2012 16:08:43
Hi, i visit the site quite often & appreciate all your work eds & contributors! Learnt a lot of eye opening things on here, so thanks.

I just wanted to ask, what's the difference between Freemasons and the Illuminati? I have a common misconception about them both & often referred to them as the same thing, am I wrong?

I've skimmed some research on Freemasonry and it doesn't sound "bad" as such.

Can any posters or Eds give me some real info as some of the internet can cover up stuff, wikipedia etc.

Cheers.

 

Ist the free masons where they teach you stone work for nothing. ;-P
huddz red {Ed001's Note - it depends a lot on which side you sit anyway. The Freemasons are not all bad, in the lower orders they are pretty much just a place for doing business, similar to the golf course. They also look after those that are involved and family members. My Uncle was a member and after his death, they made sure his widow wanted for nothing. They also made sure she had people to talk to and help her through her grief, so not everything is bad about them.}
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Discussion #1352Talk Sense

15 Aug 2012 13:08:28
Ive been quite annoyed this year in general with all the flag waving morons in the jubilee and olympics etc. Whats really bugging me is that its not even a secret/conspiricy to me, its right there in your face and people are too blind to see it and I cant understand why my friends are proud to be British. You only have to look at a history book you dont even need to read it you can just look at the pictures! If the world was a playground then we/USA/Israel are the playground bullies and like a bully in the playground we take what we want and you can you can either hang around with us and give us your sweets or if you dare to go against us you will get beaten up by us or our lapdog followers. We wanted sugar / tea back in the day we beat up africans and indians, we want oil now we beat up middle easterns. We want the drugs now so we beat up afghans. It annoys me that people cant see that it doesnt take 10 years to fight a war against shoeless goat farmers when you have billions of dollars at your disposal, its just an another occupation that the morons lap up as a "War on terror". Rant over it makes me sick, I was born in England and I am ashamed of our history and current royal family, public schoolboys that sit in the house of pariment and the financail web we let the rothschilds created from here that has now gotten out of control.

Matt_RFC

 

I agree about the jubilee bit sport makes you nationalistic ,some quote i heard or read was thousands of years ago was sport introduced by the elite to take your mind off troubles ,it worked in the roman times while peasants fought for the life in the Colosseum against gladiators and it works now with sport.
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I think someone needs to chill. the majority of flag wavers are patriotic and there is nothing wrong with that, if you expect them and everyone to feel like you because of what our country has done when they may not even know or just be plain ignorant then thats up to them. by the sounds of it mate your gonna go all v for vendetta on us all. lol. i think the aim for the olympics was to remind us that yes a lot of bad things happen but good things happen too, well thats my opinion. i just think your reading a bit too mcuh into something thats not really tthere.
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Hey i was cheering for mo myself but imagine a world without sport, we would all take more notice about whats going around the world and things that effect us all, untill i would say 8 years ago i would read the sports page and nothing else, my eyes are more open now, i do not believe every conspiracy on here like i don't believe everything the mainstream media tell me as well.
frankyscouse
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I love sport too, and watching mo was great but you may be missing my point, it doesnt make up for people not realising that what you see on TV is a million miles away from the general perception the rest of the world have about this country and what Im saying is they are right. Most people here grow up so proud to be British and wave the flag but they dont know why or what they are proud of, its just a place where they happened to be born it wasnt their choice ! I mean come on even the weather's got nothing going for it, and before anyone says "oh but we are free here" erm no we are not its not a million miles from Nazi Germany if it carries on........

Matt_RFC
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To franky, Ive read that aswell It was said to be written in the protocols of the learned elders of zion something about giving people games to keep them pacified, I dont read too much into that book some people beleive it was the blueprint for modern society, Im not sure what I make of all that, but I know Henry ford wasnt impressed!

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Discussion #1351Talk Sense

15 Aug 2012 09:36:17
Julian Assange will be granted asylum which i find strange or should i be?why would any country like Ecuador grant him asylum? i don't buy the human rights story for one second,Ecuador is a violent place easy place to get murdered.
frankyscouse

 

You have fallen into the trap franky, your opinion about equador being a backward country comes from what you have seen on mainstream tv. Julian is a good friend of the president, he interviewed him on his programme on RT a few months ago I watched it. Equador is prospering due to its oil, this new president is doing a very good job at turning the country arround and not bowing to America or Obama so as you know any country that doesnt become Americas lapdog is portrayed badly in the media.

Matt_RFC
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Matt i have not done a lot of research on Ecuador to be honest ,i just assumed it is like Brazil and Mexico but i will take your word,but i will stick by my gut feeling if Assange goes public on the wiki leaks no matter what country and protection he has, there will be a accident .cheers for the heads up on Ecuador .
frankyscouse
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Assange has friends in high places as well as enemies you see. Wickileaks never got the attention it needed mainstream here for obvious reasons, or the mainstream were I feal quite selective of what they mentioned, but really in some parts of the world it was massive news and thats how world leaders have come to know him, he just gets talked about as some sort of rougue sex pest on our media channels for very obvious reasons.

Matt_RFC
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I have copied this from a news source today.
frankyscouse {Ed033's Note - Please don't copy and paste things from other websites onto this web site
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Discussion #1350Talk Sense

15 Aug 2012 00:12:42
What are people's thoughts on John lennons assassination

BIFTW

 

Unfotunatley poor chap was shot.Could not say if he died or not?..

red blancmonge
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Was it a mind control killing?

Pepperpot.
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He got murdered by a psychotic man, pure and simple.
frankyscouse
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Have you not heard? He was seemingly going to go public with the revelation that The Beatles were as manufactured an act as The Monkees, that they were not much more than a boy-band essentially, that they didn't write their own songs (many of which are rumoured to have been penned by one Theodore Adorno), and that they were but puppets being used by culture-creators to influence a whole generation of young people.
Most likely it was the CIA killed him outside the Waldorf, which is an interesting building itself..

TRP
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Why is the waldorf interesting.
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Discussion #1349Talk Sense

13 Aug 2012 20:56:03
What do you make of the bohemian grove thing ed, is there any real substance to the things that go on like the burning of child effigies and rampant homosexuality amongst all that satanic chants, also is it true that hitler used to be a member?
huddz red

{Ed033's Note - I've never been to any of these grove get together's. Alex Jones snuck in and filmed them performing a sick ritual underneath the 40foot stone Minerva Owl statue and the crowd cheering. The rumours are that they ship in loads of male prostitutes for the male attendees

 

Sounds abit iffy it's a well known place even for people who haven't awoken and reputation of the people who attend are very high ranked if Alex jones could sneak in would this not be a prime spot for opposition to try get video footage for leverage over the attendees who join I'm sure there reputation would be in disarray if anything where to escape the premises I'm thinking maybe to risky? Have I opposed a cunning plan?

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I have seen some vids about the stuff in there and what goes on, but if it is supposed to be hidden away from prying eyes then why the hell deos everyone know about it and what supposedly goes on it there? doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
huddz red
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Its were republicans jerk each other off and rub each others chests in yogurt ....lol
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Plus when alex jones interviews people who have been or are members of grove
they are all sheepish or try to change subject, just a grown up kids playground.
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Camp David (Bohemian Grove) is rumoured (well, known.. come on) to sit atop a vast underground complex, or D.U.M.B. as they are known. I wouldn't doubt it personally.
I shudder to think what kind of deeds go on in or on a place like that.
"Sneak into Bohemian Grove" YEAH RIGHT! I don't think so Alex!
The interviews are are interesting as mentioned above, when you see the reactions of alleged 'Grovers'.. keep an eye on David Gergens face here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbqbkXKvMdY

TRP
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