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Discussion #1348Talk Sense

13 Aug 2012 18:53:24
if any of this stuff on here is remotely true then why would these higher powers let anyone post or publish this stuff, im as sceptical as the next man (unless im stood next to david icke) but surely the level of their powers would have this censored {Ed001's Note - if they noticed it, for one. For two, they are far happier ridiculing it, making it seem silly, so that people disbelieve, than shutting it down and proving it true.}

 

Surely everything would be monitored though, the very mention of the word zion or conspiracy would have someone investigate it......keep seeing people jokingly say its time to get the tin foil hat on, maybe better to stop huffing products off the tin foil may be better advice {Ed001's Note - ah, there we have it, ridicule, always the refuge of those without any real argument. You are showing exactly why they don't ban it, because they can get idiots to believe it is silly and ridicule it. But banning, as I pointed out above, if you had bothered to read it, would just prove there is some truth in it.}
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Banning something always draws attention to things, people wonder what the fuss is about so go and do it instead (not that i'm advocating legalising the tin foil things you were on about.)

Whereas rubbishing the subject matter or the people behind it achieves more.

Icke, who you've already mentioned, is a good example. I grew up thinking he was a bit of a loon, even when i was reading the sort of stuff put out there by Graham Hancock, Robert Bauval and Dan Brown (yes i know but Brown always lists his source materials that he went and nicked ideas from and they are always worth a read, besides as far fetched as some of his stuff is who's to say that a lot of it is wrong?)

Coming on this site when it was first set up though gave me a proper introduction to icke and although i don't blindly swallow everything he comes out with or believe it all, he does get you thinking.

Besides if your such a sceptic then why come on a conspiracy website in the first place? You must have some doubts or questions, the door is already ajar you just need to step through it. No-one makes you believe anything on here and there is certain stuff i don't believe, but some of the stuff on here is bang on the video. Some very knowledgeable guys on here, and good to chat non football related stuff with fans from clubs i usually wouldn't bother talking with as the football gets in way.
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So i am an person for trying to inject some humour....... main ethos here would be not too follow blindly yet you have a go at me for questioning.......interesting tactic {Ed001's Note - no, you were missing the point and proving mine. You immediately jumped to ridicule, like I said, that is why it is easier to keep it going and let people like yourself ridicule it.}
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Well i am one of the people who was so distanced from conspiracy theories,i'll be honest thought it was total rubbish.Truly believed in main stream media bla bla,found this site out of curiosity due to footy rumours,but i will honestly say that i am deffo thinking differently,i hope to be enlightened a whole lot more.Cheers edd's and op's..

red blancmonge
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Are you not tired of standing on the outside looking in? if you look you will find answers but only if you look and yes some are more hidden than others but never the least they have answers, we have all took our time to find them some days, some months, some years but in the end the truth sha'll prevail and I will be there when it does

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Discussion #1347Talk Sense

13 Aug 2012 18:27:29
Sad day, Alex jones a conspiracy theorist possibly to be shut down on Youtube. You can read about it if you want on his channel. He's got to be saying something right if this is happening.
Anyone sense a worldwide dictatorship creeping up on us?

{Ed033's Note - YouTube Moves To Shut Down Alex Jones

 

Sad news if true hopefully he can open hes own webpage to get hes views across .
frankyscouse
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Sorry just listened to hes interview he will be putting new videos on hes website but obama planning to shut up everyone up with hes planned new laws, big brother is deffo watching us.
frankyscouse
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And to think Obama was hailed in certain quarters as the great Liberal saviour after GWB. Has there been any difference?
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Who is he and why is he getting banned? sorry im newish to this..

JK92
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He is a man who has had enough of the system and does all he can to tell the masses what is really going on he works hard at uncovering the truth and shares some truely intresting pieces if YouTube are closing down his videos this can only mean he is getting close if not spot on at most of the topics he speaks of.
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Discussion #1346Talk Sense

13 Aug 2012 13:40:06
im a regular poster on a football rumours page but have closely watched the conspiracy page since it launched.i enjoy it,i enjoy certain theories but some sound utterly mental.all the zion talk about the olympics seems pretty far fetched i think.im pretty sure you can attach many meanings to whatever you like,depending on your level of skepticism.the only bit i never understood was the trapeze lad setting the dummy on fire,wtf? i reckon the biggest conspiracies were,imo,the tomohawk misslie that hit the pentagon (911) the russian pass (cant remember the name),i also am a firm believer in the fact that cancer,aids etc can be cured but financially theres no gain for pharmaceutical companies.i also think that we do tend to believe far too much that the media tells us but i dont quite follow a few of the regular posters on here,i reckon that they often over analyze things (no offence meant) just an opinion!!
drumlad

{Ed033's Note - This is for anyone visiting this web site. Below is part 1 of 3 of a fantastic 3 hour presentation by Ian R. Crane which really does cover a lot of ground over the 3 hours if you have time to watch it all.

 

The burning man is from the Pink Floyd album cover 'Wish You Were Here', the title track was playing
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Cheers bud.24 hours after i posted that,i asked a guy in work and he told me that.didnt realise as im not a very big floyd fan but thanks!
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Discussion #1345Talk Sense

12 Aug 2012 21:36:21
The "newspaper" clippings on the closing ceremony sound quite cryptic
Hmmm

 

The Phoenix! I think the Phoenix has links to the nazi's and freemasonry. Also can mean a new beginning from an end.

Supasub
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The theme of the games was to inspire a generation, so it was a sort of out with the old in with the new
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The pyramid shaped lights with eyes all around the top of the stadium, the strange cone shaped hats worn by the cyclists with pet shop boys. Also at one point a pyramid was built right in the centre stage, very ritualistic feel to it. On another note the brazil bit was the best part of it i thought. J staff
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To me, I think the phoenix only represents the great fire of London and London rising from the ashes, nothing else.

PTH

{Ed033's Note - the phoenix is obvious. It's a new start, i.e. zion, a new Jerusalem
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Building a block Pyramid & Morris Dancers.. all symbolic aren't they? Illuminati symbolic isn't it?
It was a decent enough ceremony, but it made us look like we're stuck in the 60's musically.
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Discussion #1344Talk Sense

12 Aug 2012 00:55:40
Hey guys and eds, what do you guys make of the theory that the Annunaki seeded this planet creating us as a slave race long ago?
KiwiRed

 

I wouldn't look at it as an impossible theory. What is more certain, is that due to the different ethnicities on our planet, there appears to be interference at a DNA level by different alien races. If we all evolved from the same ancestors then from the beginning of mankind to now there should not be such a difference in how the human race looks.
NoneTheWiser
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Of course there will be differences, thats just basic evolution, different races evolved to survive in different climates and enviromental circumstances.
Tom
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Humans did not evolve to survive in different climates, through time there is only a loss of genetic information , leading to the skin being dark or light or somewhere in the middle, think of a photocopy , as each picture gets took the image fades- due to a slight loss of information, evolution is a fairy tale for adults , my guess is our gene pool has been tampered with by human -like races like us from other planets, solar systems , take the eye for a example of so called evolution , it had to be there from the start and working on most humans , animals , or did we all run around blind bumping into each other trying to take a pee for 1000s of years, think about it.............lfc
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That was my point Tom. Some scientist now recognise that the races are TOO different for them NOT to be genetically modified as mankind has not been around long enough for us to evolve so differently.
Either that or the human race is MUCH older than we're told.
NoneTheWiser
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Lfc.....The eye would have already evolved (in many different forms) before the first land-based animals appeared. Homo Sapiens first appeared (as far as we can tell) around 200,000 years ago and have since spread out across the globe. Natural selection/Evolution is a continuous ongoing process and the differences we see in humans from different geographical regions today is a result of these processes. Before people could easily travel the world, they would generally stay in their own countries and breed with similar people, thus propagating the genes we now associate with race.

Bill {Ed001's Note - yet that doesn't explain why there are African countries that have character traits that would normally be called Oriental. People travelled the world far more than the nonsense we get taught in schools. They were clearly trading freely between Egypt and South America in ancient times. There are many other examples of trades between areas that we are told barely interacted. Where there is trade interaction, there is almost certain (99.99999% probability) sexual interaction and breeding as well. So I fail to see your point holding water regarding propagating genes etc.}
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Discussion #1343Talk Sense

11 Aug 2012 23:15:16
Are there any good books on the cross pollination theory about the beginning of human life?
Thanks

 

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Discussion #1342Talk Sense

11 Aug 2012 20:49:15
Deadly Quakes Strike Iran ,de ja vou?
frankyscouse

 

Huh? what you mean franky (im kinda new to this)

JK92
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Japan not playin ball with the financial elite......
sdk
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Jk92 my sarcastic remark was because natural disasters seem to happen against countries opposing the western powers (USA),japan/Asia financial power gets hit by a earthquake and the tension between Iran and the western world and a earthquake hits there,could be coincidence or could be haarp?
frankyscouse
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So what about somewhere like Haiti then, sure they wasn't opposing anyone. So was that an actual "natural" disaster? Or maybe the more cynical theory is that they tested there earthquake machine?

Saying that though what about Venezuela, their president is anti American and they have oil, yet i can't think of anything happening to them. You'd think they'd sort out something on their own doorstop after all.
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Earthquakes can happen mostly anywhere but the also can be triggered and manipulated by drilling and haarp if you believe some experts,i am throwing it out there,the USA in particular are in a financial mess and owe japan/china trillions of dollars and when the earthquake happened that led to a possible nuclear explosion Asia became very unstable the same with Iran ,it has a massive army and nuclear capability's with a leader who is not the full shilling by all accounts ,anyway what i have read and watched experts have claimed the USA have had this technology for a long time and use it as a warning to other nations, as for other countries having earthquakes it is mother nature,but there is a strong opinion they deffo can be triggered.
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Discussion #1341Talk Sense

11 Aug 2012 12:21:57
love this site, so much weirdness happening out there. Looking down the last dozen topics people have posted, so random. Yet i feel that most if not all are connected. Maybe not always noticeably but connected in someway.

 

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Discussion #1340Talk Sense

11 Aug 2012 02:24:06
Hi Ed

The other day you postulated that the earth is a sort of living organism and reproduces oil. Can you tell me where you came across that please?
Just seems a very interesting concept to me i.e. if it was an organism maybe the oil is a waste or by-product of that?

NoneTheWiser

{Ed033's Note - The russians drilled much lower than any layer of life forms and found a pre-black oil substance which is a redish colour. They came to the conclusion that there is far too much oil and at a lower level for it to have come from life forms. The oil we know starts being produced deep within the earth as a redish pre oil and seeps upwards and turns into the black oil we know. This black oil lays in small pockets closer to the surface. Some people have reported that old oil fields that were considered "dry" are slowly filling back up. Look up abiotic oil on a search engine for more info.

Expanding Earth Theory
Conspiracy of Science - Earth is in fact growing

 

Thanks Ed. that's incredible.
If that theory is true it kind of throws a load of our teachings into question. How are earthquakes caused? Is the Earth expanding to the population growth? The common theory that countries are invaded/protected due to the oil. What are they really after?
NoneTheWiser

{Ed033's Note -
More on what a change in Earth size could mean according to Keith M. Hunter - interview with Richard D. Hall
http://www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=62&part=1
http://www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=62&part=2
http://www.richplanet.net/starship_main.php?ref=62&part=3
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Peak oil is a better and more rational explanation of why countries are invaded for oil. The earth is not able to replace the oil, this other theory of abiotic oil is fairly irrelevant as oil cannot be replaced in a human timeframe, read michael ruppert's peak oil analysis of oil production having already peaked recently.
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I see your point and have read a few snippets on peak oil. It doesn't make sense in the aspect that scientist have found fields filling up again with oil and stocks replenishing. I know it's been refuted with others saying it may come from dislodged deposits or filtered down from above. Too me that just sounds justification.
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Discussion #1339Talk Sense

11 Aug 2012 00:20:53
Just to add, I've been thinking of symbolism alot lately especially with the Olympics on and those floodlights. I was thinking if there was supposed to be a meaning that I perceived from the opening ceremony it showed alot of history ending with IMO the bright rings of fire possibly representing the elite leaving the land/earth or going up into the sky. (yes I know, probably reading into it far too much).

Supasub

 

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Discussion #1338Talk Sense

11 Aug 2012 00:15:22
Going of on a tangent a bit, but would anyone know how a deck of cards was invented and by who regarding its numbers and symbols? I read somewhere today that points out there is a reason why the Ace is higher than the King and it shows who's in charge.Then obviously i start thinking about the A symbol.
Just a thought........

Supasub {Ed001's Note - they were known in ancient China, so no one would be able to tell you who invented them. They could well have been ancient by the time of the Chinese.}

 

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Discussion #1337Talk Sense

10 Aug 2012 19:16:54
Ed have you heard of synarchy? i was reading something on it the other day after somebody mentioned Clive Prince and Lynn Pinknett, very interesting reading. Wondered what you thought of it.

{Ed033's Note - Is it the 2 books you're talking about. Don't know anything about it but it looks like someone knows a lot of the alternative info and has written about what could have really happened.

If this is correct then it is similar to the Dark Skies DVD series which is really good and possibly shows us using historical events what could have really happened between 1961 and 1967 in 20 hours. The more you know, the more you'll see in the DVD series

Dark Skies 1x01-1x02 "The Awakening" (1 of 10)

 

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