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Discussion #1324Talk Sense

07 Aug 2012 18:18:39
What do you think of this..... Swedish expedition found an object at the bottom of the baltic sea. Looks like the millenium falcon.
Sooty

Mysterious Object Found on Baltic Seafloor

 


{Ed033's Note - Here is an hour long radio interview with red ice radio with one of the divers who has touched the object

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2012/08/RIR-120805.php

 

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{Ed033's Note - Based on the limited info from the above red ice interview, my speculation at the moment is that it is a stone structure that was built many thousands of years ago
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Has there been anymore movement on this topic I think this is important a huge structure at the bottom of the sea could be ancient! Have the military or any orginization took over the area?

Jedimindtricks

{Ed033's Note - Divers are going down to take another look soon
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Discussion #1323Talk Sense

07 Aug 2012 15:59:50
Hi all,
not really a conspiracy as such but i was watching this programme about what would when the sun expands in billions of years time and at the end of the show, it showed the earth as a mars like planet with only the simpilest bacteria still living in a dry, water free planet.

It got me thinking that maybe this is what happened billions of years ago and that is why mars is like that now, why NASA think they discovered simple bacteria on the planet as they survived the sun expansion. What do you think guys?

jagjacob123

 

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Don't think that would have happened as expansion of the sun comes at the end of it's natural life cycle, Mars was more likley killed of by a large object hitting it

{Ed033's Note - This is most likely what happened to Mars - documentary by the electric universe crew of thunderbolts.info



The Lightning-Scarred Planet Mars - Part One


 


The Lightning-Scarred Planet Mars - Part Two


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I think it was Graham Hancocks book that postulated a metoer or comet impact that ripped the atmosphere away and caused the Tharsis bulge and Valle Marineris, but having watched the attached vids before its a good theory.

{Ed033's Note - Be interesting to ask Graham Hancock what he now thinks of the Wal Thornhill/David Talbot mars theory in the above videos. He obviously wrote the book years before this new info.
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Yes Ed thats a good point, i think that book was early 90's, i remember reading it around '97. Since then there's been lots of research and probes and stuff so would be interesting to see what he would make of that theory. In fairness it was a good theory and the most plausible one to me until i saw those 2 videos above.

{Ed033's Note - Yes, I read the book and seemed a good theory at the time
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Mars is too far away from the sun. Flesh would freeze.

Matt_RFC

{Ed033's Note - If you look at certain satellite images of Mars, it appears there is liquid water on Mars and plant life. That's what i'm saying.
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Currently reading sitchins, genesis revisited, explains how what the cameras and telescops are telling us now the sumerians knew millenia ago. "water above and below the firmament" , basically he postulates all planets seem to contain water in one form or another. he is also pretty keen on the 12th planet theory which totalled Tiamat ( earth ) ,ripped pluto from saturn amongst other things. good read :)
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Discussion #1322Talk Sense

07 Aug 2012 12:09:55
in a few weeks nasa will confirm there is life on mars,does this mean that there is going to be full disclosure.

 

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Where has this come from?
duggo
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Seen something about it on controversial tv, we are supposed get full disclosure with in 20 years?.

{Ed033's Note - The latest Mars rover called Curiosity has just landed on Mars and is equipped to find life on Mars. From earlier satellite pictures there appears to be liquid water and vegetation over certain parts of Mars.
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You mean like allotments.

{Ed033's Note - I mean like lakes and forests
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Lol at allotments. i can imagine my old fella there planting some cabbages and carrots.
huddz red {Ed001's Note - it would explain a thing or two if you were descended from Martians mate!!}
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One of saturns moons has water (liquid) on it but its made of methane, different gasses have different temps at which they turn to liquid and vapour like ours (h20) freezes at what we call 0 and turns to vapor at what we call 100 this is just a scale humans have made up, so if there is liquid there it doesnt mean that there is life in any form. I hope there is it would be amazing but the truth is earth is at a precise reletive distance from the sun for life to breed, look at the difference in temp in say Iceland an Ethiopia, and mars is millions of miles away not thousands.

Matt_RFC

{Ed033's Note - Isn't that a bit like saying bumble bees can't fly because they're too heavy? You maybe right but you're relying on what the main stream media/science and schooling system told you.
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Discussion #1321Talk Sense

07 Aug 2012 04:13:30
Hi ed, first time posting on the conspiracy site, but love reading it. Just a question on John Holmes father. Has anything surfaced about what his testimony would have brought to the libor scandal trial? I think it would have to be fairly substantial if the govt. are going to such lenghts to "stop" it being heard. Would really like to hear any information, thanks

GALWAY RED

{Ed033's Note - Firstly, the Libor scandal is much bigger than the average person thinks it is. More on James Holmes' father below

James Holmes' father, Robert Holmes - short bio

http://jamesholmeswiki.com/james-holmes-parents-robert/

James Holmes Father is senior scientist with FICO

 

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Wow ed if true that is shocking, adds fuel to the conspiracy theory. Would certainly make any stories reported on by mainstream news networks unbelievable in my book, the fact that this has not once been mentioned.

GALWAY RED

{Ed033's Note - This isn't the first time the main stream media have under-reported a news story and it won't be the last.
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Discussion #1320Talk Sense

06 Aug 2012 13:29:21
i was watching the film the bank job last night. Good film good cast. But something occurred to me. Firstly for those that haven't seen the film. MI5 find out a gangster has some compromising photo's of the princess royal and is using them as blackmail to avoid jail. So the spooks run a black op using a team of villains to break into the bank where the photo's are stored. In the end it all goes pear shaped and the villains do a handover of the photo's in return for passports and indemnity with the crown represented by Lord Mountbatten. Now my point is a lot of people involved in this seem to have died afterwards. Including two of the robbers. Now my point is as we all know Mountbatten was killed in the 70's by the IRA. But i wonder if thats how it really happened. I always thought the IRA had a policy of not hitting the royals and maybe something else went on there. Would be easy to blame the Irish or maybe get them to do it on behalf of the spooks. Ed's and regulars what do you think?

{Ed033's Note - This film, The Bank Job is based on a true story and yes they could blame IRA for anything just like they can blame Al Qaeda for anything.

 

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Fair point , but unlike Al quaida the IRA were real
and like it or not very efficient .

JR
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Al Qaeda are real. American CIA funded their start up and I beleive probably still manipulate them..........

Matt_RFC
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There's loads of conjecture about how "real" the IRA was. In the sense of bombings, many believe attacks were planned by MI5. Sounds crazy? As crazy as Martin McGuinness shaking hands with the Queen recently?!
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"Al-Qaida,(sic) literally 'the database,' was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians," admits former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook.
In other words, the so-called Al Qaeda, which has been promoted by the Media Cartel as the cause of all bombings and terrorism since the destruction of the World Trade Center in New York on September 11, 2001, is simply a database of CIA trained "terrorists" (or "freedom fighters," depending on your perspective) which has become a convenient Global Boogeyman for the 21st Century.
robin cook died in mysterious circumstances.

{Ed033's Note - allegedly Robin cook was given a heart attack (by agents using a device that induces a heart attack from a distance) on a walking holiday in scotland. The same allegedly happened to John Smith (Labour Leader) when he was on a walking holiday in Scotland because it was probable that John Smith would not have gone along with the things that Tony Blair (John Smith's successor) went along with.

It's now ridiculous that Al Qaeda are now hailed in the media as the "freedom fighters" against the "evil" leader in Syria, President Bashar al-Assad
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You tell the people of Manchester that the IRA are not real and see how hard you get slapped down
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Discussion #1319Talk Sense

06 Aug 2012 12:17:06
Eds do you believe the recent stories that Adolf Hitler escaped Berlin?

{Ed033's Note - it was rumoured for a long time that Hitler was allowed to escape and he ended up after the war in Argentina and died in the 1960's but now researchers have proven it beyond any reasonable doubt in my opinion. Dr. Joseph P. Farrell is also now saying Hitler escaped to Argentina.

The latest book on the subject is by Gerrard Williams spending 5 years with military historian Simon Dunstan researching the book, Grey Wolf – The Escape of Adolf Hitler. Read the book and make your own mind up.

New book claims Adolf Hitler escaped Berlin - Gerrard Williams brief interview on sky about his research

 

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In the same set of evidence, researchers have said they can prove Hitlers skull which is on diplay in russia is actually the skull of a woman. Its a big country with big boarders, it wouldnt have been hard for him to get out of the country with the right help if thats what happened

Matt_RFC
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Some of the evidence seems convincing would be interested in finding out more about this , but one question I have is why would people constantly lie about hitler being dead in this case , surely if the evidence is that good then they would want to hunt him down.

Real question I have is what do our governments stand to gain by havig us believe that hitler Died in that bunker ?
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Maybe the Uk mislead us of his death just to make the masses believe that justice was done what more could you ask for right? the man was gone it's over but now only to be dug up and disproved

Jedimindtricks
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Lets face it he could have gotten out. I did once read a book (fiction) whereby his plane blew up so Bormann just wheeled out a double (would love to find that book again, can't track it down anywhere.)


Basically he had doubles, course he did, Monty and Churchill both used doubles apparently, and i'm fairly sure Stalin did as well, so its a safe leap to make to assume he had his doubles as well. He survived a number of assassination attempts back in the 20's and 30's so would make sense to have a spare so to speak.

So he could have slipped out with the loot that was never recovered already sat waiting in a nice safe anonymous Swiss account that he could access from his nice shiny new South American home when he wasn't hobnobbing with the Peron's.

I'm guessing that when we realised this we didn't it to be known that he had got away as it wouldn't look good. Either that or we were complicit in his getaway which i don't have the stomach to contemplate.

{Ed033's Note - The german people lost the war not the Nazis. Probably a deal was made with the Nazis. Part of the deal could have been a loan for the rebuilding of Europe after the war under the Marshall plan.
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Maybe Ed but i'm not quite buying an economic deal. I could maybe see some sort of thing inhand with Operation Paperclip, safe passage in exchange for scientific and technical knowledge. But Given that we caught most of the top leadership like Himmler, Goering etc i doubt we'd let him go. More likely he just got away and left the rest hanging and we were too embarrassed to admit it. I can't see anyone being complicit in helping him get away. ok the Vatican yes but no one other than that, its a sickening thought.

{Ed033's Note - obviously there is more to this story. There are rumours that hitler's father or grandfather was a rothschild. Dr. Jospeh P. Farrell in his research states that the Nazis had a weapon nick named Die Glocke (the Bell) that was a more powerful weapon than the hydrogen bomb.

It appears that the Nazis were allowed to keep all the money they had looted during WWII and under Martin Bormann this was used to start 100s of companies after WWII.

It appears that a deal was made whereby the Nazis were allowed to do their "thing" and would be left alone.
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Discussion #1318Talk Sense

05 Aug 2012 20:17:05
What do ppl think of David Icke? just seen a few youtube clips from about him, he makes some sense!

{Ed033's Note - David Icke makes perfect sense to me. Unfortunately some people are so brainwashed by the media telling them how they should think about David Icke that they never read any of his books or watch any of his presentations to make up their own mind about him.

 

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I've never seen any of his stuff, but from media coverage etc. he seems like a total nutter for example when he said he was the son of god.

However I've seen and heard alot of well informed people referring to him so I'm guessing that the way he's portrayed isn't accurate at all.

Just goes to show how easily manipulated the public can be about things like this.

I'd be interested about finding out more about him maybe reading some stuff if anyone can recommend anything I'd appreciate it

{Ed033's Note - He never said, "I am the son of God" on Wogan. The obvious thing to do is read his latest book entitled, Human Race Get off Your Knees - The Lion Sleeps No More. You may be able to reserve a copy at your local library. Or type David Icke into the youtube search bar and watch a presentation or interview of his.

David Icke Interview June 18, 2012 - DNA, Royals and Iluminati History

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Icke's documentaries/talks are interesting viewing, he's a personable guy and a good speaker and a lot of his theories make sense.....not sure about the reptilian claims, but there you go.

Anyway my only problem with him, is this - he loves to talk about how most uninformed people believe everything the media feeds them without questioning, out of fear of being labelled 'weird' etc.

But he often ends a statement or something by saying that if you don't believe him, you're brainwashed and simply haven't seen the light yet.

Now, considering anyone giving Icke the time of day is likely an open-minded, inquisitive person - that kind of comment uses the same strategy that the mainstream media does. In other words, if you don't believe me, you're a sheep with no mind of your own.

I'd like to see how many Icke fans actually go away from his talks and research every point he makes......or do they simply believe him and do no more seeking? In which case, they're just as brainwashed as the masses!

RED_SKY
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For me, he tries to include too much in his conspiracy theories. The reptilian stuff is too far out for me (lunatic fringe?). I remember watching a series where Alex Jones says he's skeptical of David Icke and i agree.
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Discussion #1317Talk Sense

05 Aug 2012 18:31:30
any one know much about the princess diana incident? apparently the car what crashed wasnt the one we all saw smashed to buggery. a photographer took pictures and u can see it wasnt all cavedin the back like the other pictures we saw. and then some strange doctor just happened to be there. and the ambulance was stationary with her init for like 10 mins, what was they doing to her? BLUEBOY1

{Ed033's Note - Chris Everard made a documentary all about it called, Lady Die. It's on youtube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2dSXEZp9io

 

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Discussion #1316Talk Sense

04 Aug 2012 21:00:56
Has anyone seen this about the 'Batman' killer James Holmes. Look at the difference between the man that is allegedly James Holmes and the imposter that was sitting in the court. I think that the real James Holmes could be in a safe house being used as leverage against his father testifying in the US Senate

http://2.bp. /-SWF627YxsCc/UBCMxm7gWuI/AAAAAAAAPFw/wpTiY6Dcgl8/s1600/james+homes+transformation.jpg

 

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Possible Second Shooter in tragic Batman Denver Shooting Eyewitness Account

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10 problems with the official story showing conspiracy behind the Aurora Batman shooting

http://rense.com/general95/auroraconspt.html
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Discussion #1315Talk Sense

04 Aug 2012 19:12:30
Isn't it a bit wierd that some videos posted on this site are removed from youtube?

Ted

{Ed033's Note - There are multiple reasons for them being removed and one of them is that someone's trying to keep the lid on the truth

 

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What videos got removed?

{Ed033's Note - Youtube videos on youtube.com are removed for various reasons.
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Discussion #1314Talk Sense

01 Aug 2012 20:12:00
Alleged UFO Over London Olympics 2012

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2181066/Olympics-2012-UFO-sighted-Games-opening-ceremony.html

 

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Discussion #1313Talk Sense

01 Aug 2012 00:00:38
What's the opinions on this story about the alleged Batman cinema killer's father?

http://www.hangthebankers.com/batman-shooters-father-was-scheduled-to-testify-as-whistle-blower-to-senate-over-libor-scandal/

{Ed033's Note - This is just one of the fishy things about this case. The alleged shooter's father was to testify to the US senate about what he knew of the libor scandal

 

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Ed 033 great great site love it !

What is your view on the idea that the batman gunman was mind controlled by the CIA

CHELSEA 19/05 19 May

{Ed033's Note - We actually don't know whether there were in fact 2 gunmen and we don't actually know whether the guy with the red/orange hair, James Holmes was actually one of the gun men.

This seems to be a false flag government agency hit in my opinion. James Holmes could be a manchurian candidate, I don't know
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What is a manchurian candidate?
Adam

{Ed033's Note - a manchurian candidate is someone who has been mind controlled. If you watch James Holmes in court, he looked out of it
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What is the Libor scandal ed?
KiwiRed

{Ed033's Note -
Judge Napolitano explains the LIBOR Scandal and according to him it's one of the Largest Bank Orchestrated Frauds in History

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Cheers ed, that's very interesting if he is one.....nothing surprises me these days.

Adam
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